Line of Duty Mafia game - DAY 2

[TrafalgarLaw01]

@Charle: are you ready to lynch Kingm? Because scum will want to use its voting bloc untill the last moment by not voting / dividing the votes...hoping on a no lynch today....

And the fact it's between Traf and Kingm but no wagon riders appeared by now tells me scum is staying off the wagon sofar..

..and you and Traf are not voting and not really looking either i must say (not looking at all AND it's D2 for crying out loud! )...You guys are also the only ones with a claimed "character role name" (with only just 4 left to mention theirs - IF more then 2 of them have any!- because we are looking for 4 scums like 99%). Now at least your name combined to your PR is solid. The "Serving a letter" function is right up there with "Paper Trail" and "Hard Cover".. (it aligns with how the series depicts formal police procedures, warnings, or official notifications and that is to be expected from a mod who has his favorite series translated to a mafia werewolf game).

But Traf's claim is not. He claims just a simple town tracker PR but did not mention it's propper function name / police procedure name. Like LC could have named his action "CHIS handling"(Covert Human Intelligence Source) — Managing sources with strict protocols and records...or "Surveillance package" — Authorised covert monitoring (phones, bugs, tracking) that must follow strict rules to avoid "dirty" evidence...

It's a sloppy job of a fake claim.. not AC-12 standards at all.

So how do you feel on lynching Traf?

Also Reminder to all: we are looking for 4 bad cops (under the cover of being a good cop) so they will look "townish by role nature" i suppose. Hence a scum tracker for example.

By the way Charle: here is your summary play (all game long) until now:

U really are acting like an idiot. You think u know LC and how he thinks what he did and who he gave the roles to. If its not cause I like to win part of me would enjoy being lynched and then see what you make up of that when my role and name are revealed as I said they were

[SoN!c]

Acting like an idiot? For what? Ripping your tracker claim apart as sloppy/fake because it’s just generic “Tracker” with zero Line of Duty flavor or police-procedure name?

And fake with zero line of finding scum in your entire play sofar? Is that idiotic? Im not the idiot who said im only tracking because "last time as scum i got busted for fake claiming tracker and i didn’t want to risk another “faked tracker” blow-up like in my previous scum game.".[*]

Here is your idiot quote again:

I wanted to track Kingm cause I still think he is suspicious from his post D1… but last game when I was scum I got busted for faking a tracker… so I tracked Sonic instead to have safe proof ready.

And that line only exists because you saw the votes piling up fast and you needed to respond fast..

It sounds exactly like someone who knows how fake scum claims get caught and is trying to avoid the same mistake..

So yes, im absolutely torching your weak claim.

Charle’s “Serving a letter / moral compass” one-shot claim is dripping with actual Line of Duty / AC-12 procedure flavor.
You just say “Kate Fleming, Tracker” with zero extra police-procedure detail.

In a heavily themed game run by a LoD superfan (Loose Canon), this mismatch is a massive scum tell. Scum often give the bare-minimum generic claim because they didn’t get the real flavor in their PM. And that is exactly what you did.

Is it idiotic to do a deep flavor meta analysis — exactly the kind of thing a motivated town player does when the mod is a huge Line of Duty fan..?

Because im just connecting the dots, pushing for a decision on D2, and explicitly calling out scum behaviour (wagon avoidance + hoping for no-lynch).


Compare that to your play:

Purely defensive and insulting (“acting like an idiot”) instead of addressing the flavor criticism..
The “I’d enjoy being lynched so you look stupid when my role flips” line is a classic defensive tell — it doesn’t counter the actual point and sounds just like someone hoping the lynch doesn’t happen..Another extremely common scum deflection — designed to make some town hesitate (“what if he’s town and we look stupid?”) without actually countering any points..

Then there is your acting "away" the entire game but when 4 votes piled up (in an instant) you were here superfast and now again.. That does not match the idea your trying to sell to town ("beïng busy - can't follow up").


*(Huge scum tell!).

[SoN!c]

Kingm’s suspicion is real (that D1 play left a mark but in the end what do we have really besides classic over-eager/clumsy town wording + defensive backpedal) compared to the multi-layered scum pattern Traf is showing:

We have already 4 clear scum tells on Traf (based on his play):

1) Admitted “safe insurance” tracking — He openly said he wanted to track Kingm (his actual D1 suspect) but chose me instead purely to generate a low-risk, mutually confirmable result in case he got pressured later...He even referenced getting caught faking a tracker as scum in a previous game WIFOM style.. This is one of the cleanest scum tells possible for a claimed Tracker: the action wasn’t investigative; it was defensive self-preservation. That is not town play, that is scum play.

2) Flavorless claim in a theme-heavy game — “Kate Fleming, Tracker” with zero AC-12 / Line of Duty procedural detail. Charle’s one-shot had clear “Serving a letter / moral compass” flavor that fit the mod’s style perfectly. Im "Hard Cover", Dev was "Paper Trail".. Traf never tried to flavor his claim up or tie it to undercover work. In a Loose Canon game (LoD fan), this bare-minimum claim is a big red flag. It feels like Traf was hoping mentioning the Kate Fleming name would be enough.

Notice the big difference: Charle says Im Ted Hastings - I am the "Moral Compass" (and the "Moral Compass" "served the letter)". Traf just says "Im Kate Fleming, tracker"..

Mind you, This comes from the only 2 players who have sofar claimed to have received a role name....watch the big difference: Im Ted Hasting - I am the "Moral Compass", Im Kate Fleming, tracker...

3) Pressure response — When i torched his claim, Traf went straight to insults (“acting like an idiot”), defensiveness, and the classic “part of me would enjoy being lynched so you look stupid when I flip” line. That doesn’t counter any points — it just tries to plant hesitation and sounds like someone hoping the wagon doesn’t land because they can't counter with actual answers.

4) Scum Activity Pattern — Semi-ghosting almost the entire time, staying off wagons, not voting, but appearing instantly when needed to defend. This fits scum monitoring the thread closely while trying not to commit..And, If Traf is town why hasn't he placed a vote by now? Like a vote on Kingm for example?

Kingm can wait — his baggage isn’t going anywhere. And it doesn’t have the multi-layered mechanical + flavor + behavioral problems Traf does.

Let me nail the contrast again:

Charle: “I’m Ted Hastings I am the ‘Moral Compass’ (and the ‘Moral Compass’ "served the letter")” — full dynamic flavor that matches Line of Duty 100%.

Traf: “I’m Kate Fleming, tracker.”

Only two players have dropped full character names… and one is dripping with real AC-12 procedure while the other is a generic cop-out. .
This is the kind of mismatch scum make when their PM doesn’t give them the live flavor text.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Let me nail the contrast again:

Charle: “I’m Ted Hastings I am the ‘Moral Compass’ (and the ‘Moral Compass’ "served the letter")” — full dynamic flavor that matches Line of Duty 100%.

Traf: “I’m Kate Fleming, tracker.”

Only two players have dropped full character names… and one is dripping with real AC-12 procedure while the other is a generic cop-out. .
This is the kind of mismatch scum make when their PM doesn’t give them the live flavor text.

Im the Kate Fleming - The undercover - Tracker.
Justo cause I didnt add that when I claim doesnt mean anything
But again I have showed why what u said Made no sense. But whatever

[hjelp]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

[annieh]

I can support a Traf vote. I think there are more answers to be found there than with voting Kingm.


UNVOTE

VOTE TrafalgarLaw01

[SoN!c]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

Too funny!

And let me make the case on Traf even more incriminating. Just give me a bit of time to line it up nicely in bubble wrap.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Lol, ok, I'm done with this shit. Do what you guys want. Don't really have the energy to fight stupidity, but if I'm lynched and I'm right (Which I will be Sonic. u have to amke at least a 2000 word post sayign how wrong you were and how playing but your own headcannon doesn t help tonw never)

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Forgot to add and hope you learn for Future games

[TrafalgarLaw01]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

That's the character that LC gave me. Sonic was saying that I just said name and abilitie. So I said all that LC posted. Could have made something else or say it just said that. But I have been honest with my role. But you guys follow Sonic Logic. just cause he is towen confirmed doent mean he ahs an idea of what is going on the game

[SoN!c]

“BREAKING: TrafalgarLaw01 Caught Red-Handed Recycling Old Godfather Script – ‘Last Game When I Was Scum’ Becomes Self-Own of the Year”

So ya'll remeber the D2 early comment by Traf on Devante?

This is Traf's early D2 comment (mafia godfather) in Vincent Vega :

Hmmm interesting.

Well Firefighter that is not the worst role to lose as town as the arsonist can also burn mafia and mostlikely would have not got any info, so not bad night overall...spacially cause there was jsut 1 dead, that means that the arsonist did not get a kill so either he decided not to move, which does not make much sense as a 3P would like to get player count low asap or he was blocked (Maybe the Jailkeeper). Not sure if there are other roles that block actions in this setting.

If you switch "Firefighter" with "Trail Paper" we have an almost identical answer...


Then Traf fake claimed town tracker (reporter) when he got to 4 votes... do you remember Traf's claim "Kate Fleming, tracker" came at exactly 4 votes?

Quoting Charle here from the Vega game (as that is a nice summary on the 4 votes and fake claim following:

I also don't buy Traf's claim.

1. Why visit Max when you already confirmed that he is most likely town? Very easy to say he didn't move because it is the only person that actually mentioned he did not use his PR.

So we can now be sure Max is not the 3P and I'd say that it's most likely town

2. I have difficulty to line-up reporter with the roles Mod gave us at start of game.

Vote Traf

Ok, I was staying quiet to see what else eveyone else were thinking.

But now there are 4 votes on me. I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town.

Do you guys remember Traf here saying "i'll see what happens" : it's again almost a copy paste from this line "But now there are 4 votes on me. I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town."

Here he said :

"Ok, Catching up busy weekend and Monday. I'm still have to read drom this post onward.
But you have asked twice.

So I guess you have any kind of info. I don't know how much I want to reveal. But I indeed went somewhere last night.

Will finish reading see if something else is important or if I need to say more

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Ok, finished reading and Now I have 4 votes. Lol. I'm town. i did an action last night, but not sure it's worth sharing, but I'll see what happens

He did not want to say anything really. "I don't know how much I want to reveal." "Lol im town" (LoD)
vs
"I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town." (Vegas)


100% Identical structure:

“I was staying quiet / catching up / busy”
Reluctance to reveal (“would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it” vs “I don't know how much I want to reveal” / “not sure it's worth sharing”)
Only drops the claim exactly when votes hit 4
Casual “Lol I’m town” / minimal confirmation

Also notice the same mismatch in flavor "I have difficulty to line-up reporter with the roles Mod gave us at start of game" and Traf tracking the wrong scum target (like he should have tracked Kingm on N1 and his flavor does not match Charle's "Moral Compas").

I'll quote Ragian on the wrong track target from the Vega game as this gets the essence nicely:

If I were Traf, I would've checked Charle. Just saying.

Well i thought about that. But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a person that has confessed his role. and porbably if Charle is mafia he would expect that and sent his partner to make the kill while staying quiet

"Well i thought about that..""" But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a person that has confessed his role.". If you switch that answer with what he said here "i tought about that but.." you can almost fill in the exact sentence yourself from memory because here he said "But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a vanilla person and would not be able to proof it"....


Traf repeated the exact same playbook from Vega when he was the mafia godfather:
Chose a safe, low-risk target he already leaned town on.
Gave a minimal, generic claim that doesn’t match the rich thematic flavor of Loose Canon's LoD.
Crumbled into emotional deflection "idiot" and a “dare the lynch” line when torched ( poor pressure handling).
Nothing but defensive fake-investigative play with weak justification
Argued that lynching him wouldn’t lose much for town but also wouldn’t gain much (self-preservation framing) like he did here too.

In short:
Defensive, low-risk investigative action instead of real hunting.
Bare claim in a flavor-rich environment.
Emotional/deflective reaction under heat.
Passive until pressured.

Trafs pattern isn’t a one-off clumsy town moment like Kingm could be — it’s a consistent scum pattern across games when he’s on the wrong side.

[SoN!c]

If I were Traf, I would've checked Kingm. Just saying.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Also Rag should admit he played bad. he ahd no way of knowing I was tracker. but forcing all the info out didnt help much, cause much was already given. But just made thing clearer for mafia.

IMO best way to play as tracker is stay quietd 2 or 3 days gather info and see if anyone slips up or bringing it up when it is most valuable.

[annieh]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

That's the character that LC gave me. Sonic was saying that I just said name and abilitie. So I said all that LC posted. Could have made something else or say it just said that. But I have been honest with my role. But you guys follow Sonic Logic. just cause he is towen confirmed doent mean he ahs an idea of what is going on the game

We have very little to go on, Sonic is at least bringing ideas.

Do you have a better idea for a lynch or other suspicions of your own? Or you think going into night 2 with no lynch is a good plan for the town?

The questions aren't just for Traf.

[SoN!c]

Traf, you’re going to have to admit this looks superscummy from where Town is sitting.

I dropped a very strong meta case on you exposing your exact playbook from the Vincent Vega game, where you were the Mafia Godfather. Same reluctant timing at 4 votes, same safe-target “investigative” claim, same defensive framing, and almost identical explanations and statements. How exactly are we supposed to believe you now?

Calling this meta case “idiotic” is itself idiotic.

We’re deep into Day 2 and you still haven’t offered a single lynch proposal or alternative suspicion.. Do you actually think a no-lynch on Day 2 favors Town?

Right now you remain the clear leading lynch candidate unless a better wagon develops quickly — your call.

Scum usually prefer low-activity or “wait-and-see” until they have better cover, so what are your ideas on that?

If you’re really Town, then everything about your role is already in the open. No need to hide any longer. It’s in your best interest to come up with valid theories ASAP. Do you finally propose a lynch with good reasons, or do you just keep deflecting? Because with the zombies we need high-aggression Day 2 play.

[Ragian]

asking what other think

What are you hoping to achieve?

If there were two attempts kill or only one.
I'm trying to sort it out but it's not enough facts. Can it be a 3P in this game?

Just an odd line of inquiry with everything happening.

@Traf, I'll admit to playing poorly with what I've been dealt by you if you indeed flip town, but you've resorted to name-calling now, and surely it must stick to you that a proven town player and some of the players that are considered town by the proven town player are on your case?

I'm on holiday and on phone these days. I'll try to check in. I think we must lynch today, and right now Traf looks like the only target. Steer us elsewhere with a case, Træf. Where do we look?

[hjelp]

Also Rag should admit he played bad. he ahd no way of knowing I was tracker. but forcing all the info out didnt help much, cause much was already given. But just made thing clearer for mafia.

IMO best way to play as tracker is stay quietd 2 or 3 days gather info and see if anyone slips up or bringing it up when it is most valuable.

Elaborate please.

[SoN!c]

Also Traf, you now claim that you posted your role exactly like LC gave it to you (corrected version as you now claim to just "forgot" to mention your nick "Undercover" like im "Hard Cover", Dev was "Paper Trail" and Charle is "Moral Compass" but:

"Im the Kate Fleming - The undercover - Tracker."

This is so wrong because LC would just say "Undercover" but never "The Undercover".

(If we send the kings grammar prosecutor to Kingm for saying "let's all" then that prefix "the" qualifies even more).

And more bells ringing when you have to notice that the PR i got (2 shot bodyguard) is never mentioned in my role pm like yours is by "tracker".

This is all very flimsy yes but you must know that there is only one chance to claim correctly.. you can't keep correcting. Town doesn’t usually need to keep fixing their role PM.

And the big elephant here is that your job description "Undercover" does not match your tracker role in the way "Hard cover", Moral Compass", "Paper Trail" all match the PR perfectly . "Undercover" does not match a simple tracker. Its the odd man out.

So its time for a full-claim. How many tracker shots do you have and what is your (extra?) "undercover" ability exactly?

Because your "undercover" claim is even worse. Because why would you claim to be "Undercover" when your town?. Like a town Kong would lie in that situation - never to expose his "Undercover" ability because "undercover" implies an undercover PR..

For example: "going undercover" by Infiltrating enemy chat... You could request the mafia night chat at a certain night for example.

You are "Undercover", You are kate Fleming, a trained operative who has gone deep undercover inside the mafia bent coppers organisation.

You have a 2 shot tracker Night Ability + 1 shot "Deep Infiltration” (usable every night)

Deep Infiltration :
You silently join the mafia chat for that single night only.
You hear everything they say and plan.
They do not know you are there (you will receive the full chat history of that night in the morning)


But if you have that ability then it's stupid to claim your "Undercover".. If your town Mafia would be terrified if someone is listening. And that is what "Undercover" means.

A "Tracker" is just a simple tracking device the police use. It has nothing to do with "going undercover".

[SoN!c]

And to all: those of you who stay very quiet are to be considered a potential hiding spot for scum.

[Ragian]

I defo agree with the last bit. I don't like how King, Kong, Homer, New Dev and Strike (and all of those I've forgotten that are playing) seem to be whistling while looking up in the air.

[annieh]

Here's an idea, tell me what you think:

Everyone has 36 hours to comment with an unofficial vote and their reasoning...
Don't use bold or red, whichever makes it official, just get a "vote" in...
The prize if you do is nobody will vote for you for real.

(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)

[TrafalgarLaw01]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

That's the character that LC gave me. Sonic was saying that I just said name and abilitie. So I said all that LC posted. Could have made something else or say it just said that. But I have been honest with my role. But you guys follow Sonic Logic. just cause he is towen confirmed doent mean he ahs an idea of what is going on the game

We have very little to go on, Sonic is at least bringing ideas.

Do you have a better idea for a lynch or other suspicions of your own? Or you think going into night 2 with no lynch is a good plan for the town?

The questions aren't just for Traf.

I would vote Kingm tbh. And I don't think Sonic is bringing anything to the table, just confusing town

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Also Traf, you now claim that you posted your role exactly like LC gave it to you (corrected version as you now claim to just "forgot" to mention your nick "Undercover" like im "Hard Cover", Dev was "Paper Trail" and Charle is "Moral Compass" but:

"Im the Kate Fleming - The undercover - Tracker."

This is so wrong because LC would just say "Undercover" but never "The Undercover".

Again you act as if you know how LC do thing if I'm lynched I'm really waiting for your post apologizing, admitting you don't know anything and that you play by headcannon. And hopefully change for furure games

[SoN!c]

Totaly safe :
Charle : Solid flavor claim ("Ted Hastings – Moral Compass") served the letter, matches mod style with no counter claim, Annieh + Ragian (both are here trying to solve this for town).

Fairly safe:
Hjelp: Asking questions, neutral.
Strike and Kong: Quiet but clean so far. They need to vote however or they become supersus because a no-lynch would be very bad for Town with 4 scum left (the voting math becomes brutal soon).


Lynch Candidates:

1) My unoffcial and official vote (top candidate) is Traf

His claim still feels off: “Kate Fleming - The Undercover - Tracker” comes across as a generic tracker with an awkward “The Undercover” label that doesn’t match the clean procedural flavor of the other claims we’ve seen (Hard Cover, Moral Compass, Paper Trail).

Red flags still adding up:

He had to correct his claim mid-pressure (“forgot” to include the Undercover part).
Tracked me instead of pressing his earlier D1 suspect (Kingm) — looks like low-risk self-preservation (claims it was just “collecting self-preservation proof”).

Over-defensive emotional reactions and still no real answers to the direct questions or even a counter-case on somebody else.

When there’s only one case on him, a Townie fights back with arguments, not deflection..

The entire pattern is a superclose match to his previous Godfather game where a flavor-mismatched tracker claim got him exposed as scum.

This isn’t “just feelings” — it’s multiple observable tells..

If he’s Town, he should drop the silly defensiveness right now, give a full detailed claim (exact how many tracker shots left, any extra “Undercover” ability if it exists?, etc.), and start building a case on someone else instead of self-pity.


@TrafalgarLaw01 — Building a meta case is literally the game man. Writing 200 words im sorry? Look at you, marinating in self pity instead of giving arguments .. Charle spotted the exact same flavor mismatch in the Vega game and then you got busted for faking a tracker.. Answer the questions and give us your top scum targets + reasoning. Is that so hard to do when you claim to be town?


2) The "too quiet" types: Homer and DJfireside. Very (ultra) low posting volume in a high-stakes Day 2 thread is a classic scum tell (hiding while vocal Townies fight).

3) Kingm: for his D1 melt down under pressure; If Traf flips scum, Kingm becomes the natural next suspect because the short self-distancing vote he placed on Traf D1.


Mod kill material:
Cod and Cofari

[SoN!c]

And Traf: if you flip town somehow its because you handled yourself very badly under pressure - with very poor town play. So you can only blame yourself and it will be you who will need to write those 200 words..

Because past all your defensive play even you must recognize seeing the exact meta match of your godfather play in Vega compared to LoD. You might wanna comment that?

If your town, You have one week to set things right.