Line of Duty Mafia game - DAY 2

[TrafalgarLaw01]

@Charle: are you ready to lynch Kingm? Because scum will want to use its voting bloc untill the last moment by not voting / dividing the votes...hoping on a no lynch today....

And the fact it's between Traf and Kingm but no wagon riders appeared by now tells me scum is staying off the wagon sofar..

..and you and Traf are not voting and not really looking either i must say (not looking at all AND it's D2 for crying out loud! )...You guys are also the only ones with a claimed "character role name" (with only just 4 left to mention theirs - IF more then 2 of them have any!- because we are looking for 4 scums like 99%). Now at least your name combined to your PR is solid. The "Serving a letter" function is right up there with "Paper Trail" and "Hard Cover".. (it aligns with how the series depicts formal police procedures, warnings, or official notifications and that is to be expected from a mod who has his favorite series translated to a mafia werewolf game).

But Traf's claim is not. He claims just a simple town tracker PR but did not mention it's propper function name / police procedure name. Like LC could have named his action "CHIS handling"(Covert Human Intelligence Source) — Managing sources with strict protocols and records...or "Surveillance package" — Authorised covert monitoring (phones, bugs, tracking) that must follow strict rules to avoid "dirty" evidence...

It's a sloppy job of a fake claim.. not AC-12 standards at all.

So how do you feel on lynching Traf?

Also Reminder to all: we are looking for 4 bad cops (under the cover of being a good cop) so they will look "townish by role nature" i suppose. Hence a scum tracker for example.

By the way Charle: here is your summary play (all game long) until now:

U really are acting like an idiot. You think u know LC and how he thinks what he did and who he gave the roles to. If its not cause I like to win part of me would enjoy being lynched and then see what you make up of that when my role and name are revealed as I said they were

[SoN!c]

Acting like an idiot? For what? Ripping your tracker claim apart as sloppy/fake because it’s just generic “Tracker” with zero Line of Duty flavor or police-procedure name?

And fake with zero line of finding scum in your entire play sofar? Is that idiotic? Im not the idiot who said im only tracking because "last time as scum i got busted for fake claiming tracker and i didn’t want to risk another “faked tracker” blow-up like in my previous scum game.".[*]

Here is your idiot quote again:

I wanted to track Kingm cause I still think he is suspicious from his post D1… but last game when I was scum I got busted for faking a tracker… so I tracked Sonic instead to have safe proof ready.

And that line only exists because you saw the votes piling up fast and you needed to respond fast..

It sounds exactly like someone who knows how fake scum claims get caught and is trying to avoid the same mistake..

So yes, im absolutely torching your weak claim.

Charle’s “Serving a letter / moral compass” one-shot claim is dripping with actual Line of Duty / AC-12 procedure flavor.
You just say “Kate Fleming, Tracker” with zero extra police-procedure detail.

In a heavily themed game run by a LoD superfan (Loose Canon), this mismatch is a massive scum tell. Scum often give the bare-minimum generic claim because they didn’t get the real flavor in their PM. And that is exactly what you did.

Is it idiotic to do a deep flavor meta analysis — exactly the kind of thing a motivated town player does when the mod is a huge Line of Duty fan..?

Because im just connecting the dots, pushing for a decision on D2, and explicitly calling out scum behaviour (wagon avoidance + hoping for no-lynch).


Compare that to your play:

Purely defensive and insulting (“acting like an idiot”) instead of addressing the flavor criticism..
The “I’d enjoy being lynched so you look stupid when my role flips” line is a classic defensive tell — it doesn’t counter the actual point and sounds just like someone hoping the lynch doesn’t happen..Another extremely common scum deflection — designed to make some town hesitate (“what if he’s town and we look stupid?”) without actually countering any points..

Then there is your acting "away" the entire game but when 4 votes piled up (in an instant) you were here superfast and now again.. That does not match the idea your trying to sell to town ("beïng busy - can't follow up").


*(Huge scum tell!).

[SoN!c]

Kingm’s suspicion is real (that D1 play left a mark but in the end what do we have really besides classic over-eager/clumsy town wording + defensive backpedal) compared to the multi-layered scum pattern Traf is showing:

We have already 4 clear scum tells on Traf (based on his play):

1) Admitted “safe insurance” tracking — He openly said he wanted to track Kingm (his actual D1 suspect) but chose me instead purely to generate a low-risk, mutually confirmable result in case he got pressured later...He even referenced getting caught faking a tracker as scum in a previous game WIFOM style.. This is one of the cleanest scum tells possible for a claimed Tracker: the action wasn’t investigative; it was defensive self-preservation. That is not town play, that is scum play.

2) Flavorless claim in a theme-heavy game — “Kate Fleming, Tracker” with zero AC-12 / Line of Duty procedural detail. Charle’s one-shot had clear “Serving a letter / moral compass” flavor that fit the mod’s style perfectly. Im "Hard Cover", Dev was "Paper Trail".. Traf never tried to flavor his claim up or tie it to undercover work. In a Loose Canon game (LoD fan), this bare-minimum claim is a big red flag. It feels like Traf was hoping mentioning the Kate Fleming name would be enough.

Notice the big difference: Charle says Im Ted Hastings - I am the "Moral Compass" (and the "Moral Compass" "served the letter)". Traf just says "Im Kate Fleming, tracker"..

Mind you, This comes from the only 2 players who have sofar claimed to have received a role name....watch the big difference: Im Ted Hasting - I am the "Moral Compass", Im Kate Fleming, tracker...

3) Pressure response — When i torched his claim, Traf went straight to insults (“acting like an idiot”), defensiveness, and the classic “part of me would enjoy being lynched so you look stupid when I flip” line. That doesn’t counter any points — it just tries to plant hesitation and sounds like someone hoping the wagon doesn’t land because they can't counter with actual answers.

4) Scum Activity Pattern — Semi-ghosting almost the entire time, staying off wagons, not voting, but appearing instantly when needed to defend. This fits scum monitoring the thread closely while trying not to commit..And, If Traf is town why hasn't he placed a vote by now? Like a vote on Kingm for example?

Kingm can wait — his baggage isn’t going anywhere. And it doesn’t have the multi-layered mechanical + flavor + behavioral problems Traf does.

Let me nail the contrast again:

Charle: “I’m Ted Hastings I am the ‘Moral Compass’ (and the ‘Moral Compass’ "served the letter")” — full dynamic flavor that matches Line of Duty 100%.

Traf: “I’m Kate Fleming, tracker.”

Only two players have dropped full character names… and one is dripping with real AC-12 procedure while the other is a generic cop-out. .
This is the kind of mismatch scum make when their PM doesn’t give them the live flavor text.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Let me nail the contrast again:

Charle: “I’m Ted Hastings I am the ‘Moral Compass’ (and the ‘Moral Compass’ "served the letter")” — full dynamic flavor that matches Line of Duty 100%.

Traf: “I’m Kate Fleming, tracker.”

Only two players have dropped full character names… and one is dripping with real AC-12 procedure while the other is a generic cop-out. .
This is the kind of mismatch scum make when their PM doesn’t give them the live flavor text.

Im the Kate Fleming - The undercover - Tracker.
Justo cause I didnt add that when I claim doesnt mean anything
But again I have showed why what u said Made no sense. But whatever

[hjelp]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

[annieh]

I can support a Traf vote. I think there are more answers to be found there than with voting Kingm.


UNVOTE

VOTE TrafalgarLaw01

[SoN!c]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

Too funny!

And let me make the case on Traf even more incriminating. Just give me a bit of time to line it up nicely in bubble wrap.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Lol, ok, I'm done with this shit. Do what you guys want. Don't really have the energy to fight stupidity, but if I'm lynched and I'm right (Which I will be Sonic. u have to amke at least a 2000 word post sayign how wrong you were and how playing but your own headcannon doesn t help tonw never)

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Forgot to add and hope you learn for Future games

[TrafalgarLaw01]

So then as undercover - you just "blew up" your cover? revealing to the scum that you're not one of them?

That's the character that LC gave me. Sonic was saying that I just said name and abilitie. So I said all that LC posted. Could have made something else or say it just said that. But I have been honest with my role. But you guys follow Sonic Logic. just cause he is towen confirmed doent mean he ahs an idea of what is going on the game

[SoN!c]

“BREAKING: TrafalgarLaw01 Caught Red-Handed Recycling Old Godfather Script – ‘Last Game When I Was Scum’ Becomes Self-Own of the Year”

So ya'll remeber the D2 early comment by Traf on Devante?

This is Traf's early D2 comment (mafia godfather) in Vincent Vega :

Hmmm interesting.

Well Firefighter that is not the worst role to lose as town as the arsonist can also burn mafia and mostlikely would have not got any info, so not bad night overall...spacially cause there was jsut 1 dead, that means that the arsonist did not get a kill so either he decided not to move, which does not make much sense as a 3P would like to get player count low asap or he was blocked (Maybe the Jailkeeper). Not sure if there are other roles that block actions in this setting.

If you switch "Firefighter" with "Trail Paper" we have an almost identical answer...


Then Traf fake claimed town tracker (reporter) when he got to 4 votes... do you remember Traf's claim "Kate Fleming, tracker" came at exactly 4 votes?

Quoting Charle here from the Vega game (as that is a nice summary on the 4 votes and fake claim following:

I also don't buy Traf's claim.

1. Why visit Max when you already confirmed that he is most likely town? Very easy to say he didn't move because it is the only person that actually mentioned he did not use his PR.

So we can now be sure Max is not the 3P and I'd say that it's most likely town

2. I have difficulty to line-up reporter with the roles Mod gave us at start of game.

Vote Traf

Ok, I was staying quiet to see what else eveyone else were thinking.

But now there are 4 votes on me. I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town.

Do you guys remember Traf here saying "i'll see what happens" : it's again almost a copy paste from this line "But now there are 4 votes on me. I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town."

Here he said :

"Ok, Catching up busy weekend and Monday. I'm still have to read drom this post onward.
But you have asked twice.

So I guess you have any kind of info. I don't know how much I want to reveal. But I indeed went somewhere last night.

Will finish reading see if something else is important or if I need to say more

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Ok, finished reading and Now I have 4 votes. Lol. I'm town. i did an action last night, but not sure it's worth sharing, but I'll see what happens

He did not want to say anything really. "I don't know how much I want to reveal." "Lol im town" (LoD)
vs
"I would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it. but I will say I'm town." (Vegas)


100% Identical structure:

“I was staying quiet / catching up / busy”
Reluctance to reveal (“would not like to make a full claim yet if I can avoid it” vs “I don't know how much I want to reveal” / “not sure it's worth sharing”)
Only drops the claim exactly when votes hit 4
Casual “Lol I’m town” / minimal confirmation

Also notice the same mismatch in flavor "I have difficulty to line-up reporter with the roles Mod gave us at start of game" and Traf tracking the wrong scum target (like he should have tracked Kingm on N1 and his flavor does not match Charle's "Moral Compas").

I'll quote Ragian on the wrong track target from the Vega game as this gets the essence nicely:

If I were Traf, I would've checked Charle. Just saying.

Well i thought about that. But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a person that has confessed his role. and porbably if Charle is mafia he would expect that and sent his partner to make the kill while staying quiet

"Well i thought about that..""" But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a person that has confessed his role.". If you switch that answer with what he said here "i tought about that but.." you can almost fill in the exact sentence yourself from memory because here he said "But then I would have been accused again of checking the role of a vanilla person and would not be able to proof it"....


Traf repeated the exact same playbook from Vega when he was the mafia godfather:
Chose a safe, low-risk target he already leaned town on.
Gave a minimal, generic claim that doesn’t match the rich thematic flavor of Loose Canon's LoD.
Crumbled into emotional deflection "idiot" and a “dare the lynch” line when torched ( poor pressure handling).
Nothing but defensive fake-investigative play with weak justification
Argued that lynching him wouldn’t lose much for town but also wouldn’t gain much (self-preservation framing) like he did here too.

In short:
Defensive, low-risk investigative action instead of real hunting.
Bare claim in a flavor-rich environment.
Emotional/deflective reaction under heat.
Passive until pressured.

Trafs pattern isn’t a one-off clumsy town moment like Kingm could be — it’s a consistent scum pattern across games when he’s on the wrong side.

[SoN!c]

If I were Traf, I would've checked Kingm. Just saying.