Clean Energy, a scam, a joke....

[ConfederateSS]

-------------------You see the old windmills in Western movies, used to pump water, etc...

--------------------------THERE IS NOW A T.V. COMMERCIAL FOR SOLAR PANEL/POWER LAW/LAWYERS...TO GET OUT OF SOLAR CONTRACTS....
-------------------------- A gas(natural) powered generator ...Costs about $15,000 to hook up.....For Power outages.....
----------------------------I know someone in Middle Michigan, Between Detroit,and Lansing.....In the country....Not a bunch of small Solar Panels...BUT ONE LARGE SHEET SOLAR PANEL....Plus, A Storage Battery(Wall)........$75,000..........
---------------------------With rules and regulations...CODES....In THE U.S.A...Even with Tax Credits....Which are expiring at The End of this year.....
-------------------------- The SOLAR CONTRACTS ARE HORRIBLE.........
-------------------------- IT IS HARD TO SELL A HOUSE THAT HAS HAD SOLAR PANELS INSTALLED.......
--------------------------- LEASE or PPA transfers.......THE BUYER of a House....has to take them on....
--------------------------- UCC LIENS and Financing Delays...
--------------------------- Appraisal and Agent Hesitation...
--------------------------- Roof and Maintenance Concerns...
--------------------------- Outdated Technology........Solar Panels that are 15 to 20 years old...Are reaching the end of their use...

-------------------------- GAS and COAL BABY ...The WAY to Be.........I say....screw generators to......When there was a Power Outage....We would keep the FRIDGE closed........Lite some candles......At night......Play board games....R.I.S.K.......Tell Ghost Stories.....FAMILY FUN........PEOPLE NOW A DAYS SUCK...THEY CRY, THE POWER IS OUT.........BOOO...WHOOOOOO.... .......They don't know how to do anything ....
-------------------------- When TRUMP was having weather problems.in D.C. for his Firework show.......
--------------------------Here in Detroit we had bad weather.........In a couple of Suburbs....Allen Park, Southgate,MI.....A 16 year old , his parents were away....He put a gas powered generator in the house.......Another kid, had a generator in the garage,(that connects to the house,near were he was).......With the DOOR CLOSED........BOTH DIED...from the fumes... ....
-------------------------- WHO IS RAISING THESE KIDS???..........WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH TODAY'S AMERICA........DAMN.....THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.....People worry to much on their electrical crap...PHONES.... ....BLAH,BLAH.........
-------------------------- GIVE ME 4 days without Power......THE FAMILY FUN.....SCREW ALL THE ..."OH! MY GOD , THE POWERS OUT!!!".............. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

We're looking into solar power to supply an air conditioning unit. We'll need it due to increased temperatures caused by climate change.

[ConfederateSS]

----------Other countries have better layouts.....AMERICAN Government red tape......GREEDY....Solar Panel...Installers .......
--------------------ALASKA has enough OIL...to supply THE WORLD.....FOR 400 YEARS.....
------------------------COLD in The Winter.....HOT in THE SUMMER......IN MICHIGAN, USA ........THE GREAT THING ABOUT LIVING IN THE GREAT LAKE STATE...
-------------------------- IS IT HAS 20% of THE WORLD'S FRESH WATER .......I'll take the water.....Screw...A.C....Just make a paper fan....Sit back with some Lemonade .... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Oh hey, another tinfoil hat thread by our village idiot. Yay.

[riskllama]

DDS wins this thread.

[jusplay4fun]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

CO2 does not destroy the ozone layer; that was done by CFCs and that issue was regulated and dealt with by the Montreal Protocols.

AI Summary:

Montreal Protocol

Focuses on phasing out substances that deplete the ozone layer, such as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).

It has been largely successful and is legally binding, leading to significant reductions in ozone-depleting substances

[jimboston]

Oh hey, another tinfoil hat thread by our village idiot. Yay.

+1

[jimboston]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

Are you trying to debate Confed?

[Apatheist]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

Are you trying to debate Confed?

Not debate necessarily, just correct where necessary.

[jimboston]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

Are you trying to debate Confed?

Not debate necessarily, just correct where necessary.

He’s not capable of understanding most conflicting points, and those he does understand he just dismisses out-of-hand.

[jusplay4fun]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

Are you trying to debate Confed?

Not debate necessarily, just correct where necessary.

I made my correction. CO2 does not impact the ozone layer, at least not to the extent that CFCs do.

The best HOPE and possible reality for Clean Energy is nuclear Fusion.

[Apatheist]

If the use of oil continues to increase and destroy the ozone layer, we won't be around for 400 years.

Are you trying to debate Confed?

Not debate necessarily, just correct where necessary.

I made my correction. CO2 does not impact the ozone layer, at least not to the extent that CFCs do.

The best HOPE and possible reality for Clean Energy is nuclear Fusion.

Agreed, my mistake.
Carbon dioxide (CO₂) traps heat in Earth's atmosphere by absorbing infrared radiation radiating from the surface. It acts like an insulating blanket, re-radiating heat in all directions—including back to Earth. Human activities, such as burning fossil fuels, have amplified this natural process, significantly driving up global temperatures.
We think that's what happened to Venus (the CO₂, not the burning of fossils fuels necessarily).

We're still some way from nuclear fusion. I'd prefer a matter/anti-matter reaction with dilithium crystals, but we're probably even further away from that.
There was one interesting thing that I saw - dropping water through small holes that created static electricity. I don't know if it's scalable or sustainable yet.

[jusplay4fun]

I am not aware of any significant efforts in anything Apatheist is referencing, other than nuclear fusion.

There are several efforts in the US to develop this fusion technology, one of which is based in Massachusetts and associated with MIT.

https://cfs.energy/

Here are some excerpts from Scientific American:

Could fusion energy soon join the U.S. power grid?

The fusion energy start-up Commonwealth Fusion Systems aims to bring its first power plant online by the early 2030s, but daunting technical hurdles remain (...)

Commonwealth has demonstrated some success

(...)
“By becoming the first fusion energy developer to enter a major grid operator’s interconnection queue, we’re demonstrating that when you’re serious about building a power plant in the early 2030s, you act now,” he [Commonwealth co-founder and CEO Bob Mumgaard] said. “This is execution.”

Commonwealth’s application will likely take years to be approved;

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e=linkedin

I am not holding my breath on this effort.

[Apatheist]

I am not aware of any significant efforts in anything Apatheist is referencing, other than nuclear fusion.

There are several efforts in the US to develop this fusion technology, one of which is based in Massachusetts and associated with MIT.

https://cfs.energy/

Here are some excerpts from Scientific American:

Could fusion energy soon join the U.S. power grid?

The fusion energy start-up Commonwealth Fusion Systems aims to bring its first power plant online by the early 2030s, but daunting technical hurdles remain (...)

Commonwealth has demonstrated some success

(...)
“By becoming the first fusion energy developer to enter a major grid operator’s interconnection queue, we’re demonstrating that when you’re serious about building a power plant in the early 2030s, you act now,” he [Commonwealth co-founder and CEO Bob Mumgaard] said. “This is execution.”

Commonwealth’s application will likely take years to be approved;

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e=linkedin

I am not holding my breath on this effort.

This isn't the best article, but it gives you an idea on the water/static thing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientists-e ... 37416.html

As I mentioned, scalability is an issue, but it may help in areas that don't have huge rivers.

Just found this one too:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 132354.htm