Conquer Madness!!! (winners in OP)

[Elaterate]

Week 3 game invites have been sent

[jytreberg]

7 of 10 week 1 games have been completed along with a handful of week 2 and 3 games. I am watching all of the games and updating the spreadsheet linked in the original post every time I see a game go final (usually about once a day).

[Elaterate]

7 of 10 week 1 games have been completed along with a handful of week 2 and 3 games. I am watching all of the games and updating the spreadsheet linked in the original post every time I see a game go final (usually about once a day).

[BabySasuke]

Enjoying the tourney so far E doing good

[elddir]

Not a big deal, but I think the seeding in stage 2 is sub-optimal (i.e. it punishes people for doing better in round 1 by pairing them against stronger teams in round #2). Although I think it's imperfect, I think the below would get much closer to accomplishing the goal of rewarding teams who do well in round 1:
Conf A: Teams #1, 8, 9, 16, 17
Conf B: Teams #2, 7, 10, 15, 18
Conf C: Teams #3, 6, 11, 14, 19
Conf D: Teams #4, 5, 12, 13, 20

(the above is based on the four main branches in this 20 team bracket: https://www.printyourbrackets.com/20seeded.html)

Note that in the above the top 4 teams are all in separate conferences, which makes a lot of sense.

[Elaterate]

Not a big deal, but I think the seeding in stage 2 is sub-optimal (i.e. it punishes people for doing better in round 1 by pairing them against stronger teams in round #2). Although I think it's imperfect, I think the below would get much closer to accomplishing the goal of rewarding teams who do well in round 1:
Conf A: Teams #1, 8, 9, 16, 17
Conf B: Teams #2, 7, 10, 15, 18
Conf C: Teams #3, 6, 11, 14, 19
Conf D: Teams #4, 5, 12, 13, 20

(the above is based on the four main branches in this 20 team bracket: https://www.printyourbrackets.com/20seeded.html)

Note that in the above the top 4 teams are all in separate conferences, which makes a lot of sense.

That was just an example and for the 24 teams I was hoping for... For 20 teams I was thinking....

Option 1: (Similar to yours)

Conf 1) 1,5,9,13,17

Conf 2) 2,6,10,14,18

Conf 3) 3,7,11,15,19

Conf 4) 4,8,12,16,20

Option 2:

Conf 1) 1,3,5,9,15

Conf 2) 2,4,6,10,16

Conf 3) 7,11,13,17,19

Conf 4) 8,12,14,18,20

Option 3:

Conf 1) 1,3,6,8,12

Conf 2) 2,4,7,9,13

Conf 3) 5,10,14,16,19

Conf 4) 11,15,17,18,20

Leaning towards Option 2 cause just like in College Basketball there are some conferences who's worst team is better then other conference's best team. Thoughts?

[elddir]

Well, it's your tournament, so obviously your choice!

Personally, I'd think the main idea would be to reward the best performers for round 1 with optimal placement in round 2. In a lot of those options, you'd rather not be the #1 (or even #2) seed. Option #1, the optimal seed is #4; Option #2, the optimal seed is #8; Option #3, the optimal seed is #11!

Note: the difference in my proposal and your option #1 is the "snaking" of the teams - this makes the seed preference generally follow the seed # (i.e. you'd prefer seed #1 to #2, etc.)

[Elaterate]

Well, it's your tournament, so obviously your choice!

Personally, I'd think the main idea would be to reward the best performers for round 1 with optimal placement in round 2. In a lot of those options, you'd rather not be the #1 (or even #2) seed. Option #1, the optimal seed is #4; Option #2, the optimal seed is #8; Option #3, the optimal seed is #11!

Note: the difference in my proposal and your option #1 is the "snaking" of the teams - this makes the seed preference generally follow the seed # (i.e. you'd prefer seed #1 to #2, etc.)

It's the players tournament, I'm just hosting I will run this by the other Captains through a PM and see what the majority thinks before I make a final decision.

[elddir]

Cheers! Thanks for taking suggestions!

[All Black Rugby]

I agree with elddir. I'd rather this was seeded with the strong playing the weak, as per the NBA playoffs e.g. 1v8; 2v7 etc. This provides incentive to get the highest seeding in Round 1.

Not a big deal, but I think the seeding in stage 2 is sub-optimal (i.e. it punishes people for doing better in round 1 by pairing them against stronger teams in round #2). Although I think it's imperfect, I think the below would get much closer to accomplishing the goal of rewarding teams who do well in round 1:
Conf A: Teams #1, 8, 9, 16, 17
Conf B: Teams #2, 7, 10, 15, 18
Conf C: Teams #3, 6, 11, 14, 19
Conf D: Teams #4, 5, 12, 13, 20

(the above is based on the four main branches in this 20 team bracket: https://www.printyourbrackets.com/20seeded.html)

Note that in the above the top 4 teams are all in separate conferences, which makes a lot of sense.

[jytreberg]

Just wanted to provide an update on the standings based on the few games that completed overnight and this morning (Eastern Time). Looks like the Ducks and Wildcats are off to an early lead, as the only unbeaten teams in Stage 1 after the Terps went down today. All week 1 games are complete and only two week 2 games are still active (Game 18618334-Illini vs. Lakers and Game 18618438-MO Tigers vs. KY Wildcats) and competitive at the moment.

Three games from week 3 remain (Game 18631038-Jayhawks vs. Illini, Game 18631041-Lakers vs. MO Tigers, and Game 18631046-Buckeyes vs. Wolfpack) with catstevens's Grand Valley St. Lakers looking to land their first victory in Game 18631041.

In other news, the 0-4 Pitt Panthers are looking to rebound from a rough start to the season with a late lead over the UNLV Runnin' Rebels in Game 18666178. The 0-3 Michigan State Spartans are also looking for a spark with a slight edge over the Missouri Tigers in Game 18646906.

Overall 34 games out of 100 have been completed in Stage 1 which puts us a hair over 1/3 complete in this stage.

Current Standings

Look for more news and analysis of Conquer Madness and be sure to tune in to the Stage 2 selection show, somewhere further down this forum thread.

[tfh182]

Best tournament ever... everybody has said so. We need to have E run all the tournaments, that guy is great at it.

[misteryforall]

Where is new update....
Oregon Ducks unbeaten in 7 games......Maryland Terrapins need to be disqualify-they are too dangerous

[Elaterate]

Where is new update....
Oregon Ducks unbeaten in 7 games......Maryland Terrapins need to be disqualify-they are too dangerous

6-0 to be technical about it, 7th game just started

[Elaterate]

Week 9 Games have been sent.


Won't be sending out Week 10 games until the Sunday or Monday after Christmas. Enjoy the holiday season everyone

[jytreberg]

Here are the updated standings as of this morning.

50% of all games have been completed and all teams except Illinois, Kentucky, and N.C. State have completed at least 4 games. Oregon is starting to pull away from the pack in stage one with a 1.5 game lead over several teams at the moment. Illinois remains the only winless team though they have a slight lead in their week 8 game.

Current Standings - 12/18/18

[All Black Rugby]

Cheers guys

[DBandit70]

Conquer_Madness_Standings_20181218.png

lol thought my team was like 4-1 lol did not know we were doing that bad

[jytreberg]

This is probably the last time I will get to update the standings until after the Christmas holiday so here is the latest update. Kentucky and Kansas flip flopped spots at the top and I wish I had better news for DBandit70, but his Spartans are still hanging out at the bottom. Oregon can secure the number one seed going into the next stage with two wins over their current opponents, Maryland, Kansas, and Ohio State as that would give them head to head tiebreakers in the event of matching records.

Current Standings - 12/21/18

Lastly, I added home and road wins and losses to the spreadsheet. I didn't include them here to keep the standings table manageable, but it is linked in the original post if you want to check it out.

[Elaterate]

Since 66/90 games are complete I am going to send out the final Week 10 games for Stage 1 tomorrow (a day early) in hopes that all games are complete by the end of January


Captains please leave votes below about PM I sent...

Option 1: 6 Votes

Conf A: Teams #1, 5, 9, 13, 17
Conf B: Teams #2, 6, 10, 14, 18
Conf C: Teams #3, 7, 11, 15, 19
Conf D: Teams #4, 8, 12, 16, 20


Option 2: 4 Votes

Conf A: Teams #1, 8, 9, 16, 17
Conf B: Teams #2, 7, 10, 15, 18
Conf C: Teams #3, 6, 11, 14, 19
Conf D: Teams #4, 5, 12, 13, 20


Option 3:

Conf A: Teams #1, 3, 5, 9, 15
Conf B: Teams #2, 4, 6, 10, 16
Conf C: Teams #7, 11, 13, 17, 19
Conf D: Teams #8, 12, 14, 18, 20


Option 4: 1 Vote

Conf A: Teams #1, 3, 6, 8, 12
Conf B: Teams #2, 4, 7, 9, 13
Conf C: Teams #5, 10, 14, 16, 19
Conf D: Teams #11, 15, 17, 18, 20

[DBandit70]

option 4

[Keefie]

option 1

[All Black Rugby]

Option 1 tks

[Will Lee]

I vote for option 1

[Domination_44]

Option 1