Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

[owenshooter]

Who cares?

The white Jesus has spoken. Jésus snore.

i care, because i am tired of hearing "hacking" accusations on CC... the masses need to be taught... consider this yet another sermon on the mount... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[Butters1919]

Who cares?

The white Jesus has spoken. Jésus snore.

I certainly don't. This is a rather useless thread.

[owenshooter]

Who cares?

The white Jesus has spoken. Jésus snore.

I certainly don't. This is a rather useless thread.

seeing as how you add very little to the forums, other than to kill others brain cells (from reading your posts). i highly doubt you have ever read any of the C&A threads concerning "hacking" or that you even read this thread. you have always been a marginal member of little to no merit within the forums, so it is nice to see you staying consistent...-BJ

[Symmetry]

[RiskTycoon]

Merit within the forums

hahahahahaha! I'm crying I'm laughing so hard.... WJ

[Butters1919]

seeing as how you add very little to the forums, other than to kill others brain cells (from reading your posts). i highly doubt you have ever read any of the C&A threads concerning "hacking" or that you even read this thread. you have always been a marginal member of little to no merit within the forums, so it is nice to see you staying consistent...-BJ

I'm just killing the superfluous ones.

I read most C&A reports. Some for entertainment, some to see how the site is being policed. I just don't care if someone uses slightly incorrect terminology. The message is clear, and that's all that really matters (to me).

[Dukasaur]

seeing as how you add very little to the forums, other than to kill others brain cells (from reading your posts). i highly doubt you have ever read any of the C&A threads concerning "hacking" or that you even read this thread. you have always been a marginal member of little to no merit within the forums, so it is nice to see you staying consistent...-BJ

I'm just killing the superfluous ones.

I read most C&A reports. Some for entertainment, some to see how the site is being policed. I just don't care if someone uses slightly incorrect terminology. The message is clear, and that's all that really matters (to me).

Like you, I read C&A partly for entertainment and partly for insight into how the site is policed.

To me, the people who scream "I've been hacked! I've been hacked!" are not a simple matter of using "slightly incorrect terminology." They are (in most cases, and begging the pardon of the small number of exceptions) people who are too catastrophically lazy to devise strong passwords. It only takes a few minutes to devise a password that will survive anything short of a full-blown KGB attack, and yet it's mind-blowing how many people's password is "1234".

Add to that the people who will:

• announce their password in open chat
• PM their password to a random stranger
• post their password on someone's wall
• put their password in a file to be shared with their entire clan, including some people they know but many people they don't

and it's a prescription for chaos.

People who share their accounts with people they barely know and then scream "I've been hacked!" are not just making a minor mistake in nomenclature. They are expecting someone else to clean up the mess they caused with their own stupidity and laziness.

[elfish_lad]

That right there? News letter article.

You're hired!

[Symmetry]

seeing as how you add very little to the forums, other than to kill others brain cells (from reading your posts). i highly doubt you have ever read any of the C&A threads concerning "hacking" or that you even read this thread. you have always been a marginal member of little to no merit within the forums, so it is nice to see you staying consistent...-BJ

I'm just killing the superfluous ones.

I read most C&A reports. Some for entertainment, some to see how the site is being policed. I just don't care if someone uses slightly incorrect terminology. The message is clear, and that's all that really matters (to me).

Like you, I read C&A partly for entertainment and partly for insight into how the site is policed.

To me, the people who scream "I've been hacked! I've been hacked!" are not a simple matter of using "slightly incorrect terminology." They are (in most cases, and begging the pardon of the small number of exceptions) people who are too catastrophically lazy to devise strong passwords. It only takes a few minutes to devise a password that will survive anything short of a full-blown KGB attack, and yet it's mind-blowing how many people's password is "1234".

Add to that the people who will:

• announce their password in open chat
• PM their password to a random stranger
• post their password on someone's wall
• put their password in a file to be shared with their entire clan, including some people they know but many people they don't

and it's a prescription for chaos.

People who share their accounts with people they barely know and then scream "I've been hacked!" are not just making a minor mistake in nomenclature. They are expecting someone else to clean up the mess they caused with their own stupidity and laziness.

Sort of agree, and Elfish Lad is right- you should put an article together, but there's an element of blaming the victim here, when the argument could be easily re-jigged into how to protect yourself.

A lot of people just aren't savvy about net-security. Educating them, rather than berating them might be a better option.

[Butters1919]

People who share their accounts with people they barely know and then scream "I've been hacked!" are not just making a minor mistake in nomenclature. They are expecting someone else to clean up the mess they caused with their own stupidity and laziness.

That's not hacking, cracking or even fracking... That's just plain stupid (as you indicated)!

[AAFitz]

Good stuff.

[owenshooter]

That right there? News letter article.

You're hired!

Sort of agree, and Elfish Lad is right- you should put an article together, but there's an element of blaming the victim here, when the argument could be easily re-jigged into how to protect yourself.

A lot of people just aren't savvy about net-security. Educating them, rather than berating them might be a better option.

see... this shows how active you truly are... the newsletter no longer exists!!! but yes, this would have been a great topic for the newsletter... pretty much every thread the black jesus creates or has created, is newsletter material... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[elfish_lad]

That right there? News letter article.

You're hired!

Sort of agree, and Elfish Lad is right- you should put an article together, but there's an element of blaming the victim here, when the argument could be easily re-jigged into how to protect yourself.

A lot of people just aren't savvy about net-security. Educating them, rather than berating them might be a better option.

see... this shows how active you truly are... the newsletter no longer exists!!! but yes, this would have been a great topic for the newsletter... pretty much every thread the black jesus creates or has created, is newsletter material... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[off topic]

I've just signed you up. First article is due by April 15th. 500 to 1000 words. Include a video. You get nothing for this other than a warm feeling in your heart. I'm the editor and chief. My word is law. Welcome aboard.

E.

[/off topic]

[Symmetry]

That right there? News letter article.

You're hired!

Sort of agree, and Elfish Lad is right- you should put an article together, but there's an element of blaming the victim here, when the argument could be easily re-jigged into how to protect yourself.

A lot of people just aren't savvy about net-security. Educating them, rather than berating them might be a better option.

see... this shows how active you truly are... the newsletter no longer exists!!! but yes, this would have been a great topic for the newsletter... pretty much every thread the black jesus creates or has created, is newsletter material... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[off topic]

I've just signed you up. First article is due by April 15th. 500 to 1000 words. Include a video. You get nothing for this other than a warm feeling in your heart. I'm the editor and chief. My word is law. Welcome aboard.

E.

[/off topic]

The Black Jesus railing against crackers- should be a fun read.

[riskllama]

i seriously doubt it, sym...

[Symmetry]

i seriously doubt it, sym...

I'm sure he'd be able to post something new and original.

[mookiemcgee]

Did we get an answer on the autism question? Just curious...

In my useless and under-educated opinion, cracking is a subset or form of hacking... but really only if you are using 'password cracking tools' or other hacking software. What goes on here with people just giving each other their passwords that's not really either.... it's just stupidity/ignorance/nihilistic lack of concern.

[owenshooter]

it truly just never ends... oh... my... black... jeBus...-Jésus noir

Subject: I was falsely enrolled in a game

Unknown?

16514783 is not a real game. I was somehow fraudulently enrolled in a speed game and the other three players in the game are all new recruits, possibly fake accounts. Has a saboteur hacked my account or is this a bizarre glitch. I have no idea who would do this. Perhaps a sore loser from a recent game. If you can't find out who did this could you at least remove this fake game from my record and explain to me how this happened.

Other: Enrolling me in a fraudulent speed game

[iAmCaffeine]

Owen, can you give me a few paragraphs detailing how cracking is related to tracking IPs and using network stressers?

[owenshooter]

Owen, can you give me a few paragraphs detailing how cracking is related to tracking IPs and using network stressers?

certainly!! as soon as i return from this conference i am presently in, in Geneva. we are working to put an end to this global problem!!-Bj

[iAmCaffeine]

Owen, can you give me a few paragraphs detailing how cracking is related to tracking IPs and using network stressers?

certainly!! as soon as i return from this conference i am presently in, in Geneva. we are working to put an end to this global problem!!-Bj

That is reassuring, thank you.

If you can also include a cross examination of the various network stressers available, such as performance against cost, I'd greatly appreciate it. If you have the time, that is.

[Dukasaur]

Owen, can you give me a few paragraphs detailing how cracking is related to tracking IPs and using network stressers?

certainly!! as soon as i return from this conference i am presently in, in Geneva. we are working to put an end to this global problem!!-Bj

That is reassuring, thank you.

If you can also include a cross examination of the various network stressers available, such as performance against cost, I'd greatly appreciate it. If you have the time, that is.

Shouldn't that be "stressors"?

[jgordon1111]

Owen, I read that C&A report you cited above

And understand what that player was talking about

A couple of months ago a player posted a link on my wall, asking me to join games, I clicked the link to look at the games, they were speed games, I backed out immediately the next thing I knew I had lost the game, I didn't join, nor was I notified it started, I went to K A about it and got what now seems to be in retrospect a CC PAT answer I must have joined the game and didn't remember, no players on CC put up links with auto join abilities.
Just saying on occasion b.s. happens here and all CC troops rally to deny it.
Get it?

[Symmetry]

Owen, I read that C&A report you cited above

And understand what that player was talking about

A couple of months ago a player posted a link on my wall, asking me to join games, I clicked the link to look at the games, they were speed games, I backed out immediately the next thing I knew I had lost the game, I didn't join, nor was I notified it started, I went to K A about it and got what now seems to be in retrospect a CC PAT answer I must have joined the game and didn't remember, no players on CC put up links with auto join abilities.
Just saying on occasion b.s. happens here and all CC troops rally to deny it.
Get it?

Was that why you got your ban?

[jgordon1111]

Owen, I read that C&A report you cited above

And understand what that player was talking about

A couple of months ago a player posted a link on my wall, asking me to join games, I clicked the link to look at the games, they were speed games, I backed out immediately the next thing I knew I had lost the game, I didn't join, nor was I notified it started, I went to K A about it and got what now seems to be in retrospect a CC PAT answer I must have joined the game and didn't remember, no players on CC put up links with auto join abilities.
Just saying on occasion b.s. happens here and all CC troops rally to deny it.
Get it?

Was that why you got your ban?

As usual you didn't pay attention, I NEVER GOT BANNED, I said a moderator told me if I ever contacted him again I would be PERMA BANNED, and no it wasn't K A who said it, try reading what people actually write once in a while, it might be helpful to keep you from seeming to be cerebrally challenged