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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby benga on Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:30 am

jghost7 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I think the points system should be removed entirely.




lol, if that happened, C&A would become a dead forum....lol :lol: :lol: :lol:


but the resign button would be reality, no longer stuck in those dead-end games
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:00 am

People are actually taking that post seriously.. Wow.
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby ubcman64 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:39 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:People are actually taking that post seriously.. Wow.


They should get rid of the points system.....seriously. They can still hand out hats and stars if that makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside. But no points = a lot less problems.
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby eddie2 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:58 am

wont bother quoting you ha but really come on, i have said i don't see a problem with what josko is doing he got permission from admin before doing it. (if this is true because admin didn't confirm that.) i have also said he is not doing it to manipulate the other scoreboards, but in effect when these games end it will do exactly that then the players who have played hard to try to get to the top of them scoreboards might put another report in about manipulation of them scoreboards, and they could possibly have a case for that because like several have said it is manipulation of points which will effect some players on other scoreboards, since josko is doing it for the main one which will not effect any player in the long run there, then i am sure him being a stand up guy,and does not want to do this and will probably agree with me that he should not be counted in them scoreboards. i myself was getting ready to have a bash at one of them, but will hold off until he has done this now.

now lets get onto the rest of your first post. you say about me not getting involved in the politics of the clan world (this is where that was posted.) have i even brought up the clan world in my post. have i said anything about the politics of the clan world, have i commented in any clan thread surrounding anything to do with any event or any rule. there is one simple answer. no i have not.

now onto your 2nd post in succession i may add. another bait flame towards me without reason i may add. i am allowed to state my concerns for what is happening. i am allowed to give constructive criticism for what is happening or even my opinion for what i think, like in several threads i have posted in i have made one or 2 posts then left it, but am not going to sit back and let you slate me again like you have done several times with matters that had no concern to you. now lets get off your hate of me and allow the rest to have there opinion and there criticism of what they think of this matter. i wont be posting again and think you should do the same.
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby HardAttack on Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:08 am

eddie2 wrote:wont bother quoting you ha but really come on, i have said i don't see a problem with what josko is doing he got permission from admin before doing it. (if this is true because admin didn't confirm that.) i have also said he is not doing it to manipulate the other scoreboards, but in effect when these games end it will do exactly that then the players who have played hard to try to get to the top of them scoreboards might put another report in about manipulation of them scoreboards, and they could possibly have a case for that because like several have said it is manipulation of points which will effect some players on other scoreboards, since josko is doing it for the main one which will not effect any player in the long run there, then i am sure him being a stand up guy,and does not want to do this and will probably agree with me that he should not be counted in them scoreboards. i myself was getting ready to have a bash at one of them, but will hold off until he has done this now.

now lets get onto the rest of your first post. you say about me not getting involved in the politics of the clan world (this is where that was posted.) have i even brought up the clan world in my post. have i said anything about the politics of the clan world, have i commented in any clan thread surrounding anything to do with any event or any rule. there is one simple answer. no i have not.

now onto your 2nd post in succession i may add. another bait flame towards me without reason i may add. i am allowed to state my concerns for what is happening. i am allowed to give constructive criticism for what is happening or even my opinion for what i think, like in several threads i have posted in i have made one or 2 posts then left it, but am not going to sit back and let you slate me again like you have done several times with matters that had no concern to you. now lets get off your hate of me and allow the rest to have there opinion and there criticism of what they think of this matter. i wont be posting again and think you should do the same.


eddie2 wrote:but am not going to sit back and let you slate me again like you have done several times with matters that had no concern to you

My clan ppl is MY ALL/SINGLE/FULL concern and i dont need to proove it to anyone including you how much devoted/dedicated clanner i am.
Mods might have had forgiven you and let you back in, doesnt mean we "KORT" also forgot the past... If you have a good understanding of written and spoken english (well you should geographically) then here is simple, what i am saying is, keep far/distant from my clan ppl PLEASE !!! There are 600.000 - 30 kort members = 599970 cc members you can talk with, right ? Have your time with em, leave us alone, we dont like you, dont and cant you see ? why sitting around us trying to talk to us while we dont like you eddie ?

eddie2 wrote:now lets get off your hate of me and allow the rest to have there opinion and there criticism of what they think of this matter

i never stood to prevent ppl stating themselves putting their opinions in this thread...my, so far, one and only post is here to be response to your posts...
i did not AGREE/DISAGREE with any other JOSKO posts in all JOSKO releated threads, feel free to make ur search to find it out yourself...

I AM NOT YOU TO SPEAK BLUE TODAY AND GLUE THE OTHER DAY eddie...

If you want hardattack dissapears and keeps away from you, PLEASE LEAVE MY CLAN PPL alone...
have fun and time with 599.970 remaining folks...
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby Shannon Apple on Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:28 pm

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chapcrap wrote:I have no idea if the numbers you posted on any of us are true. If I really went 30-1, I'm pretty proud of that. That being said, I never in any way did what you did. I just play all my games as they come. I just got home from work and played all my games that were waiting for me. I currently have no waiting games (I think). That's what I always do. The only time I wait is for round 1 fog games and teammate input. In any case, I certainly never went 93-0 followed by 9-64. I mean, you're underlining streaks for me that were 0-3 and calling them streaks. I mean, going 30-1 in between two streak of 0-3, is a lot different. Anyway, you want to accuse me, go ahead and start a thread. ;)

From my perspective, I feel like you just brought more than enough evidence to indict yourself, more than string CoF or I up. 93-0 followed by 9-64?! Wow.


Streaks aside, it is perfectly within the rules of the site to take your turns at any point during a 24 hour window. This report is spurious and, frankly, ridiculous. No rules were broken. Josko even checked before he began his run for his top score that his plan was legit by getting confirmation from king achilles.

I don't understand why people always try so hard to tear josko down. He began his run as conqueror. Then he won a bunch of points, hit his personal high score, and remained conqueror. Now he's lost a bunch of points and still remains conqueror.


That's what I can't understand about this entire thing. There was a bunch of threads made before this one and in each of those, several players that played against him said that all of his games against them were legit and he didn't do anything out of line. The Crown's thread was locked while staff discussed it, while this one remains open for the head hunters.

Are we really gonna do a witch hunt on the order of people's turns now?

For those comparing this to the crown's case, it's not the same at all. If you deliberately hold people hostage and not take your turns as you would have done, that's gross manipulation of the game. Even if you take the scoreboard out of it, holding up 700 games is ridiculous, then dropping to cook to get maximum effect. Dropping troops in a game that you have won and ending is not legit play.

People with common sense recognise how that case has nothing to do with Josko's.
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:50 pm

If people didn't keep rushing to his defence nobody would be "head hunting", as you put it. Not that it's unreasonable to defend a friend/clanbuddy, far from it, but it also adds petrol to the forrest fire.

I just enjoy the drama personally. Keep it coming guys.
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby Evil Semp on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:02 pm

Manipulate is to handle, control or influence a situation. In this case it was score. The question is did he break the rules? I could not find where josko.ri broke any rules. Don't we alL manipulate our score by trying to win a game? This is a casual website where you can take up to 24 hours for your turn. josko.ri is CLEARED.
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Re: josko.ri CLEARED[es]

Postby Evil Semp on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:03 pm

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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby chapcrap on Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:25 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Manipulate is to handle, control or influence a situation. In this case it was score. The question is did he break the rules? I could not find where josko.ri broke any rules. Don't we alL manipulate our score by trying to win a game? This is a casual website where you can take up to 24 hours for your turn. josko.ri is CLEARED.

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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby demonfork on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:56 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Manipulate is to handle, control or influence a situation. In this case it was score. The question is did he break the rules? I could not find where josko.ri broke any rules. Don't we alL manipulate our score by trying to win a game? This is a casual website where you can take up to 24 hours for your turn. josko.ri is CLEARED.


The precedent has now been set!

OPEN THE FLOOD GATES!!!!!!
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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby Lindax on Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:06 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Manipulate is to handle, control or influence a situation. In this case it was score. The question is did he break the rules? I could not find where josko.ri broke any rules. Don't we alL manipulate our score by trying to win a game? This is a casual website where you can take up to 24 hours for your turn. josko.ri is CLEARED.


Without judging josko: He did not only manipulate his score.

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Re: josko.ri[es]

Postby universalchiro on Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:35 pm

demonfork wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:Manipulate is to handle, control or influence a situation. In this case it was score. The question is did he break the rules? I could not find where josko.ri broke any rules. Don't we alL manipulate our score by trying to win a game? This is a casual website where you can take up to 24 hours for your turn. josko.ri is CLEARED.


The precedent has now been set!

OPEN THE FLOOD GATES!!!!!!

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And when someone starts 500 games and delays the losers till the 23 hour and real times the winners and subsequently shoots up the score board, don't bring a C&A case against him. Gates are open!! Josko.ri still didn't violate a rule, because there isn't one concerning this event. So kudos to him for discovering this loop hole before anyone else.
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Re: josko.ri CLEARED[es]

Postby Serbia on Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:21 pm

I very frequently play my winning games faster than my losing games. It's virtually my MO. I've just never done it at the level Josko has, nor has my score ever been high enough to draw attention. If I'm winning, I want to win quickly, because winning feels good. If I see I'm slowly losing a game, I'll put off taking that turn, because losing sucks.

Bollocks.
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