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[Wudf]

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[sniffie]

Arc Pro expressed belief in secret diplomacy conducted by myself and another player. This belief is inaccurate: I did not engage in secret diplomacy. Never have, never will. While his point of view can validate suspicions of foul play, it is clear from my point of view that no amount of information could have validated his actions. I believe that his comments in the game chat as well as the rating he left me are wrongfully harmful to my character. His claim of secret diplomacy is not followed up with a cheating&abuse report, and as such my name cannot be cleared of accusations. This upsets me greatly. I am requesting that the matter be settled via official decision on whether or not I cheated.

I will look into this but I cannot change the rating he left you. Maybe if you would ask nice he is willing to change it?

In Closing
Cheating/Abuse Team - In a way, this is more a report about myself than Arc Pro. I hope that you will be able to confidently reach a decision on the matter. I am not requesting a ban or removal of ratings but I accept any consequences.

Arc Pro - My rude language, while imo not unreasonable, did not properly address the situation and only supported your hypothesis of foul play. I apologize and believe I understand your position. Should I be cleared of the events in this game, I would like to play with you again, giving us the opportunity to rate one another unbiased by drama.

CC takes, to a certain limit, a liberal stance towards game chat. After reading the entire log, I see no Bigotry or Flaming.

sniffie

[Arc Pro]

Well this game is over for me,it was just one game,I let it go but I won't remove the ratings given I got bad ratings from u two so it's worst for me =)

I'll explain my side:

1)I was never in North America as Orange(wudf) quoted above - 1st lie =)...I was in Far East & India
Pink(another player) had Europe - 2nd lie

2) Desperation (Light Blue - his friend) already got Central America and United states - that's 2/3 of North America but instead of a)taking canada to complete his continent bonus(pretty defenseless) or b) go south america where Orange was still at growing stage(would have been easy for him to conquer)..Light Blue decided to go East Indies (no he didnt own most territories there,he just crushed everything - not my troops though)...This was a very weird strategy and started to raise my suspicion...as it would be hard for him to defend like this and he lost quite a lot of troops in the process.

3)why would he do this..it's just simple..Light Blue was already bordering Orange in North-South america and if Light Blue take Oceania too, Orange would be safe from chilean/australian claim..they would both be safe in Antartica

4)As I was suspecting them(I don't accuse if I don't have proof),I checked their game logs of other games..tadaaaa..they played a lot of double games together,befriending each other in game chat and in one of the game,someone asked them if they knew each other and Wudf replied that they were work colleagues.

5)I got back to our game,I asked them if they knew each other Desperation(Light Blue) told me that I should not make blind accusation and skipped my question.Every time he just used the FOG mode as escape goat and that was the reason I couldnt see anything and that I can't accuse because of that.(So you can't accuse if there is FOG mode now lmao)

6)But i'm no retarded,I could see from sparse territories I own and I always check what bonus each player get to know their whereabouts.

7)Then when I supplied the proof (Wudf saying that they know each other) Desperation started to be in defense mode saying that he doesnt like to be called a cheater etc)

Then the 2nd actor entered the scene Wudf(orange). "shut up bitch" was his first sentence,what an entrance lol

9)I attacked Desperation(light blue) in america and oceania because he attacked me in China..Light only had very little troops left in USA if I remember well but instead of eliminating him(with 5 cards) there,Orange just go through Central America then to India (my territories) to break my bonus.."superman went to save his friend" lol (hoping that I would leave light Blue alone maybe)

10) Light Blue used his cards but I managed to eliminate him.

11)Then after Light Blue was gone,Orange used his troops from India to take North America (also weird) because he could have just eliminate his friend and take north america directly instead of harassing me in Asia *sigh*

12) Oh I also asked PINK(another player) if I could have a NAP with him but Orange interrupted with:

2012-05-10 15:04:43 - Arc Pro: PINK...do you want a NAP between us 1turn notice prior to attacks?=)
2012-05-10 16:16:08 - Wudf: didn't i tell you to be quiet?

This sums up pretty much everything in order of what happened..Don't need to tell u what happened at the end between PINK,Orange and I lol..Orange just kept committing suicide on me even though PINK was the leader..but this was expected and it was just bad luck that we played this game together because I normally avoid playing a standard game with 2people who know each other really well coz they would less be willing to attack each other than attacking others =)

Oh please check the game chat and game log before posting this thread here..because I remember this game by heart from the beginning to the end =) (Well I always plan my strategy even if it's not my turn yet,I just don't come and play like a blind,that's why I remember every move in a game)

[Wudf]

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[jltile1]

Nice fog game with a guy at work sounds fair

[Arc Pro]

13.I never said you two were cheating deliberately , I was just pointing out the way Light Blue was playing was like a double game strategy - having your borders connected to protect each other and it was pretty obvious.

14.Maybe light blue was doing it without paying much attention to it or even you not knowing about it but as he is your friend , his first instinct would be not to attack you (which he could have easily done with his 7+territory bonus).

15.Instead he went to somewhere much more difficult to conquer and to defend(Oceania)...leaving North America (his bonus area) pretty defenseless (2/3 conquered) as he felt safe there even though you were in his south in South America.

16.This game was not much about you (except the insults) but the suspicious way Light blue played (which led me to know you were friends).

17.Arguing with you 2 in this game never got me any advantageous at all but instead just cost me the game because I didn't feel safe with you 2 together. So I lost a lot of troops eliminating Light Blue then I left you alone until you became the leading player in the game.

[Wudf]

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[sniffie]

Hi all,

I'm getting the feeling some players lost their temper in the stated game.

Wudf, do you still want to go through with the charges, or do you, after "debating" it Arc Pro drop them.

Maybe its best if you two don't play standard games together anymore to stay away from this kind of discussion.

sniffie

[Wudf]

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[sniffie]

this discussion isn't a problem for me at all, I just thought you two had it sorted out yourselves.
I've checked the game very closely. And will clear ARc Pro of: Unfounded character defamation (flaming), rating abuse, and mild trolling.

Wudf, the "shut up bitch" comment isn't an infraction. Neither you will be punished.

sniffie

[Arc Pro]

Well if you 2 remove the ratings u gave me, i'm willing to remove mine too =)