ok, I think I get it now. blue part is something like #3 in importance scale if tie breaker arises (behind red part, which is #2).ballenus wrote:Ok, I'll insiert later on some examples to clarify the different situations.
In all cases we take account:
1. number of points (2 points = battle of 5 games won).
2. number of games won (red part by josko).
This might however not be sufficient. Then at the end of phase 1, we will do again another table of standing taking into acount only the batles with the teams that have the same number of points and game won: usually it will simply be the result of the battle between the two teams with the same number of points and game won. In exceptional cases we might have perfect draw between 3 teams and then we will establish a ranking between them based only on the games between these three teams.
I hope this clarifies.
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exactly
#4 in importance will be games won on classic maps (taking account of the 4 games)
#5 in imporantce will be games won on Poison Rome
etc.
I hope that with all this we won't need a tie break!
#4 in importance will be games won on classic maps (taking account of the 4 games)
#5 in imporantce will be games won on Poison Rome
etc.
I hope that with all this we won't need a tie break!
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In Group E
theshiningsun and donination have defeated Davdanilo and Sekretar
3-2.
I think this is all that is needed.
theshiningsun and donination have defeated Davdanilo and Sekretar
3-2.
I think this is all that is needed.
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yep thxs. I'll update the table as soon I get a bit more results.
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Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 1 with a 5-0 score.
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Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.
Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?
Pity about the yellow card.
Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?
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Leehar wrote:Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.
Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?
12 move on. 2 from each group.
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bruces is right. You can go the thread and click on the "overview of the different phases" to understand how it works.
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Bruceswar wrote:Leehar wrote:Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.
Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?
12 move on. 2 from each group.
phase 2
In phase 2, the 16 remaining teams will be placed in different groups depending on their score in the first phase : the 16 teams will be placed in order 1 to 16, according to the number of games won (and then according to registration order).
In group 1, we will have number 1,8,9
In group 2, we will have number 2,7,10
In group 3, we will have number 3,6,11
In group 4, we will have number 4,5,12
Within each group, each team will meet each other on 10 maps:
1. Classic escalating, sun
2. Poison Rome, no card, fog
3. Drugs war, no card, fog
4. Berlin 1961, no card, sun
5. Arms race !, escalating, fog
6. Holy roman empire, no card, sun
7. Egypt Nubia, no card, sun
8. Battle for Irak, escalating, fog
9. France, no card, sun
10. 8 thoughts, escalating, fog
After the 10 games “battle”, the winner will be credited with 2 points and the loser with 0 point. In case of draw (5-5), there will be one point for each team. Each team will play 20 games in this second phase. Invitation for 5 games will be sent every 10 days, or even every two weeks. Idea is to maintain the average game load at or below 5 active games at a time during phase 2 too. Phase 2 might well end in January or February 2012.
Same rules than for phase 1 will apply to determine who is first within a given group : number of points, then number of games won and then more complex rules with, as necessary, setting up of tie braker game.
In group 1, we will have number 1,8,9
In group 2, we will have number 2,7,10
In group 3, we will have number 3,6,11
In group 4, we will have number 4,5,12
Within each group, each team will meet each other on 10 maps:
1. Classic escalating, sun
2. Poison Rome, no card, fog
3. Drugs war, no card, fog
4. Berlin 1961, no card, sun
5. Arms race !, escalating, fog
6. Holy roman empire, no card, sun
7. Egypt Nubia, no card, sun
8. Battle for Irak, escalating, fog
9. France, no card, sun
10. 8 thoughts, escalating, fog
After the 10 games “battle”, the winner will be credited with 2 points and the loser with 0 point. In case of draw (5-5), there will be one point for each team. Each team will play 20 games in this second phase. Invitation for 5 games will be sent every 10 days, or even every two weeks. Idea is to maintain the average game load at or below 5 active games at a time during phase 2 too. Phase 2 might well end in January or February 2012.
Same rules than for phase 1 will apply to determine who is first within a given group : number of points, then number of games won and then more complex rules with, as necessary, setting up of tie braker game.
But yes, the overview does seem to explain it better, so sorry about that
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sorry I didn't understand this "from" phase 2. Indeed, in phase 2 there will be 3 teams in each group and only one will advance to the semi-final.
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Table of standing updated (except for group E waiting for game to finish). If I'm correct, with the exception of Group A, everything is still open and all teams can still be in or out. Have nice "day 3" games.
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Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 2 with a 3-2 score.
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Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 3 with a 5-0 score.
We completed phase 1 with 6 points, 13 wins and 2 losses.
We completed phase 1 with 6 points, 13 wins and 2 losses.
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Ok I updated the table of standing. if i'm correct situation is as follows:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : eveything is still possible.
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : eveything is still possible.
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.
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corrigendum in group E: trapyoung jpeter15 have still a chance if they win 4-1 (2-1 right now)
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Leehar and Maasman advance with 6 points and another 3-2 win.
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I updated the table of standing. if i'm correct situation is as follows now:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with winner of game Game 10057893 (probably sherkaner & QoH)
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.
I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with winner of game Game 10057893 (probably sherkaner & QoH)
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.
I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.
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Postby ballenus on Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:45 pm
I"ll update the table of standing soon. I think all is settled now:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with sherkaner & QoH
- Group C : denthefrog josko.ri move for sure and 95% for killboy108 briggs1209: it seems they're winning their last game which means they will have exactly the same number of points and wins than mkcummins dwilhelmi. As they won against mkcummins dwilhelmi they move on.
- Group D : danryan pander88uk and NanoTheGreat Deli move.
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork move.
We have to wait for all games to finish to establish the final table of standing and groups for phase 2.
I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.
I"ll update the table of standing soon. I think all is settled now:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with sherkaner & QoH
- Group C : denthefrog josko.ri move for sure and 95% for killboy108 briggs1209: it seems they're winning their last game which means they will have exactly the same number of points and wins than mkcummins dwilhelmi. As they won against mkcummins dwilhelmi they move on.
- Group D : danryan pander88uk and NanoTheGreat Deli move.
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork move.
We have to wait for all games to finish to establish the final table of standing and groups for phase 2.
I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.
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I assume we have shiningsun and donination because we were already in the same group as Q and sherk? (ie otherwise they'd be lowest seeds)
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You should probably not join games until you get this sorted out.Leehar wrote:I assume we have shiningsun and donination because we were already in the same group as Q and sherk? (ie otherwise they'd be lowest seeds)
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that was a bug, thanks for spotting - I corrected it.
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Theres a problem with Group 3 scores. Nano/Deli only played 3 games against Killboy/Briggs. You have it down as a tie 2-2 we won that 2-1.
