[CC 2010 Semis] TOFU vs KoRT [20-40 of 60]

[trapyoung]

looks like that multiple game forfeit instead of 1 game penalty came in handy =P

A one game forfeit would have been equally ridiculous. The rule should be the game[s] in question should either be if the infringing team wins, the games are (1) remade or (2) have the win vacated. In this situation, the score would have remained TOFU 32 - KoRT 28 because the 21st game was Cman which KoRT won.

But, to illustrate the point, had the score been TOFU 31 - KoRT 29 with the final game Cman being a TOFU win, the option should be either to replay Cman with appropriate teams or vacate the win so that the final score would have been TOFU 30 - KoRT 29. It is absolutely ridiculous to confer an automatic win for that type of mistake - you should have the option to retain the game should the non-infringing team win that game, but if the infringing team were to win that in no way warrants the other team automatically getting a point which would have made it 30-30 overcompensating the non-infringer for a win non-deserved. And in the end, the non-infringer will have at least 2 opportunities to win the map and that is more than adequate to compensate for someone joining 1 additional game by mistake.

[jj3044]

C'mon man, stop. You'r beating a dead horse... so maybe you should be posting in this thread instead: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=441&t=131744

[trapyoung]

If I do it in here I'm less likely to get warned/banned for trolling, baiting or flaming seeing how nobody looks here

[jj3044]

If I do it in here I'm less likely to get warned/banned for trolling, baiting or flaming seeing how nobody looks here

You didn't get the joke... "dead horse" was a play on words...

[trapyoung]

If I do it in here I'm less likely to get warned/banned for trolling, baiting or flaming seeing how nobody looks here

You didn't get the joke... "dead horse" was a play on words...

Damn, now I get it . Sorry, still coming out of my 2 week haze of learning and exams

If THOTA were to lose, I'm fairly positive someone who rhymes with Litzaholic would claim 60 games is too small a sample size

[Lubawski]

looks like that multiple game forfeit instead of 1 game penalty came in handy =P

A one game forfeit would have been equally ridiculous. The rule should be the game[s] in question should either be if the infringing team wins, the games are (1) remade or (2) have the win vacated. In this situation, the score would have remained TOFU 32 - KoRT 28 because the 21st game was Cman which KoRT won.

But, to illustrate the point, had the score been TOFU 31 - KoRT 29 with the final game Cman being a TOFU win, the option should be either to replay Cman with appropriate teams or vacate the win so that the final score would have been TOFU 30 - KoRT 29. It is absolutely ridiculous to confer an automatic win for that type of mistake - you should have the option to retain the game should the non-infringing team win that game, but if the infringing team were to win that in no way warrants the other team automatically getting a point which would have made it 30-30 overcompensating the non-infringer for a win non-deserved. And in the end, the non-infringer will have at least 2 opportunities to win the map and that is more than adequate to compensate for someone joining 1 additional game by mistake.

I've suggested something almost identical to this in the CLA in our discussions about what to do when something like this occurs.

[Foxglove]

I personally think that every single topic in the CC forumverse is an appropriate location to mention some interesting, entertaining, or enlightening aspect of the CC 2010 Semis [REDACTED] challenge.

[Ace Rimmer]

stop baiting, Foxglove.

[Blitzaholic]

But, to illustrate the point, had the score been TOFU 31 - KoRT 29 with the final game Cman being a TOFU win, the option should be either to replay Cman with appropriate teams or vacate the win so that the final score would have been TOFU 30 - KoRT 29.

perhaps they will play the conquerman map over for fun to see it they could tie it 30-30? i guess it still would be unofficial, but, would be nice to know out fo curiousity.

[Knight2254]

But, to illustrate the point, had the score been TOFU 31 - KoRT 29 with the final game Cman being a TOFU win, the option should be either to replay Cman with appropriate teams or vacate the win so that the final score would have been TOFU 30 - KoRT 29.

perhaps they will play the conquerman map over for fun to see it they could tie it 30-30? i guess it still would be unofficial, but, would be nice to know out fo curiousity.

Ain't going to happen - challenge is over and everybody knows who won. I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

[josko.ri]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

fortunately, it also exists clan named TOFU with some great persons and players, and I would like to have some epic challenges in future vs that clan.

if we played vs TOFU, we would loose 32-28, but, unfortunately, we played vs COFU, so final result is 40-20. I hope in our next challenges the opponents will be TOFU clan, as I want to play the war which will really be epic, not only in the games but also outside of the games.

[trapyoung]

But, to illustrate the point, had the score been TOFU 31 - KoRT 29 with the final game Cman being a TOFU win, the option should be either to replay Cman with appropriate teams or vacate the win so that the final score would have been TOFU 30 - KoRT 29.

perhaps they will play the conquerman map over for fun to see it they could tie it 30-30? i guess it still would be unofficial, but, would be nice to know out fo curiousity.

Wouldn't matter. We lost the 21st game and final score was 32-28, if we replayed and won the final score would be 33-27 or if we lost again it would be 32-28, not sure where you came up with the 30-30 thought.

[Incandenza]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

You played 17 games, 4 more than any other cow. Glass houses, rocks, etc.

[elfish_lad]

You played 17 games...

Well my friend, that is not including turn sitting. Heh. That number might be a tad higher if one included those.

Nonetheless, kettles and pots not withstanding, I'm pretty sure this is all water and bridges to most Fellows.

Merry, Merry to all in this thread.

Even josko.

[Chariot of Fire]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

fortunately, it also exists clan named TOFU with some great persons and players, and I would like to have some epic challenges in future vs that clan.

if we played vs TOFU, we would loose 32-28, but, unfortunately, we played vs COFU, so final result is 40-20. I hope in our next challenges the opponents will be TOFU clan, as I want to play the war which will really be epic, not only in the games but also outside of the games.

Haha, this is rich. You really should let it go josko or I shall make a point of forever reminding you that you sat for Moonchild who was entered in games whilst on holiday - thus your game count and turns played actually exceeded mine, which is rather ironic in the circumstances.

You just keep bending the rules, no probs. One day you'll get your comeuppance.

[josko.ri]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

fortunately, it also exists clan named TOFU with some great persons and players, and I would like to have some epic challenges in future vs that clan.

if we played vs TOFU, we would loose 32-28, but, unfortunately, we played vs COFU, so final result is 40-20. I hope in our next challenges the opponents will be TOFU clan, as I want to play the war which will really be epic, not only in the games but also outside of the games.

Haha, this is rich. You really should let it go josko or I shall make a point of forever reminding you that you sat for Moonchild who was entered in games whilst on holiday - thus your game count and turns played actually exceeded mine, which is rather ironic in the circumstances.

You just keep bending the rules, no probs. One day you'll get your comeuppance.

I covered for stunna during some weekends, moonchild during his 7 days apsence and max 2 turns that was about to expire in other period, and for steve, KP only one turn which was about to expire. so only 4 players, and 2 of them only 1 turn.

You covered for 8 players that I noticed (maybe also some that I didnt notice): timmy1, jpeter15, trapyoung, OutSider, Pedronicus, sonicsteve, Dako, Iron Maid.

so not only you played 21 games, but also covered for about half of your clan, and then you calling me for lot of sitting?

I would very like that it also exists some max number of games in clan war which is allowed to sit per player, so then next time we will play vs TOFU, not vs COFU. I will suggest this in CLA forum, when catch some time.

[josko.ri]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

You played 17 games, 4 more than any other cow. Glass houses, rocks, etc.

Masli had reasons to give to me 4 more games than any other cow, and that reasons are NOT playing skills. something happened inside clan before batch 3, which caused that i got more games in last batch. in 1&2 batches, I played the same number of games like several other cows.

our main goal is fun, so we always try to have fun as much as possible spreaded to our clan memebers, to everyone have as much as possible fun. less games have only players who were apsent for some period. obviously TOFU's only goal is winning, not having fun, so playing skills determines who will play the most games, for someone even more than allowed

also, I think that the person who makes player assignment and give to himself the most allowed number of games is very selfish, and has feeling only for himself, not for his clan. great leader is not the one who always put himself on the first and the most important place. for example, I make roster for CLA League and I am 5th cow considering number of games played there. personally, having fun for whole clan is more important than having fun mostly for myself. but, that is only personal opinion, probably someone think that others from clan doesnt want having fun playing more games.

[Big Whiskey]

I, personally, don't have any interest in ever playing another game with a member of CORT as I only play with those I respect.

Thanks Knight. nor I have any interest in playing another games with members of COFU clan (Chariot Of Fire Union).

You played 17 games, 4 more than any other cow. Glass houses, rocks, etc.

Masli had reasons to give to me 4 more games than any other cow, and that reasons are NOT playing skills. something happened inside clan before batch 3, which caused that i got more games in last batch. in 1&2 batches, I played the same number of games like several other cows.

our main goal is fun, so we always try to have fun as much as possible spreaded to our clan memebers, to everyone have as much as possible fun. less games have only players who were apsent for some period. obviously TOFU's only goal is winning, not having fun, so playing skills determines who will play the most games, for someone even more than allowed

also, I think that the person who makes player assignment and give to himself the most allowed number of games is very selfish, and has feeling only for himself, not for his clan. great leader is not the one who always put himself on the first and the most important place. for example, I make roster for CLA League and I am 5th cow considering number of games played there. personally, having fun for whole clan is more important than having fun mostly for myself. but, that is only personal opinion, probably someone think that others from clan doesnt want having fun playing more games.

So,please tell me where was the fun in penalizing TOFU 21 games?

[josko.ri]

So,please tell me where was the fun in penalizing TOFU 21 games?

nowhere, just like it wasnt fun playing whole this war and being multiple times insulted by members of other clan.

What was played without fun, also ended without fun.

[InsomniaRed]

So,please tell me where was the fun in penalizing TOFU 21 games?

nowhere, just like it wasnt fun playing whole this war and being multiple times insulted by members of other clan.

What was played without fun, also ended without fun.

Oooh so you did it as revenge. Got it.

[josko.ri]

So,please tell me where was the fun in penalizing TOFU 21 games?

nowhere, just like it wasnt fun playing whole this war and being multiple times insulted by members of other clan.

What was played without fun, also ended without fun.

Oooh so you did it as revenge. Got it.

Imagine Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer play final of Wimbledon. then Rafael during the match says to Roger several times: "you idiot, clown, ritard, you are mad...".
of course that final, which should be epic match, wouldnt more be fun nor to Roger nor to spectators (maybe would be only to Rafa).

so, what will be referee's decision? I think Rafa will be disqualified.
would Roger complain for that and ask referee to continue the match in which he lost any fun long ago due to treatment he got from his opponent? of course not.

so, did Roger made revenge with no asking referee to continue the match?

[InsomniaRed]

So,please tell me where was the fun in penalizing TOFU 21 games?

nowhere, just like it wasnt fun playing whole this war and being multiple times insulted by members of other clan.

What was played without fun, also ended without fun.

Oooh so you did it as revenge. Got it.

Imagine Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer play final of Wimbledon. then Rafael during the match says to Roger several times: "you idiot, clown, ritard, you are mad...".
of course that final, which should be epic match, wouldnt more be fun nor to Roger nor to spectators (maybe would be only to Rafa).

so, what will be referee's decision? I think Rafa will be disqualified.
would Roger complain for that and ask referee to continue the match in which he lost any fun long ago due to treatment he got from his opponent? of course not.

so, did Roger made revenge with no asking referee to continue the match?

And how does 1 person = 1 clan? You're going to tell me that every single member of TOFU was 'insulting you multiple times''?

[sjnap]

Oh please red. Stop the ass.... Its obvious you are hoping Tofu takes you in the clan.
Because we didnt take you in the clan doesnt means you must keep on going on with this.
About time everyone goes on with life and stop this bullshit.

Happy holiday all

[josko.ri]

And how does 1 person = 1 clan? You're going to tell me that every single member of TOFU was 'insulting you multiple times''?

nope, I dont tell it. nor every single person's game is forfeited. forfeited are only games with the player who was "insulting me multiple times" and killed all my fun I had in this clan war with that. you still have 20 wins, no? earned by TOFU players, not by COFU players.

hi sjnap, nice to see you around. happy holidays to you also

[Dako]

Oh please red. Stop the ass.... Its obvious you are hoping Tofu takes you in the clan.
Because we didnt take you in the clan doesnt means you must keep on going on with this.
About time everyone goes on with life and stop this bullshit.

Happy holiday all O:)

We accepted Red at Thursday. You missed it ;).

our main goal is fun, so we always try to have fun as much as possible spreaded to our clan memebers, to everyone have as much as possible fun. less games have only players who were apsent for some period. obviously TOFU's only goal is winning, not having fun, so playing skills determines who will play the most games, for someone even more than allowed :roll:

also, I think that the person who makes player assignment and give to himself the most allowed number of games is very selfish, and has feeling only for himself, not for his clan. great leader is not the one who always put himself on the first and the most important place. for example, I make roster for CLA League and I am 5th cow considering number of games played there. personally, having fun for whole clan is more important than having fun mostly for myself. but, that is only personal opinion, probably someone think that others from clan doesnt want having fun playing more games.

You have never seen the TOFU topics and you cannot use the argument about who takes what games. And judging by your actions (ie penalty) is is your goal to win and advance, not ours.