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Postby yeti_c on Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:26 pm

fluffybunnykins wrote:the pinkness has gone, but so has the whiteness! the cows are disappearing! Also, I was meaning lighter than the ground colour, for the island names, rather than lighter than the words themselves!
DiM, you're not only doing a fine job with the visuals & concept, but also managing to implement ideas from the forum with icredible speed... smart!


I concur - your turn around is pretty swift...

I'm starting to look forward to this map now - the excitement is building as the map gets more and more refined.

Needless to say there will be detractors to this map as people won't understand the concept but I for one am really loving it.

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Postby DiM on Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:30 pm

here is a more visible cow:


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Postby DiM on Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:37 pm

is this text ok? i left the one in the middle for comparison.

also in the previous image i removed the white from the cows and made it a bit more yellow-brownish to fit with the map, but they should be very visible.

edit// i did the same blending to the market also.

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Postby yeti_c on Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:55 pm

DiM wrote:is this text ok? i left the one in the middle for comparison.

also in the previous image i removed the white from the cows and made it a bit more yellow-brownish to fit with the map, but they should be very visible.

edit// i did the same blending to the market also.

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Like the colour - preferred the scripty font you used earlier - less modern looking.

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Postby DiM on Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:05 pm

here you go.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:37 pm

Which version is better? (see them on page 10)

version A
25% [ 3 ]
Version B
75% [ 9 ]

Total Votes : 12


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Postby hulmey on Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:52 pm

its coming along nicely.....Ithink you should still have the colours around the icons!!!

Also maybe instead of a cross for the tresure you could have a treasure box!!!!
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Postby Molacole on Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:10 pm

I like this one the best so far.

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If you transfer what the legend looks like onto the map I think it would look a lot better than bold black markets and such.
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:21 am

hulmey wrote:its coming along nicely.....Ithink you should still have the colours around the icons!!!

Also maybe instead of a cross for the tresure you could have a treasure box!!!!


there was a poll and most people chose no colours istead of colours around the icons. so i don't think that's going to change.

and sorry but the cross stays. X marks the spot baby :P
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:22 am

here is for you molacole:
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but i still prefer this one. the icons are very clear and they are very readable. if you put too many colours (like above) the map sort of loses the feeling.


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Postby Captain Crash on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:34 am

Couple of questions:

1) Seeing as one does not get bonuses for continents...what's with the brown unreadable text running across the continents? I say get rid of it, it is distracting.
2) I think you need to re-think the bonuses for resources and continents. At the moment:
- "A resource and a market on the same continent = +2"
and
- "All resources and the market from 1 continent = +2"
Same bonus!

How about:
- "A market and resources on the same continent = +1 per resource"
So
- 1 resource and 1 market = +1
- 3 resources and 1 market = +3

Holding the extra market(s) on a continent should not gain you anything...more of a means of stopping others from gaining a bonus.

I prefer the map without so much color, but I do like that a colored market stands out more, and as they seem to be the main event of this map that would probably be a good thing.

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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:44 am

Captain Crash wrote:Couple of questions:

1) Seeing as one does not get bonuses for continents...what's with the brown unreadable text running across the continents? I say get rid of it, it is distracting.


that brown text is the name of the continents. people requested it so i put it, plus it shows clearly which are the continents


Captain Crash wrote:2) I think you need to re-think the bonuses for resources and continents. At the moment:
- "A resource and a market on the same continent = +2"
and
- "All resources and the market from 1 continent = +2"
Same bonus!

How about:
- "A market and resources on the same continent = +1 per resource"
So
- 1 resource and 1 market = +1
- 3 resources and 1 market = +3


actually each continent has 2 res and one market. if you get 1 R and 1M on the same continent you get +2 if you also get the second R you get another +2 for taking that res to the market and another +2 for holding a monopol on that continent. the bonuses and the conections are ok right now. the only thing that might change is the army quantity. maybe halved.

Captain Crash wrote:Holding the extra market(s) on a continent should not gain you anything...more of a means of stopping others from gaining a bonus.


there are no extra markets on a continent. there's only one market / continent

Captain Crash wrote:I prefer the map without so much color, but I do like that a colored market stands out more, and as they seem to be the main event of this map that would probably be a good thing.

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i too prefer the colourless icons, and the market is not the main thing. actually the resources are.
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Postby JCRuffino on Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:48 am

yeti_c wrote:
fluffybunnykins wrote:DiM, you're not only doing a fine job with the visuals & concept, but also managing to implement ideas from the forum with icredible speed... smart!


I concur - your turn around is pretty swift...


I agree, just mention a change and an hour later BAM, it's done. I'm really liking the new stuff, and I'm glad everyone saw sense and voted for no colour on the icons.

I do think the continent names are distracting and hard to read, as you've coloured the continent outlines I don't see what purpose the names serve.

yeti_c wrote:I'm starting to look forward to this map now - the excitement is building as the map gets more and more refined.


Same here, I reckon me you and DiM should have a 3 player game when this is up and running.
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:12 am

the island names can be removed. it's easy.
i see some people are still not satisfied with the graphics and gameplay. i kindly ask them to post here and tell me what disturbs them. i can't make the map better without suggestions because i don't know what you guys want. any suggestion is welcome and i'll make the modifications asap. :D
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Postby onbekende on Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:17 am

seeing people want me to give advice

I give advice on map with no colours to resources. I like that one

first, get something else for Shells, perhaps even the icon used by Shell (company, think something like that is better)

Top left island:
Make route from Rochas to Colato
Switch Market with Iron Ore

Top island:
good

Left Island:
Iron Ore to Terra Nera
Delete way from Cape Longo to Puerto Modesto
make route from Puerto Antigo to Rompas

Buttom Island:
Change Treasude to Val de Juro
Close Val de Juro <=> Stucato

Islands in the middle:
note the changes in other parts


resource system is nice, but some resources are more abundant then others, perhaps delete the Iron Ore is Chino totally.


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Postby JCRuffino on Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:44 am

Agree with trying out different shell icons actually.
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:48 am

onbekende wrote:seeing people want me to give advice

I give advice on map with no colours to resources. I like that one


yeah. me too.

onbekende wrote:first, get something else for Shells, perhaps even the icon used by Shell (company, think something like that is better)


i already swithced the shell to a more clear one but if more people agree to this i'll take the shell shell :P

onbekende wrote:Top left island:
Make route from Rochas to Colato
Switch Market with Iron Ore


why? i can easily do this but i want a reason.

onbekende wrote:Top island:
good


i'm glad

onbekende wrote:Left Island:
Iron Ore to Terra Nera
Delete way from Cape Longo to Puerto Modesto
make route from Puerto Antigo to Rompas


again why move the resource?
i won't do this route modification because at this moment all continents have 4 borders. if i do what you say Arlina Island will have just 3 borders while Archipelago del Sol will have 5. not good.

onbekende wrote:Buttom Island:
Change Treasude to Val de Juro
Close Val de Juro <=> Stucato


why move the treasure. i can do it but again i need a reason.
i won't close that border. see above explanations.

onbekende wrote:Islands in the middle:
note the changes in other parts


noted and answered above

onbekende wrote:resource system is nice, but some resources are more abundant then others, perhaps delete the Iron Ore is Chino totally.


it really does not matter that i have more iron mines than alligator skins. the resources are all the same regarding the importance.
and i won't delete the iron ore in Chino because each continent has 2 resources and a market to balance gameplay.

onbekende wrote:Rest is extreme good, grats


thanks.
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:09 am

here are 4 more types of shells.

which one is better?
1. the old one
2. the one in the legend
3. Rompas
4. Gringo
5. Reyes

i like the ones in Gringo and Rompas

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Postby bedplay on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:28 am

I have to say, I wouldn't play this map nor do i like the idea of this map.

New gameplay, I do like, but If I have to sepnd 5 minutes every go checking who has what bonuses I won't be bothered to play it....
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:30 am

bedplay wrote:I have to say, I wouldn't play this map nor do i like the idea of this map.

New gameplay, I do like, but If I have to sepnd 5 minutes every go checking who has what bonuses I won't be bothered to play it....


what's so hard? you see red has 2 resources and a market, BAM conquer his market and he's butt naked :)
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Postby Gozar on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:39 am

Go with the Rompas shell.
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Postby JCRuffino on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:39 am

I prefer the shell in Rompas, but a little smaller perhaps.
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Postby DiM on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:42 am

ok. in the next update there will be only rompas shells (a little smaller) :)

i won't put a picture yet. i'll wait for other things to implement.

i'll wait for more feedback.
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Postby onbekende on Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:52 am

ROMPAS

some changes in where the resources are should make some of them harder to fight over, or just a bit harder to control
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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:44 pm

ok i didn't take the time to read the entire thread so will there be continent bonuses?
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