Triples World League [Winners: josko.ri/Moonchild/Bruceswar]

[dyrtydog]

why is this person playing when not in tourney?

pimphawks70: ljex for pimp

[dyrtydog]

Here's my point....the team has been playing together through so many rounds...all of a sudden,this becomes a clan thing, where someone on the outside steps in for a clan mate to make a turn, but they are not part of the team. In the olympics or anything else...tour de france, you are disqualified.

NOT FAIR....only teammates can play for each other.

WE protest this game. Game 6788022

[josko.ri]

dont agree. triples teams are sometimes made randomly, so why should someone give a pass to a player that he doesnt have trust in. in that case can happen something like in game 6788049 chat. next day draq sent all of us pm and say that he didnt wrote this in chat, and he suppose that probably someone of his account sitters wrote that. so I prefer giving password only to members who are reliable, not to every person that I play team games with.

if you are better than France, you will beat them on the board, not in the game topic.

[josko.ri]

JUST FOR FUTURE TOURNAMENTS....

WE protest this game. Game 6788022

why do you protest if your point is just for FUTURE tournaments?

[Commander62890]

Here's my point....the team has been playing together through so many rounds...all of a sudden,this becomes a clan thing, where someone on the outside steps in for a clan mate to make a turn, but they are not part of the team. In the olympics or anything else...tour de france, you are disqualified.

NOT FAIR....only teammates can play for each other.

WE protest this game. Game 6788022

You fucking sore loser. He took 1 turn for Pimp because I had 130 games going, and was unable to take Pimp's turn. 1 FUCKING TURN. Are you seriously whining about this? Ljex is a member of our clan. Oh, and by the way: Pimp, Dustine, and I are all better than him at team games. So please, do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up.

Are Culs and Crash actually with you in "protesting this game?"






Separate note: Looks like we should be going 16-4 or 17-3 after this set of games.

[ljex]

Here's my point....the team has been playing together through so many rounds...all of a sudden,this becomes a clan thing, where someone on the outside steps in for a clan mate to make a turn, but they are not part of the team. In the olympics or anything else...tour de france, you are disqualified.

NOT FAIR....only teammates can play for each other.

WE protest this game. Game 6788022

You fucking sore loser. He took 1 turn for Pimp because I had 130 games going, and was unable to take Pimp's turn. 1 FUCKING TURN. Are you seriously whining about this? Ljex is a member of our clan. Oh, and by the way: Pimp, Dustine, and I are all better than him at team games. So please, do us all a favor and shut the f*ck up.

Are Culs and Crash actually with you in "protesting this game?"






Separate note: Looks like we should be going 16-4 or 17-3 after this set of games.

Way to publically call me out on this, but it is true all 3 of them are better at team games than me. If you were thinking my score is higher its because of speed freestyle.

[josko.ri]

If you were thinking my score is higher its because of speed freestyle.

It is because you and Commander62890 play together 3 player games. it is not hard to suppose who will win and increase the rank, somebody of you or third player.

[ljex]

If you were thinking my score is higher its because of speed freestyle.

It is because you and Commander62890 play together 3 player games. it is not hard to suppose who will win and increase the rank, somebody of you or third player.

please support that with evidence there is none and when those games were played i was never ranked higher than a major. Also if you look at me in those 3 player games i win 51% (manual freestyle speed) and commander62890 wins 53% so you have to look and say that we have 19 games together compared to my 450 ish and his 350 ish. So really all i can do is laugh at you for your obvious lack of actual investigation into this matter. Also we can both gain points if we want him through team games and me through freestyle speed so that is not the motivation behind us playing together. If you look at most of those chats he asks me not to join because he was medal hunting and had already beat me thus not getting a unique defeat if he won.

[Commander62890]

If you were thinking my score is higher its because of speed freestyle.

It is because you and Commander62890 play together 3 player games. it is not hard to suppose who will win and increase the rank, somebody of you or third player.

This almost isn't worth responding to due to it's stupidity and lack of research... The last 3-man fs speed game I played was April 7th. I have been in about 225 games since then, none of them freestyle. Those 3-mans were almost all terminator or assassin, because we were going for medals. I hated playing him because, not only was he difficult to beat, but beating him did not contribute to my medal hunt. I foed him at one point to stop him from joining. Both of us were at lower ranks than we are now when we were playing those 3-mans.

[josko.ri]

@ ljex and commander:

lol, so you got for a medals with playing 3 players game together?... here are the facts... somebody of you (ljex or commander) won 17 of 20 3 player games where both participated (85%).

here are the games that you didnt won:

game 6560721
game 6579179
game 6584797

and some highlight from chats of these games:
game 6560721:
ljex: congrats on another win commander
ljex: how did you lose
ljex: you shouldnt have cashed
ljex: you need to block him fast...

game 6579179:
ljex: commander what are we going to do about the current situation
commander: just start attacking him, ljex....

game 6584797:
commander: the guy is 17 for 133 do you really think he's smart enough to do this deliberately?
commander: I've lost over a dozen speed freestyles due to accidental deadbeat
- so in third game commander says why he attacked ljex, because he expected third player deadbeat.


so 85% of win and non-successful dealings in the games that you lost? enough to anybody to conclude if you were together in these games or not. you shouldnt be obvious in cheating, that s why you lost some games, because if you were obvious in attacking third player, you would probably be reported in C&A reports.

ok, I concluded wrong that it was for rank, but probably it was then for medals, with deal that both of you will win about half of the games. I just hate when somebody dont play fairly, and I noticed these games were probably not played with fair behavior to the 3rd player, according to highlights from game chats that I wrote here and % of games that somebody of you won (85%).

[ljex]

@ ljex and commander:

lol, so you got for a medals with playing 3 players game together?... here are the facts... somebody of you (ljex or commander) won 17 of 20 3 player games where both participated (85%).

here are the games that you didnt won:

Game 6560721
Game 6579179
Game 6584797
and some highlight from chats of these games:
Game 6560721:
ljex: congrats on another win commander
ljex: how did you lose
ljex: you shouldnt have cashed
ljex: you need to block him fast...

Game 6579179:
ljex: commander what are we going to do about the current situation
commander: just start attacking him, ljex....

Game 6584797:
commander: the guy is 17 for 133 do you really think he's smart enough to do this deliberately?
commander: I've lost over a dozen speed freestyles due to accidental deadbeat
- so in third game commander says why he attacked ljex, because he expected third player deadbeat.


so 85% of win and non-successful dealings in the games that you lost? enough to anybody to conclude if you were together in these games or not. you shouldnt be obvious in cheating, that s why you lost some games, because if you were obvious in attacking third player, you would probably be reported in C&A reports.

ok, I concluded wrong that it was for rank, but probably it was then for medals, with deal that both of you will win about half of the games. I just hate when somebody dont play fairly, and I noticed these games were probably not played with fair behavior to the 3rd player, according to highlights from game chats that I wrote here and % of games that somebody of you won (85%).

Fixed game links

You take quotes that only help your cause. While if you notice in one of the chats listed i say that i already have my assassin medal so what would be the point of me joining to get my medal. Also in that same game commander already has the third person as a unique so why would i join to help him win? There would be no point to me joining aside from the fact that i wanted to play the game...

Also for the one where the 3rd player misses his turn and commander attacks me, not his target, the only thing that stopped me from yelling at commander62890 and foeing him is that i know him in real life and we play team games all the time together as i viewed that move as cheep tactics.

Im going to refer you to my previous comment about our win percentages where I win 51% and he wins 53% if we win less percentage of games together and will only get 1 unique (max) instead of 2 unique (max) why in the world would we want to play games together in order to get medals? It wouldn't make any seance for us to do so right?

NOW PLEASE, before you accuse someone of cheating have some concrete evidence that they at least benefited in some way from playing the games together as everything points to the fact that we in fact were worse off because of playing these games together as when there are 2 players good at a game they will often try to make the other weaker to give themselves and advantage and in fact give themselves a disadvantage in the process. One of the reasons we were both able to have a high winning percentage is because we knew the strategy, go for bonuses that are easy to get in the last 10 seconds. Well when we were in the same games i would do my best to not let him get a bonus and he would do the same where as in a regular game we could easily get 1 maybe even 2 or 3 bonuses when the other players would end early in the round and every good player knows its beneficial to go last in speed freestyle games. I really don't see how you could be so wrapped up in the fact that you think we were cheating that you don't realize how the evidence you are providing is not in your favor but ours...

[Commander62890]

First of all, you obviously did not read my post carefully, as you do not understand how to get medals. You can only get medals be getting UNIQUE kills; therefore, once I have killed Ljex in an assassin game, beating him again will get me nothing but points. That is why, when I was going for medals (I am done now), I usually DID NOT want to play with him. We often had open speed games with the exact same settings up at the same time, both of us unwilling to join the others' game because it would be a waste of time (even a win wouldn't help us get our medal). We only joined each others' games when we were bored because no one else was joining up... and sometimes he joined mine just to piss me off (since I wanted a unique kill, which he wasn't).


You think that one of us winning 17 of 20 games together is astonishing? Ha!
Only 1 of those games was not Freestyle Speed 3 player games, so we will knock out the casual games here:

We each won 8 of those 19 games for 42%

Here is our stats when not playing with each other on these settings (brace yourself - yes, we are fucking awesome):
Comm- 197 for 371 (53%)
Ljex- 227 for 452 (50%)


Your analysis of the data is actually the OPPOSITE of the truth! We have LOWER win ratios when playing against each other! You idiot!



Additionally, I play only 5% of my games on this setting with him and he plays only 4% with me, pretty much rendering all of this data useless. You, sir, are beyond retarded.

[josko.ri]

Fixed game links

You take quotes that only help your cause.

no, I take quotes from the games that you lost, to see how you make dealings when games went to third side. and, ljex you mention that you joined in some games, but you didnt evidence it with game number. I evidenced every my quotation with game number, so it can be easily checked.

Also for the one where the 3rd player misses his turn and commander attacks me, not his target, the only thing that stopped me from yelling at commander62890 and foeing him is that i know him in real life and we play team games all the time together as i viewed that move as cheep tactics.

yeah because he expected to deadbeat, but that player surprised you both.

Im going to refer you to my previous comment about our win percentages where I win 51% and he wins 53% if we win less percentage of games together and will only get 1 unique (max) instead of 2 unique (max) why in the world would we want to play games together in order to get medals? It wouldn't make any seance for us to do so right?

so you are so dumb that cant compare 2 % of winning? you cant compare 51% and 53% with % of games played together. in games played together you could achieve maximum 50% each, if both won half games, cant you? so, good view to compare percentages is that you have 52% (middle of 53 and 51) when no play together, and 85%(17/20) when play together. it is big difference.

NOW PLEASE, before you accuse someone of cheating have some concrete evidence

I gave concrete evidence in last post, so anybody with sense of logic could conclude if it is in your favor or not.

First of all, you obviously did not read my post carefully, as you do not understand how to get medals. You can only get medals be getting UNIQUE kills; therefore, once I have killed Ljex in an assassin game, beating him again will get me nothing but points. That is why, when I was going for medals (I am done now), I usually DID NOT want to play with him. We often had open speed games with the exact same settings up at the same time, both of us unwilling to join the others' game because it would be a waste of time (even a win wouldn't help us get our medal). We only joined each others' games when we were bored because no one else was joining up... and sometimes he joined mine just to piss me off (since I wanted a unique kill, which he wasn't).

maybe 3rd player was unique sometimes for him, sometimes for you and that fact caused decision who will win of you.

We each won 8 of those 19 games for 42%

Here is our stats when not playing with each other on these settings (brace yourself - yes, we are fucking awesome):
Comm- 197 for 371 (53%)
Ljex- 227 for 452 (50%)


Your analysis of the data is actually the OPPOSITE of the truth! We have LOWER win ratios when playing against each other! You idiot!

again, like ljex, you dont have any sense for statistics. MAXIMUM that you could achieve in games that was played together is 50% each player, which is less than 53% and 50%, so how can these two percentages be for comparing?

for comparing is reliable: when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
awesome difference more than 30% I can see.

[Commander62890]

Also for the one where the 3rd player misses his turn and commander attacks me, not his target, the only thing that stopped me from yelling at commander62890 and foeing him is that i know him in real life and we play team games all the time together as i viewed that move as cheep tactics.

yeah because he expected to deadbeat, but that player surprised you both.

What does this have to do with anything? We expect to be playing a fair game, and then a player deadbeats 2 turns. Ever played speed 3-mans? The appropriate protocol in that situation is to wait 3 turns until that player deadbeats out before you attack. Because if you attack earlier and the deadbeater comes back, he wins. Well, I belived he would not come back (he was a cook with 90% attendance, I think), so I attacked Ljex after the cook missed only 2 turns, a cheap tactic in Ljex's (and many others') eyes. The cook promptly came back and won. What does this have to do with us playing together?

We each won 8 of those 19 games for 42%

Here is our stats when not playing with each other on these settings (brace yourself - yes, we are fucking awesome):
Comm- 197 for 371 (53%)
Ljex- 227 for 452 (50%)


Your analysis of the data is actually the OPPOSITE of the truth! We have LOWER win ratios when playing against each other! You idiot!

again, like ljex, you dont have any sense for statistics. MAXIMUM that you could achieve in games that was played together is 50% each player, which is less than 53% and 50%, so how can these two percentages be for comparing?

for comparing is reliable: when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
awesome difference more than 30% I can see.

Not sure where you're going wrong with your calculations... do you not see that we each have a better winning percentage playing alone than we do together? Pretend you're me. I win 42% of the time in a game with Ljex and 53% of the time in a game without him. Which game would I rather play? Right, the game he's not in, because he is a good player and he lowers my winning percentage (by beating me more often than the average player).

I'm not really sure where you're going wrong... I think it's because, when you added our "playing together" percentages (42%+42%=84%), you simply added them. When you added the "playing alone" percentages, you added and divided by 2 (51%+53%/2=52%). You can't do that and pretend that you're accurately comparing two numbers. You need to either divide both sides by 2 or divide neither side by 2. But make a decision.

Can you file a C+A report against us? Pretty please? You can use your mind-blowing 85% and 52% stats!!! OMG difference of 30%? Ban them!

[josko.ri]

Also for the one where the 3rd player misses his turn and commander attacks me, not his target, the only thing that stopped me from yelling at commander62890 and foeing him is that i know him in real life and we play team games all the time together as i viewed that move as cheep tactics.

yeah because he expected to deadbeat, but that player surprised you both.

What does this have to do with anything? We expect to be playing a fair game, and then a player deadbeats 2 turns. Ever played speed 3-mans? The appropriate protocol in that situation is to wait 3 turns until that player deadbeats out before you attack. Because if you attack earlier and the deadbeater comes back, he wins. Well, I belived he would not come back (he was a cook with 90% attendance, I think), so I attacked Ljex after the cook missed only 2 turns, a cheap tactic in Ljex's (and many others') eyes. The cook promptly came back and won. What does this have to do with us playing together?

I didnt mean exactly that situation. there was you or ljex win on your eyes because you thought 3rd player will be deadbeat. but I thought in other situations, you always looked "let's win me or ljex, no 3rd player", and he also, that s why so big % you have playing together.

what about:
game 6560721:
ljex: congrats on another win commander
ljex: how did you lose
ljex: you shouldnt have cashed
ljex: you need to block him fast...

game 6579179:
ljex: commander what are we going to do about the current situation
commander: just start attacking him, ljex....

We each won 8 of those 19 games for 42%

Here is our stats when not playing with each other on these settings (brace yourself - yes, we are fucking awesome):
Comm- 197 for 371 (53%)
Ljex- 227 for 452 (50%)


Your analysis of the data is actually the OPPOSITE of the truth! We have LOWER win ratios when playing against each other! You idiot!

again, like ljex, you dont have any sense for statistics. MAXIMUM that you could achieve in games that was played together is 50% each player, which is less than 53% and 50%, so how can these two percentages be for comparing?

for comparing is reliable: when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
awesome difference more than 30% I can see.

Not sure where you're going wrong with your calculations... do you not see that we each have a better winning percentage playing alone than we do together? Pretend you're me. I win 42% of the time in a game with Ljex and 53% of the time in a game without him. Which game would I rather play? Right, the game he's not in, because he is a good player and he lowers my winning percentage (by beating me more often than the average player).

I'm not really sure where you're going wrong... I think it's because, when you added our "playing together" percentages (42%+42%=84%), you simply added them. When you added the "playing alone" percentages, you added and divided by 2 (51%+53%/2=52%). You can't do that and pretend that you're accurately comparing two numbers. You need to either divide both sides by 2 or divide neither side by 2. But make a decision.

the logic is "if we play alone, somebody of us will probably have 51,5% of winning (average between 53 and 50). if we play together, somebody of us will have 85% of winning, so let s play together"


your logic is not for comparing because you couldnt have more than 53, 50% when play together in the game. even if you win all together games, you could have 50-50% of win , or 53-47% or 60-40%, which can never be more than 53,50 =103%. the reason is simple, you cant have more than 50% in average because if you won he will lost. but, when you play together, once you will won, other time he will won and at all you both will be in positive series.

I am sure if me and my friend plays 10000000 3- player games, we will for sure be 1st and 2nd on scoreboard because our points will always be divided by us and points from 3rd player would always make our points higher. of course, nor me not my friend wouldnt have more than 50% of win.

that s why it is reliable for comparing:
when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
424=197+227 (games won by you and ljex), 823 = 371+452 (games played by you and ljex).

when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
17 (games won by you and ljex together), 20 (games played by you and ljex together)

[Commander62890]

your logic is not for comparing because you couldnt have more than 53, 50% when play together in the game. even if you win all together games, you could have 50-50% of win , or 53-47% or 60-40%, which can never be more than 53,50 =103%. the reason is simple, you cant have more than 50% in average because if you won he will lost. but, when you play together, once you will won, other time he will won and at all you both will be in positive series.

This is true. If we were to play 1,000,000 3-player games, and cheat so that one of us always won, then yes, we could be 1st and 2nd on the scoreboard. We wouldn't make it that far, though, because CC would kick us out first.

that s why it is reliable for comparing:
when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
424=197+227 (games won by you and ljex), 823 = 371+452 (games played by you and ljex).

when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
17 (games won by you and ljex together), 20 (games played by you and ljex together)

Aha! I understand it now. You are comparing statistics that CAN be compared. However, are comparing the wrong stats, and therefore you came out with incorrect conclusions.

Playing together INDIVIDUAL stats: 42% (Me), 42% (Ljex)
Playing alone INDIVIDUAL stats: 53% (Me), 51% (Ljex)

And here's the clincher:

Playing together COMBINED stats: 84%
Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104% (error)

It is literally impossible for us to do as well as we do when playing together as we do when playing separately. It is impossible to win more games playing together than we do separately, and therefore, we have no incentive to play together. Thanks for clearing this up. 52% and 84% = NOT COMPARABLE, YOU IDIOT. Do you understand now?

[josko.ri]

your logic is not for comparing because you couldnt have more than 53, 50% when play together in the game. even if you win all together games, you could have 50-50% of win , or 53-47% or 60-40%, which can never be more than 53,50 =103%. the reason is simple, you cant have more than 50% in average because if you won he will lost. but, when you play together, once you will won, other time he will won and at all you both will be in positive series.

This is true. If we were to play 1,000,000 3-player games, and cheat so that one of us always won, then yes, we could be 1st and 2nd on the scoreboard. We wouldn't make it that far, though, because CC would kick us out first.

that s exactly what you did. only difference is that you didnt play 1,000,000 games, you played only 20.

that s why it is reliable for comparing:
when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
424=197+227 (games won by you and ljex), 823 = 371+452 (games played by you and ljex).

when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
17 (games won by you and ljex together), 20 (games played by you and ljex together)

Aha! I understand it now. You are comparing statistics that CAN be compared. However, are comparing the wrong stats, and therefore you came out with incorrect conclusions.

Playing together INDIVIDUAL stats: 42% (Me), 42% (Ljex)
Playing alone INDIVIDUAL stats: 53% (Me), 51% (Ljex)

And here's the clincher:

Playing together COMBINED stats: 84%
Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104% (error)

It is literally impossible for us to do as well as we do when playing together as we do when playing separately. It is impossible to win more games playing together than we do separately, and therefore, we have no incentive to play together. Thanks for clearing this up. 52% and 84% = NOT COMPARABLE, YOU IDIOT. Do you understand now?

ok, you again compare something that cant be compared, so I will explain you again...
when you play alone, you have 53%, ljex has 51%. but, maximum here is 100% for both, which means that you theoretically can have 100(you)+100(ljex)=200%. so if you look at your both statistics, you have 104 (achieved)/200 (max possible) = 52%.

when you play together, maximum that you both can achieve is 100%, not 200%. because, you can have maximum 50+50 or 40+60 or 70+30... you CANT have both 100% when playing together, but you CAN have both 100% when playing alone.
so ,you achieved 42,5%+42,5% = 85% of maximum possible of 100.

so 85/100 = 85% (when playing together), while 104/200 = 52% (when playing alone).

so,
Playing together COMBINED stats: 85% (achieved)/100% (max possible) = 85%
Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104%(achieved)/200%(max possible) = 52%

I hope you understand now which is the difference.

[josko.ri]

another interesting thing... your last 3 player game where you were together was 31st of March. it was game 6731942.
check game 6720344 chat. there I played with ljex and said to him: "it is not so hard to achieve colonel rank if you play 3-players terminator games with one friend (that you together play doubles) and one unknown player"

interesting, it was 2nd of April, only 2 days after your last 3 player game together. so, you played these 3 player games together hoping that nobody will notice it and when ljex saw that I noticed that cheating then you stopped playing?

[ljex]

your logic is not for comparing because you couldnt have more than 53, 50% when play together in the game. even if you win all together games, you could have 50-50% of win , or 53-47% or 60-40%, which can never be more than 53,50 =103%. the reason is simple, you cant have more than 50% in average because if you won he will lost. but, when you play together, once you will won, other time he will won and at all you both will be in positive series.

This is true. If we were to play 1,000,000 3-player games, and cheat so that one of us always won, then yes, we could be 1st and 2nd on the scoreboard. We wouldn't make it that far, though, because CC would kick us out first.

that s exactly what you did. only difference is that you didnt play 1,000,000 games, you played only 20.

that s why it is reliable for comparing:
when playing alone you both have 424/823 = 51,5%
424=197+227 (games won by you and ljex), 823 = 371+452 (games played by you and ljex).

when playing together you both have 17/20 = 85%
17 (games won by you and ljex together), 20 (games played by you and ljex together)

Aha! I understand it now. You are comparing statistics that CAN be compared. However, are comparing the wrong stats, and therefore you came out with incorrect conclusions.

Playing together INDIVIDUAL stats: 42% (Me), 42% (Ljex)
Playing alone INDIVIDUAL stats: 53% (Me), 51% (Ljex)

And here's the clincher:

Playing together COMBINED stats: 84%
Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104% (error)

It is literally impossible for us to do as well as we do when playing together as we do when playing separately. It is impossible to win more games playing together than we do separately, and therefore, we have no incentive to play together. Thanks for clearing this up. 52% and 84% = NOT COMPARABLE, YOU IDIOT. Do you understand now?

ok, you again compare something that cant be compared, so I will explain you again...
when you play alone, you have 53%, ljex has 51%. but, maximum here is 100% for both, which means that you theoretically can have 100(you)+100(ljex)=200%. so if you look at your both statistics, you have 104 (achieved)/200 (max possible) = 52%.

when you play together, maximum that you both can achieve is 100%, not 200%. because, you can have maximum 50+50 or 40+60 or 70+30... you CANT have both 100% when playing together, but you CAN have both 100% when playing alone.
so ,you achieved 42,5%+42,5% = 85% of maximum possible of 100.

so 85/100 = 85% (when playing together), while 104/200 = 52% (when playing alone).

so,
Playing together COMBINED stats: 85% (achieved)/100% (max possible) = 85%
Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104%(achieved)/200%(max possible) = 52%

I hope you understand now which is the difference.

1 question, Are you a fucking moron, there is literally no incentive for us to play together as we as individuals win less games when playing together what does winning more as a team do for our individual stats. It lowers our individual win percentage, doesn't gain us points and it takes longer to get medals with this strategy. What would be our incentive to cheat...

Notice the bolder/underline section where it says if, also IF we were to cheat with this strategy i would think we would play more than 18 games or what is the point we can get the medals/score/whatever elsewhere.

"Playing alone COMBINED stats: 104%(achieved)/200%(max possible) = 52%" YOU MUST BE A FUCKING MORON TO MAKE THIS ARGUMENT. Inherently 100% means everything thus you can not have a percentage larger than 100 or do you not understand the simple fact that 100 out of100 is 100 percent. How the f*ck can you have 200 out of 100 which would be 200 percent. If you were given a question what percentage of apples are red if 200 out of 100 are red would you think to yourself 200% or that's impossible...

another interesting thing... your last 3 player game where you were together was 31st of March. it was game 6731942.
check game 6720344 chat. there I played with ljex and said to him: "it is not so hard to achieve colonel rank if you play 3-players terminator games with one friend (that you together play doubles) and one unknown player"

interesting, it was 2nd of April, only 2 days after your last 3 player game together. so, you played these 3 player games together hoping that nobody will notice it and when ljex saw that I noticed that cheating then you stopped playing?

Yep it could be that, or it could be that i started playing 8 player sequential escalating terminator for my medal (at some point it gets hard to get unique defeats as you have already defeated any opponents that will join a certain type of game) and i already had my assassin medal. Also commander62890 got his medals Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:09 pm (Terminator) and Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:03 am (Assassin). Commander62890 was only playing these games for medals so as soon as he got them he went back to playing team games and tournaments. It is also of note that 4 of my last 6 are with commander62890 when he asked me to join because it was dead and he just wanted them to fill so he would have a possibility of 1 unique defeat. The other 2 were me playing classic terminator freestyle which i tried a few games of to see if i liked it however i didn't enjoy the games that much so i stopped playing those settings.

[Commander62890]

another interesting thing... your last 3 player game where you were together was 31st of March. it was Game 6731942.
check Game 6720344 chat. there I played with ljex and said to him: "it is not so hard to achieve colonel rank if you play 3-players terminator games with one friend (that you together play doubles) and one unknown player"

interesting, it was 2nd of April, only 2 days after your last 3 player game together. so, you played these 3 player games together hoping that nobody will notice it and when ljex saw that I noticed that cheating then you stopped playing?

First, I must emphasize that I played with him in only 5% of my games on this setting. Additionally, it's not even like these 19 games were in a row. They were spaced out, random, between the rest of our games. Together, we won 16 of the 19 (84%). Even if we were looking to cheat, how would taking 16 (8 each) people's points help us when we must have played about 500 (if not 1,000+) other games during that time span?

I did not know of your beef with Ljex and I until yesterday. As you can see from my wall, I finished my medals on April 2 (where have I seen this date before?) and have not played a FS speed games since.

I love that you think you had something to do with this, though!

Please, like I said before, open up a C+A report about us. You've been watching us for about a month now, and enough is enough! Get us banned and be done with it. Because of our blatant cheating, we are a menace to this website. Our 9,149 games that we did not cheat in are marred and overshadowed by the 20 in which we did cheat. Not that we did; Just making a point.

Go ahead, make my day.

[josko.ri]

I think I cant put you on C&A because I didnt participated in these games, I just watched it. but I will check if I can report you. I hate cheaters.

one obvious evidence of cheating:

game 6456180: assasin game.
from gamechat:
commander: "BG's a unique kill, tho", which was enough for ljex to conclude that it will be commander's game, because 3rd player was his unique player.

and game finished like that:
Incrementing game to round 5
2010-02-13 05:05:12 - ljex received 3 troops for 8 regions
2010-02-13 05:05:14 - ljex deployed 3 troops on Sarah Desert
2010-02-13 05:05:15 - ljex assaulted Conga from Sarah Desert and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:22 - Commander62890 received 3 troops for 6 regions
2010-02-13 05:05:38 - Commander62890 deployed 3 troops on Europe
2010-02-13 05:05:38 - Commander62890 assaulted UK from Europe and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:41 - Commander62890 assaulted Greenland from UK and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:46 - Commander62890 assaulted USA from Greenland and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:46 - Commander62890 eliminated ~barnygumble~ from the game

so ljex, even if commander was your target in assasin game, you helped him to kill green by attacking green in last turn? when you eliminated green from conga, commander had easy job to finish him.

[ljex]

I think I cant put you on C&A because I didnt participated in these games, I just watched it. but I will check if I can report you. I hate cheaters.

one obvious evidence of cheating:

game 645618: assasin game.
from gamechat:
commander: "BG's a unique kill, tho", which was enough for ljex to conclude that it will be commander's game, because 3rd player was his unique player.

and game finished like that:
Incrementing game to round 5
2010-02-13 05:05:12 - ljex received 3 troops for 8 regions
2010-02-13 05:05:14 - ljex deployed 3 troops on Sarah Desert
2010-02-13 05:05:15 - ljex assaulted Conga from Sarah Desert and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:22 - Commander62890 received 3 troops for 6 regions
2010-02-13 05:05:38 - Commander62890 deployed 3 troops on Europe
2010-02-13 05:05:38 - Commander62890 assaulted UK from Europe and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:41 - Commander62890 assaulted Greenland from UK and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:46 - Commander62890 assaulted USA from Greenland and conquered it from ~barnygumble~
2010-02-13 05:05:46 - Commander62890 eliminated ~barnygumble~ from the game

so ljex, even if commander was your target in assasin game, you helped him to kill green by attacking green in last turn? when you eliminated green from conga, commander had easy job to finish him.

1) you can report us if you were not in the games so please do...i cant wait for it
2) that is not a game number of an actual game "no matching games found" is what displayes
3) please use game links to make things easier...[Game][/Game] put the game # only in between those to make game links

[Commander62890]

3 things

1) You can still put in C+A even if you didn't participate
2) There is no Game 645618
3) When you post a game, use this: [Game][/Game], and put the game # inside the brackets.


EDIT: HAHAHAHA wow Ljex totally just fastposted me and we typed the same thing

[ljex]

3 things

1) You can still put in C+A even if you didn't participate
2) There is no Game 645618
3) When you post a game, use this: [Game][/Game], and put the game # inside the brackets.


EDIT: HAHAHAHA wow Ljex totally just fastposted me and we typed the same thing

That is one of the most epic things i have ever seen

[josko.ri]

sorry wrong game. right game is Game 6456180.

1)ok, I will do it then as soon as possible, probably tomorrow.