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We need people to stop popping into a new map makers thread, listing ten complaints, saying "Well, from my experience with other maps", then disappearing.
1) Why is it acceptable in the foundry for anyone to refer to another person's creative work as shit? Seriously, someone, answer me that? I don't care if Mibi and Porkenbeans don't get along. How is that acceptable? Between two adults, no less?
2) Why are other threads moderated to be on topic, but in the Foundry I get to hear about 20 other maps and past vendettas in each thread?
3) Why do map makers ignore helpful community comments to debate opacity brush settings and if the fact that an old map uses 49%, then this map can't use 48%?
4) Why do maps start out with fledgling support, scratching along tooth and nail, then some experienced map maker comes in and offers a laundry list of foundry to-dos, then disappears? If you are going to use your experience or knowledge to promote your ideas, then do it with some meaning. We need people to stop popping into a new map makers thread, listing ten complaints, saying "Well, from my experience with other maps", then disappearing.
5) Why does the foundry spend so much time discouraging new map makers? Why not give them the tools? Think about it, the revamp contests are cool, but really, it is the same 6 people who really have any sort of chance. Why would I even try when I know there are at least 5 people who will definitely do a better job than me?
6) Why do mapmakers always whine about maps not quenching fast enough? Oh wait, I guess just because this is CC and we already whine about Sugs and Bugs not moving fast enough, C&A not moving fast enough...
SuicidalSnowman wrote:4) Why do maps start out with fledgling support, scratching along tooth and nail, then some experienced map maker comes in and offers a laundry list of foundry to-dos, then disappears? If you are going to use your experience or knowledge to promote your ideas, then do it with some meaning. We need people to stop popping into a new map makers thread, listing ten complaints, saying "Well, from my experience with other maps", then disappearing.
the.killing.44 wrote: ... if a mapper has gone through the process (something people oft forget when calling us elitist) to get a map quenched, doesn't that mean that the mapper knows what the Foundry, CC, and the "community" is looking for?
ender516 wrote:You get two out of three for that one. Yes, a mapper with a quench under the belt must have some idea of what the Foundry and CC (meaning the admins) want, but it is no indication of connection with the community. And why do you use those quotation marks? Are you trying to express irony? Do you not believe that there is a CC community? Perhaps you believe that there is one, but not one worth recognizing? Pardon me, but your "elitism" is showing. (And yes, I am being ironic. I'm not sure you are being elitist here, but I believe it is this kind of remark that has earned the Foundry its reputation. As was stated earlier, tone is hard to pick up from text.)
I watched that Martha Stuart video, and kinda liked that guy she was interviewing. I think that if I met him in real life,we could have a beer or two, and I would teach him how to shoot some pool, and he would show me a thing or two about photoshop.mibi wrote:Can't we all just act like adults (myself excluded).
porkenbeans wrote:I watched that Martha Stuart video, and kinda liked that guy she was interviewing. I think that if I met him in real life,we could have a beer or two, and I would teach him how to shoot some pool, and he would show me a thing or two about photoshop.mibi wrote:Can't we all just act like adults (myself excluded).
SuicidalSnowman wrote:Anyways, the whole point wasn't necessarily to stir up anyone's feathers or prove that I know this stuff better than you guys. I just want to let you guys know what someone a little more outside the fray thinks.
Thanks for listening. Hopefully we can toast to a new and improved Foundry this new year.
Cheers,
-Snow
SuicidalSnowman wrote:I was also very active in the Research and Conquer thread, and I still await the day that gets properly revived.
captainwalrus wrote:No, most of your stuff was derailed because the graphics were bad, (i.e. Cohan)
If you can be more specific, I would like to respond to this.WidowMakers wrote:captainwalrus wrote:No, most of your stuff was derailed because the graphics were bad, (i.e. Cohan)
I would replace bad with " not as good as they should be, confusing, hard to understand , or poorly executed"
People did not dislike the concepts (theme, GP) but how they were visually represented
porkenbeans wrote:If you can be more specific, I would like to respond to this.WidowMakers wrote:captainwalrus wrote:No, most of your stuff was derailed because the graphics were bad, (i.e. Cohan)
I would replace bad with " not as good as they should be, confusing, hard to understand , or poorly executed"
People did not dislike the concepts (theme, GP) but how they were visually represented
I happen to be the OP, and I believe that this discussion is on topic, and relevant to the conversation.captainwalrus wrote:porkenbeans wrote:If you can be more specific, I would like to respond to this.WidowMakers wrote:captainwalrus wrote:No, most of your stuff was derailed because the graphics were bad, (i.e. Cohan)
I would replace bad with " not as good as they should be, confusing, hard to understand , or poorly executed"
People did not dislike the concepts (theme, GP) but how they were visually represented
This isn't the thread for that. Mibi said a lot of what was wrong in the thread, and so did other people. Look there, don't waste others' time with your complaints.
porkenbeans wrote:I am talking about all those maps that just died in the Foundry for lack of support. The word "support" is a misnomer. It only means Foundry support, not community support.
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