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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
i hope these are better for you nowisaiah40 wrote:I don't like that glow, it makes the icons look like they are pasted on, and not part of the map.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.
Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.
Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.

Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
pnb, that is one of the most constructive posts i've seen in a long time and i thank you, sincerely for taking the time to show what you mean.porkenbeans wrote:Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.![]()
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.
Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.
I don't know if i can do some of that in Coreldraw, but i'll give it a go.
Watch this space.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
I too like the depth added by the shading. Basically it is the next step on the same path that was started with version 24. I doubt you could take it much further in this direction, but I look forward to seeing your take on this, cairnswk.cairnswk wrote:pnb, that is one of the most constructive posts i've seen in a long time and i thank you, sincerely for taking the time to show what you mean.porkenbeans wrote:Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.![]()
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.
Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.I like the way that inset lifted the legend away from the map.
I don't know if i can do some of that in Coreldraw, but i'll give it a go.
Watch this space.
Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
These images look pretty good to me.cairnswk wrote:![]()
I'd caution against suggesting any overhauls now - maybe a slight tweak here or there could be beneficial, but I think you need to be careful not to overdo things.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.
Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
Cheers isaiah40isaiah40 wrote:...
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Congrats cairns!! Finally!!
Thanks for FF MrBenn.MrBenn wrote:...
These images look pretty good to me.
I'd caution against suggesting any overhauls now - maybe a slight tweak here or there could be beneficial, but I think you need to be careful not to overdo things.
I'd like to propose V29 be accpeted...it's as far as i'd want to go with that depth charge of pnb's.
And having said that, could you advise what tweaks you you were thinking of MrBenn please.
EDIT: I've dropped the shadow back by 50%. I think this should be OK now?

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
Is V29 suitable above...44?the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
I'd go back to v28, personally.cairnswk wrote:Is V29 suitable above...44?the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.
Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V28 (P21) Enlarged Map Icons
OK, I've dropped the shadow back to 50% transparency.....does it look any better? PLease f5 to see the changes above.the.killing.44 wrote:I'd go back to v28, personally.cairnswk wrote:Is V29 suitable above...44?the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
I'd reduce the size (and maybe distance) as well.
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Congrats on FF cairns, our first J Map 
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
dolomite13. some of the unit circles have been movd because of the increase in the icons.dolomite13 wrote:Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.
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Kngston Harbour & Falmouth are teh two that come to mind, but there is also centering issues to take care of as some of those units are off the mark.
Thanks.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
I will redo the unit locations this weekend as my GF is out of town sat & sun so I have plenty of time on my hands =)cairnswk wrote:dolomite13. some of the unit circles have been movd because of the increase in the icons.dolomite13 wrote:Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.
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Kngston Harbour & Falmouth are teh two that come to mind, but there is also centering issues to take care of as some of those units are off the mark.![]()
Thanks.
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
OK have a look at the coordinates etc ...
Please make a list of anything you see that needs to be changed =)
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Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml
"Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in jamaicaV29.xml (48 continents, 52 territories)"
Please make a list of anything you see that needs to be changed =)
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Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml
"Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in jamaicaV29.xml (48 continents, 52 territories)"
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
Dolomite13dolomite13 wrote:OK have a look at the coordinates etc ...
Please make a list of anything you see that needs to be changed =)
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Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml
"Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in jamaicaV29.xml (48 continents, 52 territories)"
there are major centering issues which require attention if you would please.
Can you recheck all the coordinates.

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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
Will do ... check the other things like connections and names and let me know if ya see any problems there.cairnswk wrote: Dolomite13
there are major centering issues which require attention if you would please.
Can you recheck all the coordinates.
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
I have been making updates to v29 of the xml for coordinates. So far I have adjusted the ships and the main land alphabetically through Morant... I will continue on this sometime this evening (I hope) =)
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
I centered a few more but not all of them yet... I only work 1/2 day tomorrow so I will finish them then.
Almost There =)
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
Thanks dolomite13dolomite13 wrote:I centered a few more but not all of them yet... I only work 1/2 day tomorrow so I will finish them then.
Almost There =)
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Re: Jamaica [D.GP.GR] V29 (P23) Final Forge :-)
OK it's ready to rock =)
Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml
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Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml
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