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natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
lostatlimbo wrote:The 9th draft is a big improvement and I like where this one is headed...
...But I don't like that you can't attack the same color - ESPECIALLY - since that is the objective of the game. If you cannot attack between the same color, you basically have to own half the board worth of 'blank' spaces in order to capture all of the 'filled' spaces.
AND - since the blank spaces can only attack vertically and horizontally (why not diagonally?), that makes the object of the game nearly impossible and basically becomes a "blackout" board. Hold 32 territories or BUST.
I understand the idea in staying true to Chess - but I think those two elements ruin the gameplay.
Here's hoping that gets resolved, because I really like this one and love the other unique gameplay elements.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
n00blet wrote:Woohooo!!!
I've been following this map for a while now. Only thing I'd suggest is bumping up the rook and queen bonuses so there's a difference in the bonus for bishop and rook, just for consistency's sake.
(If you wanted to get extra fancy you could give the knight a lower bonus than the bishop because the bishops are far more useful in this position, but that's another story.....)
natty_dread wrote:I was wrong
LED ZEPPELINER wrote:n00blet wrote:Woohooo!!!
I've been following this map for a while now. Only thing I'd suggest is bumping up the rook and queen bonuses so there's a difference in the bonus for bishop and rook, just for consistency's sake.
(If you wanted to get extra fancy you could give the knight a lower bonus than the bishop because the bishops are far more useful in this position, but that's another story.....)
in real chess, rooks and bishops are worth the same amount of points
Fire Mario wrote:I would adjust the bonuses a bit to maybe:
Pawn=1
Bishop/Knight=2
Rook=3
King/Queen=5
In real Chess, point values for each of the pieces for each of the pieces are as follows:
Pawn=1
Bishop=3
Knight=3
Rook=5
Queen=9
King=Priceless
I'd recommend changing the bonuses to reflect this.
the.killing.44 wrote:Queen ----- 9
Rook ------ 5
Bishop ----- 3
Knight ----- 3
Pawn ------ 1
He was probably thinking of a knight.
.44
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
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nazlfrag wrote:I went crazy and started counting more unusual attack routes, inspired by the 3 hop comment.
I put a * for each opposing force piece that can attack the square.
White
3 hop W Queen to H7*, H8*, G8 B King
3 hop W Queen to G6**, G7 B Pawn, G8 B King
3 hop W Bishop to F7 B Pawn, F8**, G8 B King
5 hop W Knight or W bishop to E6, E7*, E8*, F8**, G8 B King
5 hop W Knight to F5*, F6**, F7 B Pawn, F8**, G8 B King
5 hop G2 W Pawn to G4, G5*, G6*, G7 B Pawn, G8 B King
6 hop A5 W Rook to E5 B Bishop, E6, E7*, E8*, F8**, G8 B King (Bishop can't attack adjacent squares.)
6 hop H3 W Pawn to H4, H5 B Bishop, H6 B Pawn, H7*, H8*, G8 B King
6 Hop F2 W Pawn to F4*, F5*, F6**, F7 B Pawn, F8**, G8 B King
Black
2 hop B Queen to G2 W Pawn, G1 W King
3 hop E5 B Bishop to H2*, H1*, G1 W King
3 hop E5 B Bishop to G3*, G2 W Pawn, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop or B Queen to F3**, F2 W Pawn, G2 W Pawn, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop or B Queen to F3**, F2 W Pawn, F1***, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop to E2*, F2 W Pawn, F1***, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop to E2*, F2 W Pawn, G2 W Pawn, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop to E2*, E1*, F1***, G1 W King
4 hop H5 B Bishop to D1**, E1*, F1***, G1 W King (Pretty much same as the last one.)
5 hop G7 B Pawn to G5, G4*, G3*, G2 W Pawn, G1 W King
It's hardly an exhaustive list, but it's good enough for a rough comparison.
It seems black has more opportunities for shorter attacks, but not overwhelmingly as most paths need to bust the Pawns or deal with the Queen. Both are strongly defended on the left but weak on the right, white slightly stronger defensively thanks to the Queens proximity to the King. The white Rook attacking the left black Bishop also negates blacks offensive power a little, while Blacks two rook defenders make up for its lack of Queen defence on the left of the King. It seems fairly well balanced as both positions seem to have a fair share of advantages and weaknesses.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
Fire Mario wrote:King=Priceless
Gilligan wrote:If I remember my chess correctly, I think a pawn can only move 2 spaces when he is on his starting row.
iancanton wrote:Fire Mario wrote:King=Priceless
have u decided what bonus to give to the king? in fact, will there be an objective, such as hold both kings to win (obviously, they'll have to have a reasonably high number of neutrals, though not so high that they'll always be ignored)? it seems a bit off that the king's bonus at the moment is rather small - not in keeping with the object of chess.
ian.
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