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Postby KoolBak on Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:09 pm

OK..I gotta ask again - please dont hesitate to tell me if I am being obtuse / thick / dense / stoooooooopid.

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...

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Postby Hoff on Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:28 pm

i agree, that area looks very confusing. It looks like an obvious connection, but for some reason that connection does not exist. It really should be cleared up somehow
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Postby horizon on Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:50 pm

Hey there KoolBak - hope you are doing well:

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...


I've studied this map for a bit today and I think I have the answer. If you look closely, there is a light grey border running along the northern edge of the largish island that you think is Brunei. It would seem that Central Indonesia is actually BOTH the mostly dark gray blob to the right of the circle with the army number AND almost all of the orange island to the left of the circle with the army number. ONLY the very northern edge of that orange island is Brunei. Therefore, the dark grey line which appears to connect Sumatra to Brunei ACTUALLY connects Sumatra with Central Indonesia.

Clear as mud yet? PM me if you don't see it and maybe we can get in the chat and I can make more sense than I do in prose.
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Re: CC_Tester and World 2.0 map

Postby previsualconsent on Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:01 pm

horizon wrote:
f you use this guys tester
http://www.multiblah.com/cc_tester/
it makes connections very obvious
Map XML File:http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/World_2_0.xml
Map Large Image file:http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/World_2_0.L.jpg


When I use the tester, it cuts off the right edge of this particular map. Does anyone else have that problem?


Yea, i get the same thing. i looked at trying to fix it but i can't.
but i don't think anything thats cut off is too confusing, so yea
oh and bout the comment i made about posting every little quirk, must have been in a bad mood that day. i realize it is essential, but do read the thread first.
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Postby zim on Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:08 pm

horizon wrote:Hey there KoolBak - hope you are doing well:

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...


I've studied this map for a bit today and I think I have the answer. If you look closely, there is a light grey border running along the northern edge of the largish island that you think is Brunei. It would seem that Central Indonesia is actually BOTH the mostly dark gray blob to the right of the circle with the army number AND almost all of the orange island to the left of the circle with the army number. ONLY the very northern edge of that orange island is Brunei. Therefore, the dark grey line which appears to connect Sumatra to Brunei ACTUALLY connects Sumatra with Central Indonesia.

Clear as mud yet? PM me if you don't see it and maybe we can get in the chat and I can make more sense than I do in prose.


Horizon is correct and the fine rose of Texas is right it's not very clear.

Hopefully this will make my intent clear though it should be changed given the amount of confusion it has caused. I'll put it on the 2.1 todo list.

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Postby sully800 on Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:01 pm

One thing that should be changed as you clean that area up: The line connecting Sumatra to Java was never changed to the darker gray like the rest of the cross-sea connections.
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:16 pm

I think for next edit just make it Borneo, and chnage Central Indonesia to Sulawesi (the funny shaped island).
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Postby james1 on Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:43 pm

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Postby KoolBak on Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:00 am

Horizon and Zim - thank you very much - now I know! Love the map my friend, and by the way, it is unhealthy to refer to Texan Women as "He"...LOL!!!!

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Postby zim on Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:09 am

KoolBak wrote:Horizon and Zim - thank you very much - now I know! Love the map my friend, and by the way, it is unhealthy to refer to Texan Women as "He"...LOL!!!!

*pppsssst...horizon be a type F carbon unit*



KoolBak,

You must have me confused with some other suicidal fellow.

zim wrote:Horizon is correct and the fine rose of Texas is right it's not very clear.


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Postby Zackismet on Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:19 pm

please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra
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Postby zim on Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:02 pm

Zackismet wrote:please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra



Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

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Postby Wisse on Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:52 pm

zim wrote:
Zackismet wrote:please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra



Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

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mayby they can write it somewhere on the map so it is clearer, i didn't see it at al that i coun't attack from brunei
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Postby Zackismet on Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:18 pm

Zim wrote:
Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

Regards,

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mayby they can write it somewhere on the map so it is clearer, i didn't see it at al that i coun't attack from brunei



oh, thanks... someone in my game just explained that to me too =p :oops:
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Postby dcowboys055 on Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:50 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=124854

not sure if this is a "bug" but it says

receives 0 armies for holding antarctica

when its listing what bonuses i receive. it doesnt bother me but its kind of weird[/url]
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Postby Gilligan on Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:13 pm

I thought you were supposed to get 9 armies for holding all of Oceania?
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Postby Kegler on Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:40 pm

yes, the brunei, central indonesia, sumatra area does not work properly for attacking.
I attacked from central Indo to sumatra because it would not allow brunei to sumatra....It worked from central indo to sumatra, lol, but would not allow the advance of armies. I wanted to finish my goal of far east bonus.

Not sure if you have looked into this. :wink:

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Postby s.xkitten on Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:51 pm

Kegler wrote:yes, the brunei, central indonesia, sumatra area does not work properly for attacking.
I attacked from central Indo to sumatra because it would not allow brunei to sumatra....It worked from central indo to sumatra, lol, but would not allow the advance of armies. I wanted to finish my goal of far east bonus.

Not sure if you have looked into this. :wink:

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what the hell do people have against reading the threads before posting....you can't attack from sumatra to brunei...its sumatra to central indonesia...and then central indonesia to brunei...read the thread...he even posted a blown up part of the map for you.... :evil:
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Postby Molacole on Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:12 am

brunei - sumatra doesn't allow a fortification.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:19 am

Molacole wrote:brunei - sumatra doesn't allow a fortification.


lol,idd you not jsut read the previous post?!?! Brunei ad SUmatra do not border each other, you can even see on the map that they don't....
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Postby s.xkitten on Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:28 am

what do i have to do to get you guys to read it......look up two posts....look up look up look up.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby Heimdall on Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:04 am

I like the map except i just noticed that there's a bug. You can't attack Sumatra from Brunei for some reason.

I'm just kidding s.xkitten, just wanted to see if you would blow a fuse ;). Great map. It's one i want to play now. I think i got like 9 simultaneous games on it.
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Postby s.xkitten on Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:08 am

okay good...but not funny :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby sully800 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:18 am

Gilligan wrote:I thought you were supposed to get 9 armies for holding all of Oceania?


You do. The 9 total is not in addition to the 2 you get for Australia or the 4 for the East Indies. And since you are already holding each of them by holding the whole continent, the log will add those points and say 3 for holding Oceania....which gives you 9 total for holding Oceania
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Postby s.xkitten on Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:21 am

yeah, haven't gotten those three for a while now...
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