4V4T4R wrote:my cycling turn proposal was in response to people who thought that the nz's always going last would give the last player an unfair advantage. Since the nz's are supposed to be a game play feature, and thus should not give any player an unfair advantage, i concordantly proposed a cycling turn as a solution to this problem.
Even if it is a problem, I think your solution may well be flawed 4V4T4R.
In my quote of your solution I have added three things: First - an underline of the player playing 'last' - before the neutrals. Second - turn numbers behind square braces at the beginning of the line. Third - a count of 'how many turns have the neutrals had since my last turn?' at the end of the line.
4V4T4R's solution wrote:for example, in a three player game
round1:
1] player1 (0)
2] player2 (0)
3] player3 (0)
4] neutrals -
round2:
5] player1 (1)
6] player2 (1)
7] neutrals -
8] player3 (2)
round3:
9] player1 (1)
10] neutrals -
11] player2 (1)
12] player3 (1)
round4:(same as round 1)
13] player1 (1)
14] player2 (0)
15] player3 (0)
16] neutrals -
I am presuming that you
don't mean rounds would be r1, r2, r3, r4 - r1, r2, r3, r4, etc ... if you do mean this then you'll see player3 plays last twice as often as the others ... which doesn't solve the perceived problem.
Assuming instead that you mean r1, r2, r3 - r4, r2, r3 - r4, r2, r3 - r4, r2, r3 etc this still leaves a flaw ... you'll see at turn 8 that when player3 takes his turn the neutrals have played twice since his last turn - if you had zombie neighbours you wouldn't be pleased at not being able to do anything! And of course this happens every three rounds. Also you'll see that of all three players only player1 never has a turn (except in the very first round) where the zombies haven't played since his previous turn. And both the others do, every three rounds.
4V4T4R wrote:If you have a different idea of how to insure that this is balanced, let's hear it!
I do think that the existing suggestion is better balanced than this.
As I've said before; in some (normal) games I get to go first. In every round. And that's an advantage. But it's evened out over many games because I get a different turn in the game order in different games.
In some (infected neutral) games I will get to last and hence immediately before the zombies. In every round. And that's an advantage. But it's evened out over many games because I get a different turn in the game order in different games.
Cicero
[They don't call me "brief cicero" for nothing.
I have to pay them.]
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