two sugestions for fog of war

Mr_Adams · Post by **Mr_Adams** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:19 pm

1. Teritorys you aren't allowed to see get blank bubbles
2. If you can't see atleast one territory on a continent, don't show that someone gets a bonus for holding something in game log.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:20 pm

2 sounds ok

spiesr · Post by **spiesr** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:13 pm

What good is one?

Mr_Adams · Post by **Mr_Adams** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:53 pm

#1 would just be for looks

and for #2 maybe just don't show you how many units your opponet gets at all
show something like example recieves ? armies

don't say bonus, don't say number of teritories, just say you got your armies, and don't even specifie that #

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:02 pm

what the heck does one do lol? i like the ?'s

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:08 pm

I also think you should be able to see your partners' territs.

yamahafazer · Post by **yamahafazer** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:14 am

they seem like a good idea to me

benjikat · Post by **benjikat** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:50 am

ParadiceCity9 wrote:I also think you should be able to see your partners' territs.

You can already - but I think you shouldn't be able to!

Ishiro · Post by **Ishiro** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:43 am

Against (1), the bubbles are on the map, not in the code. So if the map does not have bubbles, it would just be blank, and on some maps you'd have a hard time telling what was a country and what wasn't.

Against (2), unless deployment is also hidden this won't matter because you can always do the math.

What currently shows is:

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives 5 armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives 3 armies for 8 territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed 8 armies on ?

What you are asking for is:

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives 3 armies for 8 territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed 8 armies on ?

In order for it to have any value, you need to hide deployments to unknown territories:

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives 3 armies for 8 territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed ? armies on ?

Of course, how could you know Player 1 has 8 territories? Should hide that too:

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for ? territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed ? armies on ?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:50 am

Ishiro wrote: Of course, how could you know Player 1 has 8 territories? Should hide that too:
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for ? territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed ? armies on ?

It could be (say you can see 12 enemy territories)...

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives at least 4 armies for at least 12 territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed ? armies on ?

C.

jennifermarie · Post by **jennifermarie** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:56 am

yeti_c wrote:
It could be (say you can see 12 enemy territories)...

2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives ? armies for holding ?
2007-10-31 16:40:23 - Player 1 receives at least 4 armies for at least 12 territories
2007-10-31 16:40:48 - Player 1 deployed ? armies on ?
C.

sounds great, it adds more suspense to the games

killer_ace3 · Post by **killer_ace3** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:26 am

agreed

Ilmion · Post by **Ilmion** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:15 pm

I think you should see what happen in a territory that is adjacent to one you control. I think you should also see in the log the name of the territories you losed. I don't have a enough big memory to remember the terrotories I had and whe I come back to see this :

2007-11-01 19:26:21 - Ennemy attacked ? from ? and conquered it from Ilmion

I have to look very carefully and remember what I had before, but when the attack occure, was my army not there to see from where it come and where it is ?

What do think ?

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:22 pm

Ilmion wrote:I think you should see what happen in a territory that is adjacent to one you control. I think you should also see in the log the name of the territories you losed. I don't have a enough big memory to remember the terrotories I had and whe I come back to see this :

2007-11-01 19:26:21 - Ennemy attacked ? from ? and conquered it from Ilmion

I have to look very carefully and remember what I had before, but when the attack occure, was my army not there to see from where it come and where it is ?

What do think ?

use note to self to watch certain territories you want and if you cant remember which territories you are wary about then it wasnt an important territory

yamahafazer · Post by **yamahafazer** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:13 am

Ilmion wrote:I think you should see what happen in a territory that is adjacent to one you control. I think you should also see in the log the name of the territories you losed. I don't have a enough big memory to remember the terrotories I had and whe I come back to see this :

2007-11-01 19:26:21 - Ennemy attacked ? from ? and conquered it from Ilmion

I have to look very carefully and remember what I had before, but when the attack occure, was my army not there to see from where it come and where it is ?

What do think ?

I would agree with Ilmion on this one.

BaldAdonis · Post by **BaldAdonis** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:00 am

Ishiro wrote:Of course, how could you know Player 1 has 8 territories? Should hide that too

But then the log wouldn't tell anything at all. It should give some information (how many territories, how many reinforcements), the fog just obscures what is currently on the map.

Mr_Adams · Post by **Mr_Adams** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:48 pm

well yes you should be able to see what happens to those territorys WHEN YOU OWNED IT. When you DON'T own it and it isn't shown on your screne AT the time no message regarding the territory should show up.

Krueger · Post by **Krueger** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:52 pm

Just have the game log say that Player1 received ? armies. That includes for the cards too, have it say that you turned in cards, but not what they were or how many armies you received.

(Player 1 turned in cards and received ? armies.)

Removing the armies received would add to the mystery of what is going on in the game and make it more fun.

two sugestions for fog of war

do you agree?

two sugestions for fog of war