Question for the Religious Types

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:18 pm

Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:37 pm

I'm not a religious type but they are all going to say 'no'.

Minister Masket · Post by **Minister Masket** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:37 pm

I give you the following quote:

"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof denies faith and without faith I am nothing"
God (apparently)

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:40 pm

I don't know... if I were to guess I'd say he does need it...

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:42 pm

But you're not a religious type, are you?

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:43 pm

MeDeFe wrote:But you're not a religious type, are you?

yes I am... just I don't remember learning about that subject

griffin_slayer · Post by **griffin_slayer** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:45 pm

The Kurgan wrote:Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>

no, he dosen't even need us.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:56 pm

I TOLD YOU SO!

Blastshot · Post by **Blastshot** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:56 pm

griffin_slayer wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:Does God need faith to survive? <Not a trick question, just wondering>
no, he dosen't even need us.

ditto,
he CREATED us, if he needed us there wouldnt be us, because he came before us.

Does that make sense?

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:06 pm

But then why did he create us?

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:14 pm

I'll let you play, Kurgan, don't be disappointed if the older kids win, though. We've had debates that have gone far over 1500 posts before they dropped off the first page of the board. Note that they weren't finished, people just stopped debating.

It'll never be finished.

Caleb the Cruel · Post by **Caleb the Cruel** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:16 pm

The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?

You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe.

No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:18 pm

MeDeFe wrote:We've had debates that have gone far over 1500 posts before they dropped off the first page of the board.

"Logic Dictates..." never dies, it just reappears as a new thread. Proof, if it were needed, of reincarnation!

Huckleberryhound · Post by **Huckleberryhound** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:22 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:23 pm

That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

dustn64 · Post by **dustn64** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:37 pm

Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

Blastshot · Post by **Blastshot** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:42 pm

dustn64 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.
No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

Where we'd be happy, then our dumb*ss ancestors f*cked it up...

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:43 pm

dustn64 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.
No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

To live in complete ignorance you mean.

Huckleberryhound · Post by **Huckleberryhound** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:44 pm

dustn64 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.

No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.

In my honest opinion, arguing about religion on the internet is like competing in the special olympics......win or lose, you're still a retard.

God's will, God's design - ergo, God's design flaws, god's fault.

I personally do not believe in a humanised version of a creator......end of.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:46 pm

The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.

whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:50 pm

cena-rules wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.
whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible

The Catholics don't think so. They believe the Protestants are going to Hell because :

1. They believe the Protestants are traitors.
2. Protestants don't confess.
3. Protestants don't listen to the Pope.

Huckleberryhound · Post by **Huckleberryhound** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:53 pm

The Kurgan wrote:
cena-rules wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:That's more the Catholic God though - testing Job and Moses.
whats the difference. The protestants and catholics worship the same god and bible
The Catholics don't think so. They believe the Protestants are going to Hell because :

1. They believe the Protestants are traitors.
2. Protestants don't confess.
3. Protestants don't listen to the Pope.

Not exactly true.

The catholic hierarchy think that all other christian faiths are not true faiths (including the orthadox religion for some silly reason), but i'm sure most of the flock don't really give a shit.

dustn64 · Post by **dustn64** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:57 pm

The Kurgan wrote:
dustn64 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.
No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.
To live in complete ignorance you mean.

Ignorance toward pain, suffering, and torture. I think I could live without it.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:58 pm

Minister Masket wrote:I give you the following quote:

"I refuse to prove that I exist, for proof denies faith and without faith I am nothing"
God (apparently)

i'd say this is pretty definite to be honest

The Kurgan · Post by **The Kurgan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:03 pm

dustn64 wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:
dustn64 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
The Kurgan wrote:But then why did he create us?
You'd get bored too if there was nothing else in the universe. No planets, stars, nor lifeforms. Just darkness.

Plus, aren't you happy that you exist? If you say no then you should've already killed yourself. If you are alive that means you are happy to be alive. muhuahuahuahuahuahu

So, you're trying to suggest that god Created man, makes him suffer, and judges him his reaction to this devine torment . . .because he was lonely

God is indeed a bastard.
No, he created us to live in the garden of eden.
To live in complete ignorance you mean.
Ignorance toward pain, suffering, and torture. I think I could live without it.

Pain, suffering and torture - yes.
But ignorance to true happiness as well.

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