Conquer Club

As has been well established by now, the Tea Party wants to ruin America all the time (WHY HOW DARE THEY!).

Well, GOD BLESS THE IRS, the last line of defense in the War for America's Soul that has been under constant attack by the Tea Party (a racist, violent, tax-evading organization).

As it turns out, there are numerous more organizations that need to be investigated by the IRS for Tea Party influenced tax evasion. What do you guys think? Should we all write thank you notes to the IRS for their brave defense against the Tea Party's attempts to ruin America?

http://www.politicususa.com/bad-news-re ... mined.html

Figures you would stick up for the government. Do you like having the government control everything you do rather than have the freedom to choose for yourself?

So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

This is why our society is in trouble. People like you.

No, it's because of people like you.

If only America new what the rest of the World thinks of them Change is Inevitable and will happen quicker because of the leadership decisions they have made...

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

But it certainly seems that Congress now exists to hold investigations of the executive branch rather than, you know, pass laws.

It is too bad that we don't have an organization in the government whose job it would be to determine whether laws had been violated and punish anyone who had done so.

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

But it certainly seems that Congress now exists to hold investigations of the executive branch rather than, you know, pass laws.

It is too bad that we don't have an organization in the government whose job it would be to investigate whether laws had been violated and punish anyone who had done so.

Well, considering it's the executive branch's job to investigate crimes, yet Obama puts Holder in charge of investigating himself, obviously an outside party needs to become involved. Plus, Congressional oversight of the executive branch is also their job. The executive branch doesn't have unlimited power once a law is passed by Congress.

The IRS does exist to go after people evading taxes, which is something the Tea Party promotes in their rhetoric. Investigating them for tax evasion is as obvious and thing to do as investing a drug dealer for trafficking illegal drugs.

Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

ooge wrote:Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

10/10

pimpdave wrote:The IRS does exist to go after people evading taxes, which is something the Tea Party promotes in their rhetoric. Investigating them for tax evasion is as obvious and thing to do as investing a drug dealer for trafficking illegal drugs.

I've never heard a Tea Party person recommending that people evade taxes (and the progressives would have posted it all over the media if it were true). Many actively campaign to change and simplify the tax code, but never to break the law.

ooge wrote:Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

Getting to keep more of your own money is not a subsidy. These groups exist on donations and do not work to make a profit, which is why they shouldn't have to pay taxes. The people who donate to 501c4 groups still have to pay taxes on those donations.

This is another us against them mentality. Its obvious that neither side will ever unite a nation with a split party system. Looks like most people in this forum are fighting for red or blue when it should be the little guy fighting the system of corrupt politicians run by major corporations fucking everyone. The IRS was never set up to help anyone. Its a bail out program for corporations or used to f*ck political opponents or used to persuade society at the ballot box. You think the IRS is to help you, you are as ignorant as a 2 year old. This country is fucked its just a matter of time.

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

But it certainly seems that Congress now exists to hold investigations of the executive branch rather than, you know, pass laws.

This is one of the benefits of having a Republican controlled house. It's a check on executive power. Imagine if the Democrats controlled the house, they wouldn't investigate anything (same in a Republican dominated Congress/Presidency).

That's why I voted Republican in 2012. To check and balance an out of control executive branch, which happens to be Democratic at the moment. You have to consider the situation you/we are in, and make the best decision at that time.

You can't spell heroism without the IRS.

Phatscotty wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

But it certainly seems that Congress now exists to hold investigations of the executive branch rather than, you know, pass laws.

This is one of the benefits of having a Republican controlled house. It's a check on executive power. Imagine if the Democrats controlled the house, they wouldn't investigate anything (same in a Republican dominated Congress/Presidency).

That's why I voted Republican in 2012. To check and balance an out of control executive branch, which happens to be Democratic at the moment. You have to consider the situation you/we are in, and make the best decision at that time.

one more thing. If the Republicans did not have the House of Representatives, there would be no reason to think we would even know about the IRS scandal right now. We only know because of repeated questions and hearings on the matter from the house of Reps, who would not have even been able to ask those questions if they did not control the the committees.

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:The IRS does exist to go after people evading taxes, which is something the Tea Party promotes in their rhetoric. Investigating them for tax evasion is as obvious and thing to do as investing a drug dealer for trafficking illegal drugs.

I've never heard a Tea Party person recommending that people evade taxes (and the progressives would have posted it all over the media if it were true). Many actively campaign to change and simplify the tax code, but never to break the law.

ooge wrote:Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

Getting to keep more of your own money is not a subsidy. These groups exist on donations and do not work to make a profit, which is why they shouldn't have to pay taxes. The people who donate to 501c4 groups still have to pay taxes on those donations.

Another 501c4 group THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE....tell me about non profit again..

Phatscotty wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:So you defend people choosing to commit crime and then choosing to get away with it? Figures you want to ruin America.

Nope, which is why I support Congress holding investigations of the actions by the IRS. The IRS does not exist to punish people who do not believe government-approved thoughts.

But it certainly seems that Congress now exists to hold investigations of the executive branch rather than, you know, pass laws.

This is one of the benefits of having a Republican controlled house. It's a check on executive power. Imagine if the Democrats controlled the house, they wouldn't investigate anything (same in a Republican dominated Congress/Presidency).

That's why I voted Republican in 2012. To check and balance an out of control executive branch, which happens to be Democratic at the moment. You have to consider the situation you/we are in, and make the best decision at that time.

one more thing. If the Republicans did not have the House of Representatives, there would be no reason to think we would even know about the IRS scandal right now. We only know because of repeated questions and hearings on the matter from the house of Reps, who would not have even been able to ask those questions if they did not control the the committees.

of course more Americans over 2 million voted for democratic house members over republican house members,yet the republicans hold the House,a rigged game.

ooge wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:The IRS does exist to go after people evading taxes, which is something the Tea Party promotes in their rhetoric. Investigating them for tax evasion is as obvious and thing to do as investing a drug dealer for trafficking illegal drugs.

I've never heard a Tea Party person recommending that people evade taxes (and the progressives would have posted it all over the media if it were true). Many actively campaign to change and simplify the tax code, but never to break the law.

ooge wrote:Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

Getting to keep more of your own money is not a subsidy. These groups exist on donations and do not work to make a profit, which is why they shouldn't have to pay taxes. The people who donate to 501c4 groups still have to pay taxes on those donations.

Another 501c4 group THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE....tell me about non profit again..

The fact that everyone keeps referring to these as "subsidies" even though they clearly aren't shows that they don't actually know what they're talking about (and Coburn usually does know). The explanation for how the NFL is non-profit makes sense, but it does sound like they actually deserve scrutiny unlike the everyday citizens who were targeted for speaking out against the government.

Night Strike wrote:

ooge wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:The IRS does exist to go after people evading taxes, which is something the Tea Party promotes in their rhetoric. Investigating them for tax evasion is as obvious and thing to do as investing a drug dealer for trafficking illegal drugs.

I've never heard a Tea Party person recommending that people evade taxes (and the progressives would have posted it all over the media if it were true). Many actively campaign to change and simplify the tax code, but never to break the law.

ooge wrote:Why do these TEA NIMRODS think the American tax payer should subsidize them with their demanding of being a tax exempt group.

Getting to keep more of your own money is not a subsidy. These groups exist on donations and do not work to make a profit, which is why they shouldn't have to pay taxes. The people who donate to 501c4 groups still have to pay taxes on those donations.

Another 501c4 group THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE....tell me about non profit again..

The fact that everyone keeps referring to these as "subsidies" even though they clearly aren't shows that they don't actually know what they're talking about (and Coburn usually does know). The explanation for how the NFL is non-profit makes sense, but it does sound like they actually deserve scrutiny unlike the everyday citizens who were targeted for speaking out against the government.

how about this then, change the law back to exclusively from primarily for social welfare programs.there by eliminating the NFL's 501c4 status along with a host of political groups both left and right, reducing the money that is in politics. Weather someone leans left or right they should agree there is to much money in politics.

Power and money are always going to go together. The only way to reduce the money is to reduce the power.

Wrong. Reduce the money. We reduced the power under the worst President in American history, Ronald Reagan, who gave away the power over the money, which let the money get hoarded by only a few, who turned around and used it to take power.

Ronald Reagan is as bad as the Tsars, a true Anti-American.

You mean Nixon since he took us off the gold standard.

pimpdave wrote:Wrong. Reduce the money.

lol

as long as a person or a party has the power to "help" corporations, the corporations are going to buy that "help" with money and favors, most likely both. If the government does not have the power to "help" corporations by creating special tax loopholes or releasing the divorce and tax records of their competitors, there would be no reason for the money to be there.

Reduce the demand for the money. there will be less money. The bigger the government grows, the more money they need. Growing government guarantees more money. It doesn't get any more obvious.