Adair410 & Joey3GA again [WARNED] KRK

[HaireWolf1]

Accused:

Joey3GA
Adair410


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Other: Teaming up in standard games on unsuspecting opponents on a regular basis.



Game number(s): This is the most recent game number among many many more.

Game 9579348



Comments: I looked at the stats of the above mentioned game and worked them out to the point that jeromepoi was eliminated. They obviously teamed up to remove the third party from the game to assure that one of them would go on to win. They are constantly doing this and should be banned from playing together. The argument for them has been that their opponents are winning 33% of the time. I didn't say they were good at cheating but only that they cheat. Below are the stats from game # 9579348:

Adair410 attacked jeromepoi 12 times
Joey3GA attacked jeromepoi 9 times
Adair410 attacked Joey3GA 4 times
Joey3GA attacked Adair410 4 times

After these stats Adair and Joey went on to battle each other for the win which they do regularly. These stats alone are suspicious but when coupled with the fact that these two have a history of reports from players that were in their games and feel like they were cheated it's pretty serious.

[gibbyrfc]

I've been nosey

and this is getting ridiculous,

the amount of standard 3 and 4player games that they are in together is suspicious in itself, but when coupled with the fact that they NEVER atack each other in R1 and from the logs they leave each other bonuses and attack the 3rd player regardless, the only time they realyl attack each other is when they can eliminate each other for cards, and when they are finally fighting themselves,

there win ratio is laughable for what they are doing though.

but still this isn't funny and alot of players are losing points due to this.

[bryanmeerkat]

Also noticed in my game i have going with them that they never attack each other in round 1 of games they play together and only attack each other for the purpose of securing full territories . At one stage thy had the australia border 1 vs 1 on each side and did not strengthen or steal from each other

[ADAIR410]

I can not believe we are being accused for this non sense again. We have never cheated and will never cheat. You laugh at our win loss record and that is because we are not cheating. When you play 3 player games you can only attack 2 other people. If the setup calls for me to attack the 3rd party, then that is what I will do. If it is set up for me to attack Joey3ga then that is what I do. It all depends on the setup. I am not going to go out of my way to attack Joey just to make other people happy. I try to win no matter who I am playing. I do play alot of games with Joey3ga since we are friends. I did not know you can not play with your friends. We like 3 and 4 player games which means there is a chance that the setup calls for me to attack the other players more. I also have many other games that he is not in. This is and obserd accusation and you should do a little more research before you accuse. This is a game of strategy and I do what I can to win. That is all there is to it. I do not attack the other players much if the setup calls for that.

[bryanmeerkat]

Any links to these games where you have actually played aggresively against joey ? or maybe just a few where you have attacked him early ?

[ADAIR410]

Here are a few. I don't have time to keep going through them. Of course there are some where it worked out and I had to attack the other opponent early but here are some.
Don't know how to make them links.
9579343
9575584
9575729
9575611
9575730

[Dibbun]

Here are a few. I don't have time to keep going through them. Of course there are some where it worked out and I had to attack the other opponent early but here are some.
Don't know how to make them links.
Game 9579343
Game 9575584
Game 9575729
Game 9575611
Game 9575730

Made them links. For future reference:

[ game]123456[ /game]

Without the spaces.

[bryanmeerkat]

[game]Game 9595376[/game]

[ADAIR410]

Why would you post that game? I have attacked equally in order to hold Aus. and it appears Joey3ga has been in battle with you and has taken over SA. Now you almost have Africa. Whats the problem here?? The goal is to get and hold the continents. I feel that the best strategy is to get one of the corners first and then work your way around. Maybe you have a different strategy but you shouldn't hold anything against mine.

[Dibbun]

[game]Game 9595376[/game]

Don't include the word "Game."

[HaireWolf1]

Adair you and Joey have clearly teamed up on players. Now you go to the extreme of starting a game and inviting your "teammate" to the three player game while the third player is just a sitting duck (if you are smart enough to carry out your plan). Fortunately most of the time you are bad enough that you can't pull it off but you two are still cheating and playing standard games like it was doubles. This is one of the lowest things you can do on this site and you should be ashamed of yourselves for wasting the time of other players who pay to play on this site. Most come on here expecting a fair game and most of the time they get it as most players in here unlike yourselves are ethical. If all this wasn't true then so many different players from all skill levels would not have the same complaint against you. I hope they bust your buns this time!

[ADAIR410]

Who ever is in charge of this site and forum, needs to take a look into this. We are being wrongfully accused and now people are starting to post things in our game chats. We are clearly not cheating and anyone in there right mind can see that. Some of the people that are posting stuff have never even played with me or us. Please just take a look and you will see. I posted a few games earlier, but look at any of them. We pay money for this site and there is no reason to be getting accused of something like this. If you look at my strategy you will see that it never changes and it doesn't matter if Joey is playing or not.

[HaireWolf1]

I have not posted anything in game chat, however as I get more evidence to report I will file it here publicly for all to see. You two are cheating and the more evidence that is reported here the better chance at you getting busted which will lead to less players getting cheated in games. Don't try to take the attention off of what you are actually doing. If you think someone is breaking the rules (which is possible if you are being harassed in chat) then you can report that here too. That still does not give you two a blank permit to continue cheating.

[gibbyrfc]

It was me Hairewolf,

i went into a few of their games to tell them to play doubles and stop bloody cheating, and it wasn't as sugar coated as that lol,

i have looked into their history and its transparent what they are doing.

if there big enough to cheat there big enough to take the crap

[ADAIR410]

I will post this one more time. Just look at some of these games tell me about how they were played and who attacked who.

Here are a few. I don't have time to keep going through them. Of course there are some where it worked out and I had to attack the other opponent early but here are some.
Don't know how to make them links.
Game 9579343
Game 9575584
Game 9575729
Game 9575611
Game 9575730

[HaireWolf1]

Nice Work Addair...I'm glad that out of over 160 games you two played together you could come up with 5 or 6 where you can prove you actually didn't cheat.

[D00MandD3A7H]

This is pointless. These noobs deserve eachother and should play team games. Is there a way you can block these? Otherwise, I think the complaints will continue to roll. It is stupid that these two are allowed to continue to play with eachother.

[ADAIR410]

I just want any of you to show me some games that even resembled us teaming up together. Nobody has shown a single game.

[HaireWolf1]

There are too many to name Adair...why isn't joey in here defending himself or are you the same person? I know for a fact secret diplomacy exists with you two but not sure there isn't more to it.

[ADAIR410]

He has been at work, but you still have not giving any games with anything that looked like cheating. It is all part of normal strategy. You should just get over it.

[D00MandD3A7H]

He's been at work? So are you taking his turns, or are you the same person?

[HaireWolf1]

Yeah how do you know he's at work? That's not typed in any chats or boards? So you really are communicating with him on another medium besides public chat...keep talking...I like when you share more information you cheat!

[D00MandD3A7H]

He has been at work, but you still have not giving any games with anything that looked like cheating. It is all part of normal strategy. You should just get over it.

What is your normal strategy? Do you take his turns for him while he is at work? During the last 2 threads he hasnt been here to defend himself, yet he is playing his turns. BUSTED

[ADAIR410]

I am sure he will post when he gets time. I do know him. He is a friend. Are you not allowed to have any friends on this site? We like to play together in order to talk trash against each other. There should be no problem with this.

[HaireWolf1]

No problem in having friends on the site but when friends team up in standard games that is cheating. You should have stuck to doubles games if you two wanted to play and pard up.