Bible Prophecy

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:14 pm

unriggable wrote:The same way you explain a rorschach test...

Damn you and your so called "scientific method". I have no time for you "peer reviewed" nonsense. The Truth (with a capital 'T') is that God did it because, whilst he can't stop famine or earthquakes or hurricanes because of something to do with free will, he can make people's faces appear on cinnamon buns. Or shrouds. Or skirting boards. Or burnt toast.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:15 pm

AlgyTaylor wrote:
unriggable wrote:The same way you explain a rorschach test...

Damn you and your so called "scientific method". I have no time for you "peer reviewed" nonsense. The Truth (with a capital 'T') is that God did it because, whilst he can't stop famine or earthquakes or hurricanes because of something to do with free will, he can make people's faces appear on cinnamon buns. Or shrouds. Or skirting boards. Or burnt toast.

I hope you're kidding...

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:22 pm

unriggable wrote:I hope you're kidding...

I'm most certainly not. The Devil also makes vegetables in rude shapes to tempt us out of the ways of God.

(a phallic carrot)

Blitzaholic · Post by **Blitzaholic** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:58 pm

DaGip wrote:Before I started taking Bible Prophecy seriously, I actually mocked it quite a bit. So, one day, back in 2004, I decided to open and read the Bible seriously for the first time in my life. And I thought to myself, if this is the end of the world, don't you think that God would put a warning in the Bible about these times? And if He did put a warning in the Bible about these times, how would good Christians know? I mean, there has always been wars and earthquakes, right? What would make our wars and earthquakes any different from any other time?

I thought very hard about this before I opened the Bible. I decided that if God were to warn His Christian followers about the beginning of the end of the world, He would choose an event as a marker and place that marker in the most famous Prophecy book of all time! The Book of Revelations.

So, my first decision was that I was going to open the Bible to the Book of Revelations first...but to what chapter and verse?

That was easy enough to decide...I chose 9:11 for the tragedy of September 11, 2001. I mean, if God was going to put a warning for us, you would think that He would put one there, right?

So, I opened Revelations to Chapter 9 verse 11, and this is what it says:

Revelation 9:11

They have over them a king, the angel of the abyss. In Hebrew his name is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.
That didn't make a whole lot of sense to me at first. Abaddon did sound a bit like bin Laden, I would give it that; but you would think that if God wanted to warn us about Osama bin Laden he would reveal his whole name that we would know to recognize him by, wouldn't you?

Now, I know that God likes to work with codes and anagrams and such. That is how He keeps His secrets under lock and key. Not to be opened until the appropriate time.

So I took all the letters of Osama bin Laden and Abaddon Apollyon and decided to try and make a reasonable phonetic spelling of Osama's name that would be understood.

I took AbaddonApollyon and noticed that I can make some phonetic changes in Osma bin Laden's name to fit similarities in the Hebrew and Greek spellings for The Destroyer (which for those of you who are interested and believe in the Bible Code, God says that he gives Osama a name, and that name is Destruction).

The phonetic similarity was this:

Osamabynlladdon

I then put this phonetic spelling directly above the connected Hebrew and Greek name AbaddonApollyon:

AbaddonApollyon
Osamabynladdon

Now after studying this configuration, I noticed that all the letters matched, except for four. The letters s, m, p, and an o:

AbaddonApollyon
Osamabynlladdon

There is no s or an m in AbaddonApollyon! So now I am stuck, right?

Nope...just takes a little more effort to decipher the anagram and ultimately grasp the phonetic name of Osama bin Laden.

The true undeciphered spelling of Osama's name is:

ooAApynlladdon

The o being pronounced in the plural would be o's. And the two capital A's standing together form a letter M.

So you get:

o'sAMApynlladon

and the letter p stands in phonetically for the English b...but the p sound is closer to the Arabic b, so phonetically the letter p will work here. As the b sound in Arabic is shorter and much sharper than the English version of the letter b.

ooAApynlladdon = Osama bin Laden

If you read this, you must be as bored as I am...Merry Christmas!

I think you are reaching a little too far here

The Factory · Post by **The Factory** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:13 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Are you saying that since you can't see, feel, taste or touch time, that it doesn't exist? And then drawing the conclusion that God meets these requirements as well and therefore doesn't exist either?

Actually, I advocated that time exists and is linear.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:28 pm

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you saying that since you can't see, feel, taste or touch time, that it doesn't exist? And then drawing the conclusion that God meets these requirements as well and therefore doesn't exist either?

Then here is a list of other things that do not exist:

Love (feel)
Hate (feel)
Gravity (proven via physics, see)
Molecules (see)
Oxygen (see)
Carbon Dioxide (see)
Your Past (memory)
Your Future (doesn't exist...yet, proof that time is linear)
Thought (feel)
(let me know when you have enough evidence to render your reasoning absurd)

I'm not going to waste time going through it but on all counts....WRONG!
Prove me wrong then.

Love isn't a feeling...baring "puppy love". Its an act. (and not sexual)
Hate isn't a feeling... you may "feel" it but that is the difference between facts and feelings....Feelings come from within (internal) and facts are what takes place around you (external)
Gravity...prove it...or are we just going by hearsay of what some scientist says? (can you see, feel, taste or touch it?)
Oxygen/CO2 you must have better eyesight than me....I've never seen either.
The rest....self explanatory.

fireedud · Post by **fireedud** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Are you saying that since you can't see, feel, taste or touch time, that it doesn't exist? And then drawing the conclusion that God meets these requirements as well and therefore doesn't exist either?

Then here is a list of other things that do not exist:

Love (feel)
Hate (feel)
Gravity (proven via physics, see)
Molecules (see)
Oxygen (see)
Carbon Dioxide (see)
Your Past (memory)
Your Future (doesn't exist...yet, proof that time is linear)
Thought (feel)
(let me know when you have enough evidence to render your reasoning absurd)

I'm not going to waste time going through it but on all counts....WRONG!
Prove me wrong then.

Love isn't a feeling...baring "puppy love". Its an act. (and not sexual)
Hate isn't a feeling... you may "feel" it but that is the difference between facts and feelings....Feelings come from within (internal) and facts are what takes place around you (external)
Gravity...prove it...or are we just going by hearsay of what some scientist says? (can you see, feel, taste or touch it?)
Oxygen/CO2 you must have better eyesight than me....I've never seen either.
The rest....self explanatory.

you're wrong, I have tasted all of them. Love tastes sweet, like honey
Hate tastes like lemon
Gravity tatses like water
Molecules taste like well, whatever they're from
O2 and Co2 basically have the same test, but CO2 is a little more woodsy.

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:02 am

unriggable wrote:[

The same way you explain a rorschach test...

OMG IT'S BILL GATES AND HE'S RIDING A DEMON LIZARD AND HE COMES TO FULFILL SOMETHING I SAW ON YOUTUBE!!!

:hunkers down in bunker made from cereal boxes and an old blanket:
:wraps self in tinfoil:
:sobs 'star-spangled banner' in abject terror:

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:01 am

jay_a2j wrote: Love isn't a feeling...baring "puppy love". Its an act. (and not sexual)
Hate isn't a feeling... you may "feel" it but that is the difference between facts and feelings....Feelings come from within (internal) and facts are what takes place around you (external)
Gravity...prove it...or are we just going by hearsay of what some scientist says? (can you see, feel, taste or touch it?)
Oxygen/CO2 you must have better eyesight than me....I've never seen either.
The rest....self explanatory.

Love isn't a feeling?

You don't feel gravity? (Are you one of those people who think angels are pushing everything in the world down so it appears we're being pulled?)

Are you perhaps suggesting that bacteria only began to exist after the first microscope was made, since noone could see them till then either?

Napoleon Ier · Post by **Napoleon Ier** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:17 am

heavycola wrote:
OMG IT'S BILL GATES AND HE'S RIDING A DEMON LIZARD AND HE COMES TO FULFILL SOMETHING I SAW ON YOUTUBE!!!

:hunkers down in bunker made from cereal boxes and an old blanket:
:wraps self in tinfoil:
:sobs 'star-spangled banner' in abject terror:

I never thought I;d say this about one of your posts, but :

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:22 am

jay_a2j wrote:Love isn't a feeling...baring "puppy love". Its an act. (and not sexual)
Hate isn't a feeling... you may "feel" it but that is the difference between facts and feelings....Feelings come from within (internal) and facts are what takes place around you (external)
Gravity...prove it...or are we just going by hearsay of what some scientist says? (can you see, feel, taste or touch it?)
Oxygen/CO2 you must have better eyesight than me....I've never seen either.
The rest....self explanatory.

Nobody can possibly be this stupid.

Love is a feeling. If you don't feel it, what the hell does it do?
So is hate.

Gravity, you can see through a telescope, and anybody knows that 2+2=4, it must apply to us.

Oxygen CO2 we've seen through a microscope on occasion

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:05 pm

The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:48 pm

DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You mean - there was an election and a natural disaster on the same day? On opposite sides of the world?

Dagip, thank god you posted man.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:36 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Love isn't a feeling?
You don't feel gravity? (Are you one of those people who think angels are pushing everything in the world down so it appears we're being pulled?)

Are you perhaps suggesting that bacteria only began to exist after the first microscope was made, since noone could see them till then either?

Love is jumping in front of a bullet to save someone else. Love is giving your last meal to someone that hasn't eaten for days. Love is giving your BMW to the person who just stole your Focus. Love is giving up your seat on a bus to an elderly woman after you just worked 16 hours on your feet. Love is not a feeling.

I have never felt gravity.... if you have you are truly a wonder that needs to examined by scientists.

Napoleon Ier · Post by **Napoleon Ier** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:34 pm

True; if you've discovered the graviton, you are a genius!

More seriously jay makes a good but misunderstood point about love being something more than simple chemicals coursing around motor neurons and so forth.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:34 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Love isn't a feeling?
You don't feel gravity? (Are you one of those people who think angels are pushing everything in the world down so it appears we're being pulled?)

Are you perhaps suggesting that bacteria only began to exist after the first microscope was made, since noone could see them till then either?

Love is jumping in front of a bullet to save someone else. Love is giving your last meal to someone that hasn't eaten for days. Love is giving your BMW to the person who just stole your Focus. Love is giving up your seat on a bus to an elderly woman after you just worked 16 hours on your feet. Love is not a feeling.

I have never felt gravity.... if you have you are truly a wonder that needs to examined by scientists.

Gravity is not feeling the ceiling with my head.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:50 pm

DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:16 pm

comic boy wrote:
DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot

Does this mean that whoever won that election would be the antichrist? Sucks to be a winner I guess.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:08 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I have never felt gravity.... if you have you are truly a wonder that needs to examined by scientists.

Jump.

That falling sensation? That's gravity.

svtoflord · Post by **svtoflord** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:43 pm

Frigidus wrote:
comic boy wrote:
DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot
Does this mean that whoever won that election would be the antichrist? Sucks to be a winner I guess.

That's if you're jumping to conclusions. I bet it's probably a dead end unless you can find any sort of hint that he is like what he has done and what he believes. I doubt you'll find anything though since I bet most of the stuff in Revelations has already happened.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:53 am

svtoflord wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
comic boy wrote:
DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot
Does this mean that whoever won that election would be the antichrist? Sucks to be a winner I guess.
That's if you're jumping to conclusions. I bet it's probably a dead end unless you can find any sort of hint that he is like what he has done and what he believes. I doubt you'll find anything though since I bet most of the stuff in Revelations has already happened.

Given the broad nature of the prophesies it would be fairly remarkable if in 2000 years of history one could not loosely link one or another event with them.
There are plenty of so called clairvoyants today fleecing the gullible on the back of a rudimentary knowledge of thought association, its pretty easy to be led where you want to go.
I doubt though that even the most incompetent of fraudsters would claim a link between the Boxing day Tsunami and the AntiChrist, most of the victims being Muslim or Budhist and therefore perhaps not the most obvious target.

bradleybadly · Post by **bradleybadly** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:45 am

comic boy wrote:
DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot

QFT

You Christian crackpots need to be examined. Anyone can interpret any passage any way they want to make it seem like any leader could be this mythical BEAST. Going through the checkout line at the grocery store the other day and my bill happened to come out to $6.66 and the lady took off a penny because she believed it was bad luck. Some people see a demon or antichrist behind every situation. Grow up.

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:16 am

jay_a2j wrote: Gravity

Jay mate, you can always test whether gravity exists by jumping off the top of a very tall building. If you die, it exists. If you live, it probably doesn't.

The same cannot be said for god. (or any other supernatural being for that matter)

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:52 am

AlgyTaylor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: Gravity
Jay mate, you can always test whether gravity exists by jumping off the top of a very tall building. If you die, it exists. If you live, it probably doesn't.

The same cannot be said for god. (or any other supernatural being for that matter)

Oh if you jump from a building and die you will discover whether God exists or not.

Gregrios · Post by **Gregrios** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:04 am

bradleybadly wrote:
comic boy wrote:
DaGip wrote:The head of the beast with the death wound that rises from the sea is Victor Yuschenko who finally became president of the Ukraine on December 26, 2004...the same exact day that a giant Tsunami hit Thailand and Sumatra! The Beast that rose from the sea!

This is prophecy being fullfilled infront of our eyes and on the TV sets...so prepare your soul!

You are an idiot
QFT

You Christian crackpots need to be examined. Anyone can interpret any passage any way they want to make it seem like any leader could be this mythical BEAST. Going through the checkout line at the grocery store the other day and my bill happened to come out to $6.66 and the lady took off a penny because she believed it was bad luck. Some people see a demon or antichrist behind every situation. Grow up.

Your right. People will interpret Bible passages anyway they want. The truth is that most of these people who jump to conclusions just have not read enough of the Bible. Every prophecy in the Bible is fairly straight foward and to think that the anti-christ is already here is plain ignorant because to say that then you obviously haven't read enough of the Bible. I could state some reasons for this but then again why should I when a person can just pick up a Bible themselves.

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