aceofcups and lazaruslong [Cleared]

billythekid · Post by **billythekid** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:48 pm

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: aceofcups and lazaruslong

Game number: 56801

Comments: I'm not totally sure if this is a multi account, but they are both in the exact same 4 games, they have the same strategy, they always play right after each other (both that they join the games one right after the other and also when they take their turns, they are always online at the same time and make their moves consecutively...which joining after each other may not seem significant, but it sure does make it convenient to take their turns in one sitting instead of having to check it multiple times if they were split up), and in 3 of the 4 games that they are both in that have gone to 13, 17 and 18 rounds, they've only attacked each other twice (in only one game). It looks a little suspicious to me. I think in game 56801 they're using yellow's armies to weaken other people, while blue just keeps stock piling and eventually will take over everyone.

Thanks,
A Faithful, honest conquerclub member

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:52 pm

if lazaruslong is they guy who's in my game, he's like a captain. he wouldn't need another player to boost his score. and the other member isn't in this game. i dont know..they could be multis, or friends

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:24 am

as much as i would love lazarus get called a multi (i got beat by him) i just dont think hes a multi seeing as he dun need to be a multi like it was said earlier and he beat me fair and square unless you wanna call okiewind a multi too

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:12 am

You realize that the capt.. could be from using multis to boost scores.

billythekid · Post by **billythekid** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:32 am

"You realize that the capt.. could be from using multis to boost scores."

yeah, and another interesting thing to note is that aceofcups has been accused before and also that all 4 games that the two are in, all have 6 players, so if they both win 2 of these 4 games, they each get points for 10 people (5 in each game), while they each only lose points for 2 games...so in the end it would boost both of their overall rankings even though they win 2 and lose 2! I'm still not saying that there is overwhelming evidence that they are multis, but I think that when you look at all the factors, a convincing argument could be made.

Also, the fact that they have some "honest" games where they win fair and square is not surprising to me at all...afterall, if you were a multi, wouldn't it be the smartest thing to do to mix in legitimate games so people don't catch on to your plan?

Just some thoughts...

Fireside Poet · Post by **Fireside Poet** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:06 am

I would be flat out shocked if aceofcups was a multi. I find it very hard to believe.

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:10 am

he just jumped up to major. which is good for me, cuz it looks like i have a chance to beat him

billythekid · Post by **billythekid** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:24 am

"Posted: 11 Aug 2006 23:22

After that i no longer care about the arguements and debates..what with slow response times abusive, language 3 on one pacts and those dice!!..I give up! To those of you that i count as friends..I wish you well...PLEASE NOTE: I will not be back on this site and am deadbeat on all my games."

Above is a previous post by aceofcups, and he still hasn't left the site yet...so my guess is that he's been playing (honestly) for a good while, and has just recently gotten fed up with things and recently started another account or has lazaruslong as a friend to work with. I mean, what satisfaction would he get if he just left? Instead I think he's trying to make everyone else pay and show that he will get the last word.

4 U 2 NV · Post by **4 U 2 NV** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:37 am

i also find it hard to believe that aceofcups would be a multi. I've played against him a couple of times and he's a great enough player to win games on his own. It's not like it's the first time ace tried to quit before anyways when the dice are against him lol.

edit: that quote by the way was out of anger from the dice. later he came back stating that he calmed down. that does not prove that he started or ever decided to play dishonestly.

Master Chief · Post by **Master Chief** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:39 pm

Um guys? Lazarus Long is my dad. If you know me, u know I'm honest, so just give this arguement up already. Fireside knows me quite well, and since he already vouched for aceofcups, this should be a done deal.

billythekid · Post by **billythekid** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:57 pm

alright, since everyone else thinks they are not multis, I can live with that...I give up. So now what happens...does some magical person clear them? This is all new to me, so please forgive me if I'm not following some protocol with this procedure...

KoolBak · Post by **KoolBak** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:24 am

Billy...do not feel bad for honestly and politely posting your concerns..that is what this forum is for...you did it well and the moderators will eventually get to your post. Gods know I have seen enough play that I thot went differently than it should.....

I also would be shocked and saddened if ol Ace is guilty as I find him a fun and worthy opponent...If I recall correctly, he lives in Scotland and it sounds like the other fellow is in the usa.....

Keep your head up Billy!

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:01 pm

aceofcups and lazaruslong are CLEARED of being multiple accounts.

--Andy