Judgement Day- Game Over, MAFIA WIN!!!

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:49 pm

I believe Anarkists roleclaim to be true. I also trust firth and mandy, I gotta lot of reading to do though

as I'm far behind in this game but these are my thoughts so far. Other people seem to be a bit off to my perspective so far.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:50 pm

Koesen wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote: I take this as an admission that you have not been tasked with hunting down a insert color horse. Thus, I see no big harm that would result from you being lynched.
I'm not making any statements regarding Gimpy's guilt or innocence, but that conclusion is seriously flawed. Or do you think losing the doc last night was 'no big harm' either?

Assuming for the moment that you are telling the truth (which is always hard to determine with you ), I think people like Firth may very well be more useful than you. You can only get one scum result. Surely Firth has a better chance of tracking down the horsemen and whoever else we're dealing with? The same goes for the night cop, if we have one.

Reading this made me think of one thing..If the horses hunters could get the investigations from them, -maybe- firth can't ?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:51 pm

to my post above..I just remembered Mandy is one of the hunters..

But still, either he has been roleblocked, or his limited to his investigations..

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:51 pm

Hrm. How about trying to lynch scum instead of trying to figure out what town we could afford to lose

For the record i believe mandy. The claim is too game specific and I wouldn't have come up with it off the top of my head....

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:57 pm

Hate to rush you all, but with the Holidays already upon us, I may be putting up a day limit. Carry On.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:14 pm

freezie wrote: Once again, you all follow blindly one of the gods, without knowing which one is who. Pathetic.

Wow amazing skimming skill there, well done sir.
Anyhow Gimpy looks a bit overdefensive there with his accusation of Mandy, so might be a better target than I first thought. All in all the Mandy theory right now is taken so seriously by the suspects that I have a feeling he might have been spot on

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:44 pm

So I went backto see who had voted for LSU, and here is the list

Sierra,AD,firth,Mandy,gimpy,Koesen,LSU,F1fth,Neutrino,freezie, Selin

Now, we all believe Koesens role, about being one of the Mary's, if I am not mistaken???

LSU obviously was pissed and voted himself.

I am Melchior.

So that leaves Sierra, firth, Mandy, gimpy, F1fth, Neutrino, freezie, Selin

Freezie does seem oddly defensive and I haven't really understood what the problem was there.

Selin never posts much, but his posts contain substance and I don't really know what to think about him.

Neut... Has he been posting much?

Mandy... Need I say more?

Fifth, Gimpy, Firth, and Sierra are all playing, but I can't get a read.

Anybody have any ideas here?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:48 pm

ga7 wrote:
freezie wrote: Once again, you all follow blindly one of the gods, without knowing which one is who. Pathetic.
Wow amazing skimming skill there, well done sir.
Anyhow Gimpy looks a bit overdefensive there with his accusation of Mandy, so might be a better target than I first thought. All in all the Mandy theory right now is taken so seriously by the suspects that I have a feeling he might have been spot on

Well, before any proofs that You blindly accuse me of skimming:

You call a vote on me, because a god said so. You also do it, due to the red joke-post that I wrote, right after mandy CLEARED me of beeing the red one.

And you also call Gimpy for maybe beeing the red one. So, by your logic, you beleive we're both red? No kidding..That must be right! Because I skimmed half his post!

ga7 wrote:Hmm I just quickly skimmed to read back on Gimpy's posts, not sure about the hint theory but a thought came up to my mind seeing Freezie's weird use of tags with the 'red' word. A god indicated at some point that we should lynch Freezie. At that point, it wouldn't be far fetched to think that he wanted that to _not_ get Freezie lynched using reverse psychology and the obvious fact that no one was too keen on listening to the godly ramblings. I'd like to dig deeper in this, so Vote Freezie On a side note, Mandy, I think you said you had 2 investigations to find your target. It might not be so unreasonable to consider that it's the only you get after all Ah well I guess we'll find out eventually.

For all I know, you could be the black one..

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:08 pm

The red thing was obviously not related as Mandy cleared you, but made me think of that particular detail. Funny that you hang onto this 'clearance' as sure it means you're not the red pony, but that doesn't mean you can't be another. As for the skimming part, granted my reasoning is far fetched but to call it blindly following a god while it's the exact reverse intent of it proves you didn't give it more than just a glance before reacting all affected about it

At this point I'd think besides their "behind the scenes" actions gods can't influence us as much as they would like to, hence the flood of lousy messages that previously happened. But I still find it likely that after the calling for Firth's lynch fiasco they might have wanted to try something different; it doesn't hold much water but your reaction makes me feel it's not just grasping at straws either.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:15 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote: Now, we all believe Koesens role, about being one of the Mary's, if I am not mistaken???

Unnamed sister of Mary, to be precise.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:18 pm

Koesen wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote: Now, we all believe Koesens role, about being one of the Mary's, if I am not mistaken???
Unnamed sister of Mary, to be precise.

That's the one... Thanks.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:20 pm

ga7 wrote:The red thing was obviously not related as Mandy cleared you, but made me think of that particular detail. Funny that you hang onto this 'clearance' as sure it means you're not the red pony, but that doesn't mean you can't be another. As for the skimming part, granted my reasoning is far fetched but to call it blindly following a god while it's the exact reverse intent of it proves you didn't give it more than just a glance before reacting all affected about it
At this point I'd think besides their "behind the scenes" actions gods can't influence us as much as they would like to, hence the flood of lousy messages that previously happened. But I still find it likely that after the calling for Firth's lynch fiasco they might have wanted to try something different; it doesn't hold much water but your reaction makes me feel it's not just grasping at straws either.

it's in fact far-fetched, and I won't bother explaining myself anymore.

I have a somewhat theory that could maybe show us a clue, I'll read back some things and post it in a few minutes..

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:21 pm

Ok, reading back the alive list, my theory won't hold much water...Never mind it. With less players, it would have been better..

That also removes a bit of suspicion I have from AD...

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:21 pm

over-defensive? no. defensive, yes. Lets all look at the "evidence" Mandy is basing his accusations on.

1) I used the word red(in red) on day 1. To save people the trouble of looking I did so when someone else voted me in bold like normal instead of in the color red and i corrected them so they could vote me the right way. That's it

2)I respond w/ a joke using lots of color names debunking his ludicrous theory. He then votes me for this???

that's it, that is the sum total of why i'm being voted. at first i just took it a sillyness and responded as such. now i'm gettng annoyed. If i was what Mandy was searching for why doesn't he just investigate me tonight. Then he can clear me of being the red horse. But trust me on this, he's barking up the wrong tree. He then goes on to say that since i'm not 1 of 4 players searching for a colored horse i might as well be lynched. do you see why i might get frustrated?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:22 pm

gimpyThewonder wrote:over-defensive? no. defensive, yes. Lets all look at the "evidence" Mandy is basing his accusations on.

1) I used the word red(in red) on day 1. To save people the trouble of looking I did so when someone else voted me in bold like normal instead of in the color red and i corrected them so they could vote me the right way. That's it

2)I respond w/ a joke using lots of color names debunking his ludicrous theory. He then votes me for this???

that's it, that is the sum total of why i'm being voted. at first i just took it a sillyness and responded as such. now i'm gettng annoyed. If i was what Mandy was searching for why doesn't he just investigate me tonight. Then he can clear me of being the red horse. But trust me on this, he's barking up the wrong tree. He then goes on to say that since i'm not 1 of 4 players searching for a colored horse i might as well be lynched. do you see why i might get frustrated?

Mandy is beeing Mandy

You're the only one not beleiving him right now.

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:27 pm

Interesting revelations by Mandy. I think the post-restrictions theory is way too far-fetched. I looked back to see if I could find any posts that indicate a post-restriction, but I couldn't find any real clues there.

By the way: funny how you didn't add Skoffin to your list of red-horse-suspects. I don't know if jnd is the kind of mod that hand-picks roles to fit the players, but if he did he must have picked Skoffin.

As for Freezie, he does seem a bit overdefensive. But not enough to make me place my vote on him yet.

I'd rather see AD lynched today. His excuses for not having any results for two nights in a role don't convince me much. If he was really role-blocked, then he'll probably be roleblocked every night from now on, making his role (if it were true) useless anyway.

Vote AD

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:31 pm

why would I? its pure bunk and I know its not true. Is everyone on crazy pills? If you want to vote me then go ahead, but give a better reason then my using the word red in a sentence.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:36 pm

freezie wrote: Mandy is beeing Mandy You're the only one not beleiving him right now.

You know, after that first post of his, I actually thought we were going to get somewhere, but now we're deep in the realm of theories spinning off of theories again.

AD seems to be sort of cleared for now, or at least he appears to have regained enough credibility to keep him around a bit longer.

As for Gimpy, having been on the receiving end of Mandy's theories on several occasions, I can see why he would be annoyed.

As for Freezie, I'll have to reread perhaps, but if it's essentially all based on his use of the word or color red and his response to the accusations, I'm not convinced yet.

Mandy, I tend to assume is misguided rather than evil, but I find the failure of Firth's investigation somewhat puzzling. Why would an investigation of Abraham fail? Angels and demons I can see, but Abraham? (I assume we don't have a day time roleblocker)

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:53 pm

Sierra_Leon wrote:Interesting revelations by Mandy. I think the post-restrictions theory is way too far-fetched. I looked back to see if I could find any posts that indicate a post-restriction, but I couldn't find any real clues there.

By the way: funny how you didn't add Skoffin to your list of red-horse-suspects. I don't know if jnd is the kind of mod that hand-picks roles to fit the players, but if he did he must have picked Skoffin.

As for Freezie, he does seem a bit overdefensive. But not enough to make me place my vote on him yet.

I'd rather see AD lynched today. His excuses for not having any results for two nights in a role don't convince me much. If he was really role-blocked, then he'll probably be roleblocked every night from now on, making his role (if it were true) useless anyway.

Vote AD

So, because I suddenly have no power, and would be a normal townie, you would VOTE me?

That makes no sense... Even if I am role-blocked continuously now, we need town, not scum.

The more of us there are, the harder it will be for scum to out us so quickly.

I honestly can't believe that a townie would vote for another townie for no reason.

So, should we all vote you because you have no power? (assuming you don't) I am still a benefit to the town, dude. I have a vote, and will help use it to find and destroy the followers of Satan.

I do not know if I was role-blocked the first night or not. As Isaid, school and RL is more important than this. If you allow that to make your decision, then, fine, fucking kill me.

But I AM trying to be helpful. And I am doing a damn sight better than so many of the submariners in this game...

But, no, let's lynch the active people! Genius.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:55 pm

Seriously, there really is no case against AD. I wasn't clear enough in saying this last time, but the style and the aspects of his role fit this game and the other roles that have been presented thus far (as well as mine).

Given that, and a credible role name, I really think that lynching AD would be a mistake... unless you were a follower of Satan of course...

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:19 am

Unvote

This is worth a good and deep BAH!

Gimpy, your red post is not the only thing that makes mandy vote you, and I clearly see it.

On the other hand, Mandy don't have any facts against him, either..

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:23 am

freezie wrote:Unvote

This is worth a good and deep BAH!

Gimpy, your red post is not the only thing that makes mandy vote you, and I clearly see it.

On the other hand, Mandy don't have any facts against him, either..

*throws hands up in sheer, utter givingupedness*

then can you explain it to me? I'll admit i've had my share of concusions (and home brews) in life so maybe there is a mental block there. i just don't get it

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:03 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Syzygy wrote:I really don't but AD's claim.

In addition to some reasons already mentioned is the fact that it doesn't fit in with the story.

This is apocalypse mafia, not the-birth-of-jesus (no offence) mafia.

What do the 3 wise men have to do with the apocalypse?
But barnabas and nostradamus make sense?!?!?!

That is the most ignorant thing I have heard in this game so far.

Look, guys... PLEASE, firth, investigate me...

I am totally okay with that. I have nothing to hide, and I am not lying.
Considering that I am Abraham, I am inclined to agree that most if not all characters used for roles come from the past.

Alright AD, I'm sorry. I'm leaning foward to believing you now, because of the above and what others have said.

On that note, I would like to Vote: Sierra_Leon. His post at the top of the page looks very scummy.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:42 am

Ohhh, Day started. Don't know how I managed to miss it. Begin re-reading! [/spam]

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:52 am

Sierra_Leon wrote:By the way: funny how you didn't add Skoffin to your list of red-horse-suspects. I don't know if jnd is the kind of mod that hand-picks roles to fit the players, but if he did he must have picked Skoffin.

Imagine if I were the red horse, that would kind of be an unfair advantage to me wouldn't it?

As for Gimpy I am getting slightly suspiscious of him now, look back at the last couple of posts and you will notice he seems to have this urge to put any mention of 'red' in bold. Why? Once I can shrug off, but again? I don't know, maybe Mandy has infected my brain or something.

For the Freezie thing... when the god posted about Freezie I saw it more as a 'I don't know, go kill freezie maybe' not a 'He is scum, go get him boys'