[Medal] Achievements

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:34 am

I also think that when you earn an award you should get a little pop up thing in the game you are playing to tell you to go check your profile.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:42 am

one thing. if the achievements get approved and implemented then on the achievements page i'd like to see what each one means. if it says Guild master i'll probably have no idea that means that certain guy has 50 wins on AoM.

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:11 am

I dont think that there should be a list of all of them anywhere. Lack should make up tons of them and have people just figure it out on thier own. If lack were to make a list of all of them then people would team up and try to get everyone every medal. He should make it so that under the medal it says how he got it.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:17 am

Must petition a mod (or admin) for scar removal. They will likely take their sweet time responding.

Scar <How To Get> [Effect]
------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------
Wrong Guy <Kill Someone Else's Target In Assassin In Two Games
(Unless Fog of War)>
[Can No Longer Play Public Assassin Games]
Enemies Closer <Kill Your Own Teammate(s), Lose The Game You Did It In,
And Recieve Negative Feedback For It From A Teammate>
[Can No Longer Play Public Team Games]
Deadbeater <Deadbeat in over 25% of your games
(once you have over 20 games)>
[Can No Longer Play Public Games]

no to all of these. That is discrimination and reducing the enjoyment of people. Lack wont allow it

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:56 pm

Well if he won't allow it then he can not allow it. This is all ideas and speculation until he gets near adding this feature. I don't mind discriminating against people that are playing to grief other players though.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:57 pm

just saying so their is no whinging

I GOT SERVED · Post by **I GOT SERVED** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:28 pm

Herakilla wrote:
Stoney229 wrote:
I GOT SERVED wrote:Lucky You - conquer a territory when the defender has 10+ more armies than the attacking force
That is very easy to do if you have enough armies. The odds favor the attacker once you get up to about 80 vs 90 or more.
the odds favor the attacker almost as long as the attacker can roll 3 dies even after losing a bunch

Sooo...since that won't work, maybe have it be a certain % more armies? Not sure what that percentage would be though.

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:29 pm

i want to say 200% (twice as many armies) lol

I GOT SERVED · Post by **I GOT SERVED** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:38 pm

Herakilla wrote:i want to say 200% (twice as many armies) lol

That sounds about right.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:47 pm

I love this idea and the xbox360 is a great example of how achievements are a good thing for games. The issue here is that this game is a multilayer only game.

We will have groups of players getting together and playing 100 games purposely dying to each other just to get a medal.
I think that these achievements need to work like the feedback system.
You can only get 1 feedback per player and you should only be able to get 1 achievement point per player as well.

Meaning you can't kill the same player for:
Night Vision <Win 20 Fog of War games>
I'll Be Back <Terminate 50 Players in Terminator Games>

This limit 1 achievement point per player requirement will make keep players honest and require them to actually try to get medals not just pile up the games with their friends.

What does everyone think of that?

WM

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:51 pm

most people care about their points WM so i dont hink itll be too big a problem

laso, coleman make a note in first post about an achievement for each map for winning 50 of that map

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:55 pm

and im against having conquerer as an achievement. this may lead some players to do ANYTHING they can to win, including dishonorable tactics which every1 hates. plus if you look at 360 games, they do not have any achievements for being number one out of EVERY1.

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:56 pm

WidowMakers wrote:I love this idea and the xbox360 is a great example of how achievements are a good thing for games. The issue here is that this game is a multilayer only game.

We will have groups of players getting together and playing 100 games purposely dying to each other just to get a medal.
I think that these achievements need to work like the feedback system.
You can only get 1 feedback per player and you should only be able to get 1 achievement point per player as well.

Meaning you can't kill the same player for:
Night Vision <Win 20 Fog of War games>
I'll Be Back <Terminate 50 Players in Terminator Games>

This limit 1 achievement point per player requirement will make keep players honest and require them to actually try to get medals not just pile up the games with their friends.

What does everyone think of that?

WM

sounds good but I also like the idea of not having a list off the achievements. That way no one knows what all of them are. This would only work if there were tons and tons of them. Them it could be that under the medal, below the medal title it would say what he is good at in order to get it. Not exactly how to get it though. It would be like

<picture of medal>

(medal title)

[what the person is good at]

so it could be like

[insert picture here]

Ill be back

Great at terminator games
but with a much smaller and non copyrighted medal.

Stoney229 · Post by **Stoney229** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:12 pm

Stoney229 wrote:Warmonger- playing in over x number of games at one time

Napolean- Winning x number of games in a row.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:29 pm

Herakilla wrote:most people care about their points WM so i dont hink itll be too big a problem

laso, coleman make a note in first post about an achievement for each map for winning 50 of that map

I know people care. But two 1000 point newbies could run the table on medals by winning and losing to each other for 500 games. Then they would each be back at 1000 and have all of the medals. That is the problem.

WM

Herakilla · Post by **Herakilla** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:58 pm

WidowMakers wrote:
Herakilla wrote:most people care about their points WM so i dont hink itll be too big a problem

laso, coleman make a note in first post about an achievement for each map for winning 50 of that map
I know people care. But two 1000 point newbies could run the table on medals by winning and losing to each other for 500 games. Then they would each be back at 1000 and have all of the medals. That is the problem.

WM

if they want to play 500 games together, they can be my guest lol

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:00 pm

It's a concern, but it is a mild one, I'm not sure I see a huge problem with it.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:13 pm

Herakilla wrote:
WidowMakers wrote:
Herakilla wrote:most people care about their points WM so i dont hink itll be too big a problem

laso, coleman make a note in first post about an achievement for each map for winning 50 of that map
I know people care. But two 1000 point newbies could run the table on medals by winning and losing to each other for 500 games. Then they would each be back at 1000 and have all of the medals. That is the problem.

WM
if they want to play 500 games together, they can be my guest lol

actually we have 57 maps. to get a medal for a map you must have 50 wins on it. let's say 2 players want to get all map medals. this means each must win and lose 50 games for each map. 100 games * 57 maps = 5700 games just to get the map medals. they will still need loads of other games for the rest of the medals.

i doubt 2 new players are willing to play 5700 games together

edwinissweet · Post by **edwinissweet** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:31 pm

i like it, sounds sweet

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:36 pm

so far i have:

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I'll Be Back       <Terminate 50 Players in Terminator Games> 
They Call Me Bob   <Total Over 500 Armies in One Game>
Iron Will          <Win a game where you had only 1 army at some point       
                     (not in a team game)>
Wuss               <Lose 10 Armies In A Row Attacking>
Whoopsie           <Successfully Bombard A Neutral Territory>
Multi Slayer       <Win a game against a convicted multi>
Stone Cold Killer  <Kill 5 Players In One Game (Terminator Only)>
Double Kill        <Eliminate 2 Players In One Turn>
Triple Kill        <Eliminate 3 Players In One Turn>
Thrill Kill        <Eliminate 4 Players In One Turn>
Running Riot       <Eliminate 5 Players In One Turn> 
Lucky Dice         <Kill 10 Or More Armies In A Row Without Losing One>
Lucky You          <Own A Continent Your First Turn Worth +2 Or More>
Guild Master        <Win 50 games on Age Of Merchants>

still a looooong way before i get everything.

Aerial Attack · Post by **Aerial Attack** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:41 pm

These are the ones I qualify for

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Unless obviously otherwise, these must be 3 FFA and up games without teams.

Achievement        <How To Get>
------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------
I'll Be Back       <Terminate 50 Players in Terminator Games>
Iron Will          <Win a game where you had only 1 army at some point       
                     (not in a team game)>
Wuss               <Lose 10 Armies In A Row Attacking>
Brother's Keeper   <successfully win a team game where your partner deadbeats
                     (and none of your opponents do)>
Live Long          <Complete 500 Games>
World Traveler     <Play on over 50 different maps>
Stone Cold Killer  <Kill 5 Players In One Game (Terminator Only)>
Beat The Best      <Beat Someone When They Have The Conquerer Rank>
Casher             <Cash in 3 sets of cards in a single turn>
Double Kill        <Eliminate 2 Players In One Turn>
Triple Kill        <Eliminate 3 Players In One Turn>
Thrill Kill        <Eliminate 4 Players In One Turn>
Lucky Dice	      <Kill 10 Or More Armies In A Row Without Losing One>
Lucky You	       <Own A Continent Your First Turn Worth +2 Or More>
Diplomat	        <Win An Assassin Game Due To 
                      Someone Else Killing Your Target>

I'm up to 40 maps w/o teams or 1 v 1, 44 with teams, and 57 with 1 v 1

I have yet to win 50 on any specific map - actually, I might be close on Classic? I'm nowhere close for any other maps unless I could include 1 v 1 for AoM.

These are ones I think I have, but can't be 100% sure - or I'm really close to

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Achievement        <How To Get>
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I'll Be Back       <Terminate 50 Players in Terminator Games>
Running Riot       <Eliminate 5 Players In One Turn>
World Conquerer    <Win on over 50 different maps>

BTW - the scar for killing your teammates should be "Benedict Arnold" (I realize it's US History, but it is a Revolutionary War reference). "Enemies Closer" just doesn't roll of the tongue. If you don't want a US History figure - you could always go with - 'Friendly' Fire

I'll go over the list of map specific ones to see if I can come up with something good.

Aerial Attack · Post by **Aerial Attack** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:23 pm

I'll edit below where I can think of something, but there are several that I have an idea - just can't quite crystalize it. Also, you'll notice several movie themes in here.

8 Thoughts - Rodin sculpted The Thinker OR if you want to go Greek, go Plato or Socrates

Africa - I'm thinking Diamond King because of the mines there. Alas, if we ever have a baseball map ...

Alexander's Empire - I'm thinking Alexander the Great, although Emperor isn't too bad. Or <CC Player> the Great

Ancient Greece - Achilles or Odysseus OR Helen for female CC players? Wait a second, we never registered our genders - did we?

Asia - Billions Master (seeing as how you would have conquered Billions of people)

Battle of Actium/Circus Maximus, Marcus Antonius would be better for Actium than Caesar - he was probably actually there. Caesar would be better for Circus Maximus - though I like your Chariot idea

D-Day: Captain Miller (Tom Hank's character in Saving Private Ryan, or you could go with Private Ryan)

Extreme Global Warming - Survivor is good, but Mad Max [actually Mad Max II: The Road Warrior] was the post-apocalyptic movie that launched Mel Gibson in the US (on second thought ...) OR you could go with Smell Of Napalm (from Apocalypse Now)

France and Germany, I may be touching on sore subjects but I figured I'd be funny with I Surrender for France. Member of the SS might be over the top for Germany

Ireland - gotta be St. Patrick or Danny Boy

Pearl Harbor - Day Of Infamy after FDR's immortal words.

San Francisco - Flower Child. There's a 60's song by Scott McKenzie with following name : San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair)

Tamriel - it's not so much the Flags as it is the Embassies (therefore it should be Fictional or Medieval Ambassador)

WWII Iwo Jima - Marine With Flag, after the famous picture of the Marines around the flag

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Achievement           Win 50 Games On
--------------------- ---------------------------
CC Addict             Classic
African               Africa
Guild Master          Age Of Merchants
Emperor               Alexander's Empire
Achilles/Helen        Ancient Greece
Cold As Ice           Arctic
Billions Master       Asia
Outback General       Australia
Repatriated POW       Bamboo Jack
Outback Admiral       Battle For Australia
Marcus Antonius       Battle Of Actium
Unionizer             BeNeLux
Ich bin ein Berliner! Berlin 1961
Pele                  Brazil
Crumpet               British Isles
Relaxed               Cairns Coral Coast
Mountie               Canada v2
Spanglish             Caribbean Islands
Dean                  CCU
Confucius             Chinese Checkers
Chariot Master        Circus Maximus v2
Webster's Dictionary  Crossword
Captain Miller        D-Day: Omaha Beach!
Rincewind             Discworld
Young At Heart        Doodle Earth
Union Master          Europe
Smell Of Napalm       Extreme Global Warming
I Surrender           France
Member of the SS      Germany
The Lake Effect       Great Lakes v2
City Slicker          Hong Kong
Remember The Champa!  Indochina
St. Patrick           Ireland
The Godfather         Italy
King of the Mountains King Of The Mountains v2
Lord of the Rings     Middle Earth
Battle Ready          Middle East
Plagiarist            Midkemia
Genghis Kahn          Mongol Empire
Better Than Chomedey  Montreal v2
Ruler of the North    North America
Day Of Infamy         Pearl Harbor
Filipino              Philippines v2
Portuguese            Portugal
American Engineer     Rail USA
Flower Child          San Francisco
Knight                Siege!
Astronaut             Space
Medieval Ambassador   Tamriel
American Idol         USA
Horseman              USApocalypse
Senator               U.S. Senate
Egyptian Pharaoh      Valley Of The Kings
Super CC Addict       World 2.1
Eastern General       WWII Eastern Front
Marine With Flag      WWII Iwo Jima
Rodin                 8 Thoughts

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:32 am

DiM wrote:
Herakilla wrote:
WidowMakers wrote:
Herakilla wrote:most people care about their points WM so i dont hink itll be too big a problem

laso, coleman make a note in first post about an achievement for each map for winning 50 of that map
I know people care. But two 1000 point newbies could run the table on medals by winning and losing to each other for 500 games. Then they would each be back at 1000 and have all of the medals. That is the problem.

WM
if they want to play 500 games together, they can be my guest lol
actually we have 57 maps. to get a medal for a map you must have 50 wins on it. let's say 2 players want to get all map medals. this means each must win and lose 50 games for each map. 100 games * 57 maps = 5700 games just to get the map medals. they will still need loads of other games for the rest of the medals.

i doubt 2 new players are willing to play 5700 games together

Actually this would be quite easy for 2 people to do.

Start a 100 speed games on 1 map and deadbeat is 50 of them one turn. After that each player gets 50 wins without actually having to do anything in probably under 30 minutes.

Believe me, it might not be the prettiest way but it is much easier than actually playing all of these maps. Plus all of the other medals could easily be won at the same time in the same manner.

That is why I am suggesting the medal system to work like the feedback system.

Another player may only be used ONCE to receive a medal in any category.

Aerial Attack · Post by **Aerial Attack** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:53 am

Any one else have any ideas for Achievements or Scars?

Tourney Runner - complete 3 with at least 16 people each and 15 games each, so that would be 48 people served and 45 games created. I suppose 50 people served by 50 games could do it too.

Map Maker - create a map

Map Commentator - provide productive/constructive comments on at least 25 maps (achievement assigned by Foundry mods, after you PM them to check - I suppose they could have a stickied apply for Achievement thread)

Tourney Joiner - play in at least public 25 tourneys (achievement assigned by Tournament mods, after you PM them to check - I suppose they could have a stickied apply for Achievement thread)

Tourney Winner - win a 1v1, a singles (3+ player), and a teams tournament

Abandoner - Leave 3 tournaments prior to elimination/completion (must PM Tourney mod for removal [can't play/run Public tournaments]).

Kaplowitz · Post by **Kaplowitz** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:32 pm

Sniper- Eliminate someone before any of their territories were conquered. [5 times]