The Day After Pill

[vtmarik]

What do all these acronyms mean?

RTFA = Read the fucking article
DIAF = Die in a fire, which is the next step after "STFU"

If Caleb dies, he can go meet Jesus.

[Caleb the Cruel]

there is this thing called adoption
i don't encourage everyone to do it but it's better than abortion

[cowshrptrn]

its not your decision to make, the fetus is the mother's. accidents happen, and its not the mother or father who are paying for it, its the kid, the kid shouldn't have been born, and if we keep it that way its better off for the kid, the embryo has no nerves, it can't feel at this point, it is literally a ball of cells!!! if the prents are willing to stop their kid from being born it definately would be better off not born

Jsut because YOUR religious texts discourage abortion doens't mean ppl of every religion can't have it, thats liek saying everyone should go to church. Also if it preserved life in every way why would there be popes who have led warriors on horseback to kill Muslims during the crusades, interpretations have changed, and will change in the future.

[jay_a2j]

its not your decision to make, the fetus is the mother's. accidents happen, and its not the mother or father who are paying for it, its the kid, the kid shouldn't have been born, and if we keep it that way its better off for the kid, the embryo has no nerves, it can't feel at this point, it is literally a ball of cells!!! if the prents are willing to stop their kid from being born it definately would be better off not born

Jsut because YOUR religious texts discourage abortion doens't mean ppl of every religion can't have it, thats liek saying everyone should go to church. Also if it preserved life in every way why would there be popes who have led warriors on horseback to kill Muslims during the crusades, interpretations have changed, and will change in the future.

Are you for real???? First of all a mother can't get pregnant by herself but lets not even get into FATHERS RIGHTS. Accidents happen in an imperfect world. BUT this is NOT what God intended. Sex outside of marriage is sin. (And yes, I am aware that a whole lot of it goes on) but that doesn't make it right.

I don't know where you got all your misinformation from but as one who has researched the topic for college I can tell you that at 8 weeks old (the time when most abortions are preformed) the fetus has fingers and toes, it has a heartbeat. And as evidenced by a taped abortion the fetus moves AWAY from the scalpel so it obviously "feels" the danger. Wake up and stop posting false information to back your indefencable position.

[vtmarik]

Are you for real???? First of all a mother can't get pregnant by herself but lets not even get into FATHERS RIGHTS. Accidents happen in an imperfect world. BUT this is NOT what God intended. Sex outside of marriage is sin. (And yes, I am aware that a whole lot of it goes on) but that doesn't make it right.

I don't know where you got all your misinformation from but as one who has researched the topic for college I can tell you that at 8 weeks old (the time when most abortions are preformed) the fetus has fingers and toes, it has a heartbeat. And as evidenced by a taped abortion the fetus moves AWAY from the scalpel so it obviously "feels" the danger. Wake up and stop posting false information to back your indefencable position.

Wait, I thought God had a plan. I was taught at a very young age that everything is according to The Plan. Therefore, all of the abortions that have taken place were according to The Plan. If they weren't in The Plan, they wouldn't have occurred.

Now, before you bring up free will, remember that God is omniscient. He is beyond time and space and knows everything that will happen. That also means that he can see into the infinite number of possible futures accountable through free will. Therefore, if God didn't want these fetuses (who technically have no free will as they aren't able to exercise it yet) to be aborted, they wouldn't have been aborted. Welcome to the world of how God supposedly works.

[jay_a2j]

Are you for real???? First of all a mother can't get pregnant by herself but lets not even get into FATHERS RIGHTS. Accidents happen in an imperfect world. BUT this is NOT what God intended. Sex outside of marriage is sin. (And yes, I am aware that a whole lot of it goes on) but that doesn't make it right.

I don't know where you got all your misinformation from but as one who has researched the topic for college I can tell you that at 8 weeks old (the time when most abortions are preformed) the fetus has fingers and toes, it has a heartbeat. And as evidenced by a taped abortion the fetus moves AWAY from the scalpel so it obviously "feels" the danger. Wake up and stop posting false information to back your indefencable position.

Wait, I thought God had a plan. I was taught at a very young age that everything is according to The Plan. Therefore, all of the abortions that have taken place were according to The Plan. If they weren't in The Plan, they wouldn't have occurred.

Now, before you bring up free will, remember that God is omniscient. He is beyond time and space and knows everything that will happen. That also means that he can see into the infinite number of possible futures accountable through free will. Therefore, if God didn't want these fetuses (who technically have no free will as they aren't able to exercise it yet) to be aborted, they wouldn't have been aborted. Welcome to the world of how God supposedly works.

No, its your twisted interpretation of "How God works".

[vtmarik]

*ponders* One second please...

*walks over to reverend_kyle, grabs his hand, and smacks it* You deal with him for a bit, I'm going to go eat.

[reverend_kyle]

*ponders* One second please...

*walks over to reverend_kyle, grabs his hand, and smacks it* You deal with him for a bit, I'm going to go eat.

The great twill told me not to feed trolls .... That is what I consider Christian fundementalists.

[vtmarik]

The great twill told me not to feed trolls .... That is what I consider Christian fundementalists.

I gotta stop feeding them too, but they climb up the fence and they give me those big eyes....

[Caleb the Cruel]

Jsut because YOUR religious texts discourage abortion doens't mean ppl of every religion can't have it, thats liek saying everyone should go to church. Also if it preserved life in every way why would there be popes who have led warriors on horseback to kill Muslims during the crusades, interpretations have changed, and will change in the future.

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die
and the thing you said about popes back in the middle ages...
I am not catholic, the old catholic church was very corrupt and mis-guided
thats why in the 1500's people broka away from catholicism
and what you said about how interpretations change and all these people who say the world is changing, i have a simple statement for them...
CULTURE MIGHT CHANGE, BUT THE BIBLE DOESN"T

[Spuzzell]

Yes it does, it changes all the time as different people interpret it in the way they want it to be. I've got at least 3 different versions in English.

Besides, you simply can't use the bible as a rulebook for life. The basic tenets are fine: Dont steal, don't kill, be good, acknowledge a greater power.

But the specifics were written by men, and reflect the human outlook at the time of writing, not Gods.

You wouldn't want to be judged by the law as it was 2000 years ago as human society has progressed so much since then that most of their law apart from the basic tenets is no longer relevant to us.. so why would you want to apply their social restrictions? They belong to a different world.

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

Woah. What, just like Jesus said? Can't recall the exact scripture, was it something like: "Hey apostles! Screw the cross, lets go kill all the Jews! And anyone else who doesn't agree with me! Woo! U-S-A, U-S-A!!"?

Think you might be confusing The Holy Trinity and Hitler. But maybe in your particular Bible they're the same.

[Caleb the Cruel]

Spuzzell-
I don't want to kill the followers of Judaism, i want the Muslims to do that for me.

[vtmarik]

Spuzzell-
I don't want to kill the followers of Judaism, i want the Muslims to do that for me.

Jesus was a Jew.

[Caleb the Cruel]

Hebrew? yes.
Complete follower of modern judaism? no.

[reverend_kyle]

Hebrew? yes.
Complete follower of modern judaism? yes.

the only difference was that people started worshiping him and the jews dont believe him as the messiah..


and really if some christian started saying they were a god would you believe them as a messiah?

[jay_a2j]

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

Wow! Christianity would disagree with you. Ever read JN 3:16? Christianity is about LOVE.

[reverend_kyle]

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

Wow! Christianity would disagree with you. Ever read JN 3:16? Christianity is about LOVE.

thats waht I was thinking but I was afraid id get called a liberal commie for saying that.

[Caleb the Cruel]

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

Christianity would disagree with you. Ever read JN 3:16? Christianity is about LOVE.

it talks about how GOD loved, and i don't think i am God
it also says WHOEVER BELIEVES IN ME shall have eternal life which is excludes everybody but christians
which makes me want for everybody to convert to christianity, or die

[Machiavelli]

Caleb is a walking billboard for the day after pill.

[Jolly Roger]

I am not catholic, the old catholic church was very corrupt and mis-guided

Remind you of anyone? Here's a hint:

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

[vtmarik]

it talks about how GOD loved, and i don't think i am God
it also says WHOEVER BELIEVES IN ME shall have eternal life which is excludes everybody but christians
which makes me want for everybody to convert to christianity, or die

Well, want all you wish my friend. Want and want and want some more. And when you come before the Great Judge of All Things, what will you say to Him?

[jay_a2j]

Remind you of anyone? Here's a hint:

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

HITLER?

[strike wolf]

ding! Ding! Ding!

[vtmarik]

Remind you of anyone? Here's a hint:

my religion (christianity) is the true religion, so that means that yes, everybody should follow it, or die

HITLER?

Glad he didn't call on me, i would've said Pat Buchanan.

[Caleb the Cruel]

what's wrong with hitler? except for the suicide part
and pat buchanon? i like him