Algorithm of dices ? Are you losing more than yesterday ?

[DR_NO]

Hi
Its a question for all but of course for webmaster of this site .

Is the algorithm of dices has changed ?

Why im asking this ?
Because since a few days, I notice a lot of horrible dices

exemple in this game where hojubobclan put all this armies every turn
and loose in indonesia (4) for 5 rounds !! 6/4 10/4
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=57585

And is more difficult for me to win since few days too.
Maybe there is a relation between rank we have and the dices ?
( im lieutenant since few days)


Thanks for your observation and answer


PS: excuse me for my horrible english, Im french.

[sully800]

No, I don't believe anything changed with the dice. They've always been streaky, you just might not have noticed it. I mean that you will have times of very good and very bad dice on this site. I think almost everyone has noticed that.

[hendy]

I have noticed an improvement

[mightyal]

The dice have got a lot more random lately.

[sully800]

Was the programming changed? I don't believe so. Your own dice may appear to be more random just as DR NO's were worse and hendy's were better.

[DR_NO]

thats why i've done a poll
because dices are really worst than yesterday and not only for me

it appears of worst period where always losing.

But let see the poll results ...

[Disaster]

It seems like one day the dice love me and the next day they treat me like I cheated on them with a drunken bar slut...go figure.
I've just gotten used to them.

[sully800]

DR NO- If some people are always losing than that means some people will always be winning. There is no way to have good or bad dice for everyone. So if you are having terrible dice right now then other peole are guaranteed to be having good dice.

[DR_NO]

of course ... but I think ( and this would be normal) that when you have an high rank, dices is worst than when you have a low rank.

it is just an assumption ...

So Im waiting for comments from high rank conquerclub ?

Maybe I will ask Pilate ?

[AndyDufresne]

I don't think your logic about the rank works very well. Look at the users who who fell below 1000, and those who fell way below...a lot of them are having trouble climbing back up...not because of the dice, but because of poor strategy most likely.


--Andy

[Pilate]

of course ... but I think ( and this would be normal) that when you have an high rank, dices is worst than when you have a low rank.

it is just an assumption ...

So Im waiting for comments from high rank conquerclub ?

Maybe I will ask Pilate ?

nO, OTHERwise, how can you get a high rating?

[shinmen]

I don´t noticed any change. I think the dice are always the same.

Is just a question of good or bad luck. You never remember when you have good luck because you are always hoping have good luck and when you have bad luck you are disappointed. Is a psychological question. This happens to me even playing games out the PC, with the old and tipical dice.

Pas de problème avec ton anglais, ce n´est pas le pire ici. Moi par contre, je suis en train d´oublier mon français puisque j´ai de problèmes même pour écrire une seule phrase.

[DR_NO]

Thanks shinmen !

I dont think its psychologicla .. its statistical !

ask hojubobclan in http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=57585

he had horrible dices since we 've started.

[mightyal]

n00bs are given good dice to encourage them to stay around and upgrade to premium. then they get rubbish dice to allow the n00bs to win.
it's obvious really.

[DR_NO]

I like you humor mightyal !!

But first my post was only :
- since few days did you have less chance on dices ?

The assumption of rank is only to try to explain what it happens.
The second assumption is a recent change in dices algorithm.

Or if random is based on sum of roll dices, change in db could impact roll dices.

My post is NOT:
" bouh I dont win -> this is the dices !"

Just i find that dices were difficult these last days ... and I want to share my opinion ..

so you re welcome


Maybe lack will explain this ... ??

[sully800]

like I said, these dice are just streaky. You will have good days where it seems you can't lose, and you will have terrible days where your strategy doesn't matter because you can do no good. In the last few days you've had poor dice and happened to notice it.

[cowshrptrn]

i've been getting much worse dice rolls, i lost 6 guys to conquer a country w/ 2 in it

[lilwdlnddude]

For me lately Ive been getting bad rolls, but winning more games. Kinda ironic...

[Pedronicus]

Game 54738 (Today)
Attacker rolls 1 2 1 Defender rolls 5 2
Attacker rolls 4 Defender rolls 4 4
Attacker rolls 2 Defender rolls 4 6
Attacker rolls 6 3 4 Defender rolls 3
Attacker rolls 1 2 4 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 4 6 2 Defender rolls 2
Attacker rolls 2 1 1 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 2 5 3 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 5 2 4 Defender rolls 6 4
Attacker rolls 1 5 4 Defender rolls 2 1
Attacker rolls 6 4 4 Defender rolls 5 1
Attacker rolls 5 4 4 Defender rolls 6 4
Attacker rolls 2 3 6 Defender rolls 4 2
Attacker rolls 4 3 4 Defender rolls 3 6
Attacker rolls 2 3 3 Defender rolls 2
Attacker rolls 3 3 6 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 6 1 5 Defender rolls 2


The dice are terrible at the moment

[evster]

Game 54738 (Today)
Attacker rolls 1 2 1 Defender rolls 5 2
Attacker rolls 4 Defender rolls 4 4
Attacker rolls 2 Defender rolls 4 6
Attacker rolls 6 3 4 Defender rolls 3
Attacker rolls 1 2 4 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 4 6 2 Defender rolls 2
Attacker rolls 2 1 1 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 2 5 3 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 5 2 4 Defender rolls 6 4
Attacker rolls 1 5 4 Defender rolls 2 1
Attacker rolls 6 4 4 Defender rolls 5 1
Attacker rolls 5 4 4 Defender rolls 6 4
Attacker rolls 2 3 6 Defender rolls 4 2
Attacker rolls 4 3 4 Defender rolls 3 6
Attacker rolls 2 3 3 Defender rolls 2
Attacker rolls 3 3 6 Defender rolls 4
Attacker rolls 6 1 5 Defender rolls 2


The dice are terrible at the moment

The defender had REALLY hot dice!

Some posibilities for the corruption of the arbitrary-ness of the dice:

]The more posts you have the better your rolls
The more posts you have about dice not being random, the worse your rolls are
The more you suck up the better the dice
The more you beat staches the better the dice
Conquerclub has become so popular that the dice algorythm is superheating the computer. When the dice computer goes down, it switches to a manual backup. The problem is, that those poor folk who have been outsourced to do the dice backup can't keep up. In fact, when you get your 3'rd four, it is really a 6 but the effort for the dice-worker is to great to hit th 6 key.

I think actually what must be happening is that a 7 sided dice has snuck into the mix and has corrupted everything..... everytime a 7 comes up, it is read as a 1.


ENOUGH ABOUT THE DICE. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. EVER BEEN TO VEGAS? ARE THE TABLES FIXED THERE TOO?

Ev

{p.s. sorry if I offend, didn't mean to. Too little sleep and too much dice discussion}

[AndyDufresne]

Maybe lack will explain this ... ??

I think he's explained the workings of the dice at Random.org enough. Investigate there for further readings.


--Andy

[reverend_kyle]

I think my dice have gotten worse since I got premium.. then agian I've jumped 200 points to lieutenant since then.

[Pedronicus]

msn messages 2 minutes ago...

Pedronicus @ Work says:
hi mate
Mister Ron says:
hi
Mister Ron says:
thse defending fuckin dice are a joke 26 -9 and just failed takin someone out
Mister Ron says:
left 1 on the board for the other guy to pick up 5 cards
Pedronicus @ Work says:
f*ck
Mister Ron says:
not happy
Pedronicus @ Work says:
52978


Pedronicus @ Work says:
have you got a set?
Mister Ron says:
no
Pedronicus @ Work says:
how many cards does pink have?
Mister Ron says:
2
Pedronicus @ Work says:
k


Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 2 1 5
Defender rolls 2 2
Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 6 2 4
Defender rolls 6 3
Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 5 4 2
Defender rolls 5 6
Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 4 3 1
Defender rolls 5 6
Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 3 3 2
Defender rolls 5 5
Mister Ron says:
not right is it?
Pedronicus @ Work says:
no way
Pedronicus @ Work says:
Attacker rolls 2 2
Defender rolls 6 3
Mister Ron says:
ssomething needs to be mentioned
Pedronicus @ Work says:
11 v 4 ends up 1 v 2

Pedronicus @ Work says:
but its fucking bollox dice
Mister Ron says:
they must have alog of averages on this

[Paulus]

I have been losing much more frequently lately. In fact, I started my first turn on an Ireland game and deployed my 3 armies in the territory of Offaly. I attacked Laois from Offaly and lost all my armies without taking Laois. So, I attacked Laois from Carlow and Kilkenny and lost all of my armies inthose territories as well without taking Laois. How can a person attack one territory from three different territories in one turn and not conquer that territory while losing all of your armies?? Ridiculous.
This is not an isolated incident where I've been screwed over by the dice. It seems now that I almost "always" lose two armies right off the bat when I attack another territory. It's pretty much a given now that I will lose two armies on my first attack of another territory. Does anyone else experience this as well?
I also seem to be losing battles that I should win more often. I mean battles where I have "at least" 7 or more armies more than the territory I am attacking.
I am beginning to consider using a new strategy on CC. Minimize my attacking and rely on the likelihood of others losing most or all of their armies attacking me or others because they're getting screwed over by the dice more often if I allow them to attack more often. Crazy..
All in all, it is possible that whatever controls or operates the dice on here is not balanced properly and I am "becoming" more likely to believe this is so.

[Fireside Poet]

Perhaps if you were named Zhukov instead of Paulus?