France [Quenched]

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:17 am

Wisse wrote:
edbeard wrote:nope. frankly whenever I see these 2 maps I think they are unnecessarily large, but that's just personal taste.

legend corners look good to me. I'm not gonna Wisse it and zoom in because well if I can't tell from this view it probably doesn't matter
the legend corners aren't all the same rounded, but i think it looks good now so it doesn't matter that much

well the rev broke it becasue i made them perfectly for him

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:22 am

reverend_kyle wrote:does anyone else feel like my mall map is too small. I constantly keep checking the size because it feels way small.

it's more big than small

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:24 am

It's looking pretty good, kyle.

I quite like the EiffelTower on the right, but the image on the bottom looks like it is of bad resolution. I'm not entirely sure it is needed either, maybe it's just my eyes!

--Andy

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:36 am

AndyDufresne wrote:It's looking pretty good, kyle.

I quite like the EiffelTower on the right, but the image on the bottom looks like it is of bad resolution. I'm not entirely sure it is needed either, maybe it's just my eyes!

--Andy

it isn't your eyes

jako · Post by **jako** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:49 pm

Wisse wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:It's looking pretty good, kyle.

I quite like the EiffelTower on the right, but the image on the bottom looks like it is of bad resolution. I'm not entirely sure it is needed either, maybe it's just my eyes!

--Andy
it isn't your eyes

yup, that bottom pic is pretty blurry and i have pretty vision myself

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:17 pm

gimil wrote:
Wisse wrote:
edbeard wrote:nope. frankly whenever I see these 2 maps I think they are unnecessarily large, but that's just personal taste.

legend corners look good to me. I'm not gonna Wisse it and zoom in because well if I can't tell from this view it probably doesn't matter
the legend corners aren't all the same rounded, but i think it looks good now so it doesn't matter that much
well the rev broke it becasue i made them perfectly for him

No, they complained after yours so I had go through and re round i

but wisse says it doesn't matter and looks good so that's not a holding back issue.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:18 pm

cairnswk wrote:reverend_kyle....hi
just doing some housekeeping...i assume your poll is ready to come down since i think it was started around page 23, and was only running for ten days.
Can you advise please.
if it is finished it will be removed.

get rid of it

thx

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:20 pm

jako wrote:
Wisse wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:It's looking pretty good, kyle.

I quite like the EiffelTower on the right, but the image on the bottom looks like it is of bad resolution. I'm not entirely sure it is needed either, maybe it's just my eyes!

--Andy
it isn't your eyes
yup, that bottom pic is pretty blurry and i have pretty vision myself

The blur is sort of on purpose, with the color and when I merged it under the text it made it look sort of blurry,but with it being an old building and all i thought it looked better so I left it.. if you think it looks bad i'll remove it but personally I like it.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:23 pm

Which Font options do you like the best?

Mother - 34% [ 10 ]
Corsica - 20% [ 6 ]
Alps - 27% [ 8 ]
Country - 17% [ 5 ]

Total Votes : 29

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:41 pm

reverend_kyle....comments if i may....i like this "soft approach" to your map. it feels to me like it has feeling like the french are famous for.

1. I think the two images are almost fine...is it possible to darken the bottom left one to balance against the tower, either that or lighten the tower a fraction.

2. yes the maps do look overly large perhaps, but since they are within current guidelines, not an issue.

3. the only thing that i would ask you to think about is the ordering of the legend. i found it strange to have to chase over the map to find the regions and associate them with the colours. Perhaps you could reorder them to work left to right down the map like:

Picardy
Alsace
Brittany
Centre
Burgundy
Pyrennes
Alps

if this has been already re-worked in the legend then no issue, i just think it might work better for players visually.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:42 pm

Feedback has been alot faster since they hired the new guys.

I would like to congratulate conquer club for hiring people with nothing better to do than stay on the computer all day

just kidding guys.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:45 pm

We do our best to get some good help.

Regarding the building, if you like it, I think it can stay. It doesn't necessarily detract from the map.

--Andy

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:52 pm

will test xml and post it tomorrow. i'm at work now.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:43 am

DiM wrote:will test xml and post it tomorrow. i'm at work now.

here is the xml http://www.sendspace.com/file/i63n8y

i have modified the names and the coordinates.

i have tested the small version and it looks good. but the large version somehow doesn't work.
when i load the large image it doesn't appear whole.
if somebody could verify that and upload a screenshot it would be great.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:33 am

DiM wrote:
DiM wrote:will test xml and post it tomorrow. i'm at work now.
here is the xml http://www.sendspace.com/file/i63n8y

i have modified the names and the coordinates.

i have tested the small version and it looks good. but the large version somehow doesn't work.
when i load the large image it doesn't appear whole.
if somebody could verify that and upload a screenshot it would be great.

large:

all the cordinates are off

small: (for others who want to see it)

i think these are off:
Pas de Calais, a bit more to the right
Cote d' Armor, place the text lable 1 px to the left
Saone et Liore, a bit more to the right and a bit more southwards
Puy de Dome, a bit more to the right and maybe one pixel southwards
Lozerre, a bit more to the right
Corsica, 1px to the right
Haut Rhin, a bit more to the right and 1 px northwards
Moselle, 1px to the right
Bas Rihn, a bitmore to the right

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:19 pm

Wisse wrote:large:
all the cordinates are off

that's exactly what i get in the tester. as you can see the coordinates seem to be off but i think that's because the map is not full it's somehow stretched and then cut. look at the large map you posted. you can't even see corsica on the map. that's the problem the map is not fully loaded in the tester. i'm sure the coordinates are ok but i can't verify it.

Wisse wrote:small:
i think these are off:
Pas de Calais, a bit more to the right

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the name

Cote d' Armor, place the text lable 1 px to the left

talk to rev kyle for that but if he moves it then it will be too close to finistere

Saone et Liore, a bit more to the right and a bit more southwards

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the name

Puy de Dome, a bit more to the right and maybe one pixel southwards

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the border

Lozerre, a bit more to the right

this will be done

Corsica, 1px to the right

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go off the map

Haut Rhin, a bit more to the right and 1 px northwards

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the border. but i will move it north 1px

Moselle, 1px to the right

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the border

Bas Rihn, a bitmore to the right

if i put it to the right then the 3 digit armies will go over the border.

i made all the coords with the triple digit armies in mind. yes they might look a bit off centered but i'd rather have them like that than overlaping names and borders.

and there are also others besides those you mentioned like calvados or ardennes but i have the same reason. the overlapping for 3 digit armies.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:22 pm

yeah i found out why the large version is wrong. i defined different width and height for the large in the xml. will correct it when i get home.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:32 am

cairnswk wrote:reverend_kyle....comments if i may....i like this "soft approach" to your map. it feels to me like it has feeling like the french are famous for.

1. I think the two images are almost fine...is it possible to darken the bottom left one to balance against the tower, either that or lighten the tower a fraction.

2. yes the maps do look overly large perhaps, but since they are within current guidelines, not an issue.

3. the only thing that i would ask you to think about is the ordering of the legend. i found it strange to have to chase over the map to find the regions and associate them with the colours. Perhaps you could reorder them to work left to right down the map like:

Picardy
Alsace
Brittany
Centre
Burgundy
Pyrennes
Alps

if this has been already re-worked in the legend then no issue, i just think it might work better for players visually.

I will darken the building but I don't want to reorder the legend. Is that fine? I know you just said think about it, and I think the cost would outweigh the benefit.

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:53 am

well could you make it so the continent title in the legend and the bonus number are on the same bottom level. Seems really weird to me that they are lined up properly

And, since you're doing that, you might as well order them properly as well.

I know it's tedious work, but it makes the outcome better. This might be obvious, but it's quite easy to do if you make long boxes for each separate level so that the continent and bonus are lined up. And, separate inbetween boxes to make sure spacing is done correctly is helpful as well.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:09 am

did you mean aren't lined up properly?

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:55 am

all that stuff I wrote hardly made sense after reading it again. haha. yes. please line them up properly!

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:02 am

ok this will give me some much needed practice with editing smart objects anyways.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:04 am

reverend_kyle wrote:ok this will give me some much needed practice with editing smart objects anyways.

reverend...i like that "style of positiveness"...good on you. Thanks.

and to edbeard also.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:57 am

ok dim i did think it was strange why you all did it much to the left but well if it is for that reason it seems good to me,

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:58 am

i have corrected all the coordinates for small and large and i have moved them around to make them as centered as possible but at the same time thinking of the triple digit armies. so some may seem off center but they are like that to accommodate the triple digits.

large test

small test

xml
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vrsnxf

small image:
http://i15.tinypic.com/4mwgr6f.jpg

large image:
http://i17.tinypic.com/67cxbus.jpg