Americans are NOT stupid

umanouski · Post by **umanouski** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:36 pm

luns101 wrote:
d.gishman wrote: Looking at that video, when I see kids walking on desks or talking out or doing other stupid things in class, I see a bunch of spoiled American kids who don't realize all the benefits that they have.
I wish there was enough $$ in the budget to force our kids to go to 3rd world countries and witness what tough times are really like.

I said it before and i shall say it again. Monopolies suck. Competition in public schools should be used. Otherwise, it wont change.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:13 pm

umanouski wrote:
luns101 wrote:
d.gishman wrote: Looking at that video, when I see kids walking on desks or talking out or doing other stupid things in class, I see a bunch of spoiled American kids who don't realize all the benefits that they have.
I wish there was enough $$ in the budget to force our kids to go to 3rd world countries and witness what tough times are really like.
I said it before and i shall say it again. Monopolies suck. Competition in public schools should be used. Otherwise, it wont change.

If kids don't want to go to school, then fine. The world needs ditch diggers.

However, it is worth noting that several High School dropouts did go on to have successful careers. Peter Jennings and Woodrow Wilson spring to mind.

Plato said it best, "Physical exertion under compulsion does no harm to the body, but knowledge obtained under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind."

All public schooling does (and I should know because I went through the sausage mill that is the modern High School) is teach kids how to do the minimum necessary to get by. There's no added bonus for applying yourself or being creative, so nobody bothers. They just do the least amount of work necessary to pass with a decent grade.

Unless they're trying to get into college, then they overload themselves with useless AP classes and more extracurricular activities than there are books in the Bible. Then they snap under the pressure and either drop out altogether or throw themselves into their work and forget how to have a life outside of school.

Fortunately, I escaped from the Necropolis that is the public school system and finished my last semester's worth of High School at a local community college. I did it in a week. Five months worth of class. Done in one single week. At my own pace.

Real challenging stuff, that high school work. So challenging and engaging that I polished it off in the same frame of time it took some to read the last Harry Potter book.

I support things like school vouchers for the same reason I use UPS instead of the US Postal Service. Supporting the competition forces the monopoly to raise its standards and improve.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:19 am

MeDeFe wrote:That's one of the scariest things I ever saw, 18 years and barely able to read. I mean, I was reading fluently (though not writing) when finished kindergarten. After 2nd grade everyone was reading fluently in my class. And what the hell do they need a gym and a swimming-pool like that for? If every class had 5 or 6 hours of PE every week it might be appropriate, but I guess that's not the case.

I could read at the age of 5.
And Australia was number 5! Go the public education in Australia

AndrewLC · Post by **AndrewLC** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:18 am

As a Brit living in America I must say Americans are retards. I was asked once what language they spoke in ENGLAND

And somebody thought England was part of Canada

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:21 am

AndrewLC wrote:As a Brit living in America I must say Americans are retards. I was asked once what language they spoke in ENGLAND

And somebody thought England was part of Canada

Holy shit.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:48 am

Iliad wrote:
AndrewLC wrote:As a Brit living in America I must say Americans are retards. I was asked once what language they spoke in ENGLAND

And somebody thought England was part of Canada
Holy shit.

Don't be surprised, I was a TA in English 4 my senior year and I got to read some of the papers other seniors wrote. Let me tell you, Americans can't write worth shit they make tons of mistakes in their own language. The worst part of all is they are extremely lazy, if the assignment is minimum of 1000 words then the will only be 1000 words in their papers(Including name and the date). It's just sad.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:58 am

Iliad wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:That's one of the scariest things I ever saw, 18 years and barely able to read. I mean, I was reading fluently (though not writing) when finished kindergarten. After 2nd grade everyone was reading fluently in my class. And what the hell do they need a gym and a swimming-pool like that for? If every class had 5 or 6 hours of PE every week it might be appropriate, but I guess that's not the case.
I could read at the age of 5.
And Australia was number 5! Go the public education in Australia

Public Education, it's our future

Ah, you gotta love the corny lines of society.

Fo Sho · Post by **Fo Sho** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:00 am

I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:06 am

Fo Sho wrote:I also have many friends in america I consider idiots...

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:15 am

Fo Sho wrote:I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.

Of course, there are ignorant (I wouldn't say they are stupid, just ignorant) people everywhere, but we are discussing why there are so many of them in US.

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:38 am

High Guard wrote:
Fo Sho wrote:I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.
Of course, there are ignorant (I wouldn't say they are stupid, just ignorant) people everywhere, but we are discussing why there are so many of them in US.

Exactly. The proportion in USA is jsut too high.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am

Titanic wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Fo Sho wrote:I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.
Of course, there are ignorant (I wouldn't say they are stupid, just ignorant) people everywhere, but we are discussing why there are so many of them in US.
Exactly. The proportion in USA is jsut too high.

"Birds of a feather flock together" ;)

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:39 am

MeDeFe wrote:
Titanic wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Fo Sho wrote:I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.
Of course, there are ignorant (I wouldn't say they are stupid, just ignorant) people everywhere, but we are discussing why there are so many of them in US.
Exactly. The proportion in USA is jsut too high.
"Birds of a feather flock together"

lol true, but its worrying that the most powerful nation is also the stupidest in the civilised(sp) world. i mean star wars is a true story- WTF.

Iz Man · Post by **Iz Man** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:44 am

Ignorance really must be bliss........

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:57 am

yeah i imagine its great to think all that stuff, must be a happy world of them...

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:09 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Titanic wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Fo Sho wrote:I've been to several european countries as well, and I've met plenty of stupid people over there. I also have many friends in america I consider idiots... The fact is people that no matter where you go, you will have the smart and the stupid, the informed and the ignorant, and so on and so forth. The fact that all americans are lazy and stupid is absolutely ridiculous stereotype. I come from a pretty small town, where most of the people are ranchers or farmers... People (including me) literally get up at dawn most days, and work till dusk. This is a stupid thread, made by a stupid person.
Of course, there are ignorant (I wouldn't say they are stupid, just ignorant) people everywhere, but we are discussing why there are so many of them in US.
Exactly. The proportion in USA is jsut too high.
"Birds of a feather flock together"
lol true, but its worrying that the most powerful nation is also the stupidest in the civilised(sp) world. i mean star wars is a true story- WTF.

Okay little boy. WTF do you know about smarts you snotlicker? You think we got to be the most powerful and influential nation in the world by being the stupidest? You people really are blind. Of course there are the uninformed and just plain stupid in America but those would be the poor and religous among us. Some, if not most, of the great scientists, authors, musicians, artists, engineers, etc. are American. Why dont you thank the Americans for inventing the Internet you use to bash us on? Pukes.

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:15 am

man u really cant take a joke. people bash the uk all the time and so what i dont care...and dont come on here judging me by my age. so what is it to you im only 17, nothing so dont incude it in your petty arguement against me.

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:31 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:man u really cant take a joke. people bash the uk all the time and so what i dont care...and dont come on here judging me by my age. so what is it to you im only 17, nothing so dont incude it in your petty arguement against me.

When has anyone bashed the UK here? I dont see any threads titled "Brits are Idiots". Sorry to flame you for your age. Afetr 15 pages of holding my tongue I had to bash someone.

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:35 am

lol its okay. and i didnt just mean cc i meant on the web although i think its come up in other threads sumin about the british

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:05 am

... The U.S. needs to go metric.

... What's up with all this inches, feet, yards and miles? Pints and gallons?

... Make the switch, and in a year's time, everybody will be used to it. 2 years max, for the stupid folks.

...

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:47 am

Why dont you thank the Americans for inventing the Internet you use to bash us on? Pukes.

Sir Tim Berners-Lee

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:01 pm

Titanic wrote:
Why dont you thank the Americans for inventing the Internet you use to bash us on? Pukes.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee

He helped to facilitate the creation of the world wide web in the 80's. I'm talking about the internet which was created in the US by MIT scientists with DARPA. Wayyyyy before CERN.

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:11 pm

Dmunster wrote:
Titanic wrote:
Why dont you thank the Americans for inventing the Internet you use to bash us on? Pukes.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee
He helped to facilitate the creation of the world wide web in the 80's. I'm talking about the internet which was created in the US by MIT scientists with DARPA. Wayyyyy before CERN.

He was the 90's, not the 80's. The internet as we know it today is solely down to his ideas and his creations.

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:18 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... The U.S. needs to go metric.

... What's up with all this inches, feet, yards and miles? Pints and gallons?

... Make the switch, and in a year's time, everybody will be used to it. 2 years max, for the stupid folks.

...

We don't 'need' to go metric, some people use it anyway, but most people like it the way it is.

Dmunster · Post by **Dmunster** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:21 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... The U.S. needs to go metric.

... What's up with all this inches, feet, yards and miles? Pints and gallons?

... Make the switch, and in a year's time, everybody will be used to it. 2 years max, for the stupid folks.

...
We don't 'need' to go metric, some people use it anyway, but most people like it the way it is.

I use metrics to calculate all of my drug transactions...