Americans are NOT stupid

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:50 pm

umanouski wrote:
luns101 wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:Okay...i knew Americans aren't the brightest on the planet...i knew that they are woefully uneducated, especially in history...but seriously people! i have lost all faith in America...
I have heard of this place called America. I'm sure I can find it on a map someplace if you give me enough time. The only thing I know from reading most of the posts here on CC is that it is responsible for most of the problems in the world.
Don't use America as a scapegoat. Don't forget, England did the same thing. So did Spain before England. It's just a cycle.

Firstly, he was being sarcastic. Secondly, the fact that other nations have exercised colonialism doesn't make it right. Other nations practised slavery for centuries, but that doesn't make it OK for it to continue does it?

Jenos Ridan · Post by **Jenos Ridan** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:02 pm

umanouski wrote:
luns101 wrote:
s.xkitten wrote:Okay...i knew Americans aren't the brightest on the planet...i knew that they are woefully uneducated, especially in history...but seriously people! i have lost all faith in America...
I have heard of this place called America. I'm sure I can find it on a map someplace if you give me enough time. The only thing I know from reading most of the posts here on CC is that it is responsible for most of the problems in the world.
Don't use America as a scapegoat. Don't forget, England did the same thing. So did Spain before England. It's just a cycle.

He's being sarcastic, as he is FROM America.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:06 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Yes, but, how many people did they have to interview to find those few?

Exactly, you could pull this same stunt on any country.

Jenos Ridan · Post by **Jenos Ridan** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:19 pm

Coleman wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Yes, but, how many people did they have to interview to find those few?
Exactly, you could pull this same stunt on any country.

Especially (saddly) in the 'third world'.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:15 am

I was born in Ukraine and lived there until 4 years ago when I moved to U.S. Since I came here I have met a lot of idiots and a lot of smart people, it all depends on dedication to education, if someone wants to be ignorant there is a "great" education system here to help them stay that way. American education system is 26th in the world and throwing money at it won't make it better. New methods have to be implemented, harder classes, parents need to be more involved and maybe then we'll see some change.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:42 am

To High Guard: When I taught 7th grade World History in San Diego, there were many parents who just didn't care about their student's progress. They looked at the public school system as a baby-sitter. They somehow expected the teacher to perform a miracle with their kid, and took an "it's your problem, not mine" attitude. So what I'm saying is...your point about parents becoming more involved is very well taken!

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:52 am

luns101 wrote:To High Guard: When I taught 7th grade World History in San Diego, there were many parents who just didn't care about their student's progress. They looked at the public school system as a baby-sitter. They somehow expected the teacher to perform a miracle with their kid, and took an "it's your problem, not mine" attitude. So what I'm saying is...your point about parents becoming more involved is very well taken!

Thank you, back when I was in Ukraine if I got C or lower I got spanked, grounded, and and then my parents would help me with what ever I needed help with. Every time a teacher would enter the classroom all students stood up and greeted him/her. No one ever swore or disrespected the teachers because they would get into big problems if they did. There was always a lot of homework and classes were actually challenging and students still found time to relax and party. Ukraine has the worlds 4th best education system, so I think U.S. can learn a lesson from us.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:00 am

High Guard, do you know a site where you can find out what countries have the best education systems? I'm quite curious.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:03 am

Skittles! wrote:High Guard, do you know a site where you can find out what countries have the best education systems? I'm quite curious.

Sorry I got my information from 20/20m and a report I read about education (CIA I think). Let me see if I can find anything on the web.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:13 am

High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:High Guard, do you know a site where you can find out what countries have the best education systems? I'm quite curious.
Sorry I got my information from 20/20m and a report I read about education (CIA I think). Let me see if I can find anything on the web.

Can't find anything right now, but the report was published by UNICEF, that should give you a start.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:17 am

Ah, okay thanks for that. I'll look at UNICEF then.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:20 am

Skittles! wrote:Ah, okay thanks for that. I'll look at UNICEF then.

No problem, here found 1 article related to it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/ ... 0872.shtml

Jenos Ridan · Post by **Jenos Ridan** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:20 am

Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:23 am

High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Ah, okay thanks for that. I'll look at UNICEF then.
No problem, here found 1 article related to it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/ ... 0872.shtml

Not exactly what I was looking for, but that was close enough. I never thought South Korea would be there, strangely.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:23 am

Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).

There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:24 am

suicide, maybe.
Seppuku, I doubt it. Very much. Check it on wikipedia and you'll see why.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:24 am

High Guard wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).
There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....

Times like this I wish I could read Russian.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:25 am

Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Ah, okay thanks for that. I'll look at UNICEF then.
No problem, here found 1 article related to it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/ ... 0872.shtml
Not exactly what I was looking for, but that was close enough. I never thought South Korea would be there, strangely.

SK has the determination and resources, I wasn't surprised at all to see them #1 in education.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:28 am

Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).
There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....
Times like this I wish I could read Russian.

It's part of USSR National anthem.
Here is a translation of that part:

Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand.
Created in struggle by will of the people,
United and mighty, our Soviet land!

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:31 am

High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).
There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....
Times like this I wish I could read Russian.
It's part of USSR National anthem.
Here is a translation of that part:

Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand.
Created in struggle by will of the people,
United and mighty, our Soviet land!

Interesting. Why can't modern National Anthems be more like that?

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:35 am

The national anthem of the DDR (when it still existed) ain't bad either.

Jenos Ridan · Post by **Jenos Ridan** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:36 am

MeDeFe wrote:suicide, maybe.
Seppuku, I doubt it. Very much. Check it on wikipedia and you'll see why.

I don't Wiki for this kind of information.

High Guard · Post by **High Guard** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:38 am

Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).
There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....
Times like this I wish I could read Russian.
It's part of USSR National anthem.
Here is a translation of that part:

Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand.
Created in struggle by will of the people,
United and mighty, our Soviet land!
Interesting. Why can't modern National Anthems be more like that?

If you mean short, that's only 1part.
If you mean empowering, then yes it is. Here you should listen it russian

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28560

It's my favorite anthem.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:39 am

Seppuku involves cutting your own stomach open and stuff like that, I don't think students of any age are into that.

Jenos Ridan · Post by **Jenos Ridan** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:39 am

Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
High Guard wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:Not sure how high Japan is, but the students there take school very seriously. So much so that they commit sepuku (cringing at the fear I mispelled it) if they feel that they've fail baddly. As a consequence, they have a high rate of teen suicide.

But still, the education system in America has failed to deliver. Sad, since we were the leading nation since WWII and beat down the Soviets (who I fear, from the news out of Moscow these days, are returning).
There is no need to fear, and yes we are returning

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!.....
Times like this I wish I could read Russian.
It's part of USSR National anthem.
Here is a translation of that part:

Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand.
Created in struggle by will of the people,
United and mighty, our Soviet land!
Interesting. Why can't modern National Anthems be more like that?

Because most are not blatant propaganda and were written more than a hundred years ago.

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