Fast Food

[dustn64]

you're missing the point

I'll simplify it

If you go out and kill an animal in the wild by yourself, bring it home and skin it, clean it, prepare it and feed it to your family, that's fine.

I have a problem with the whole meat industry where animals are treated no better than stock in a warehouse, as commidities. It's unnatural and the fact is if people had to kill their own meat to eat it, more people would be vegetarians

Do you live on a big plantation and pick every vegetable yourself?

[Gold Knight]

I already know what happens to the animal... they kill it. Big deal, does it make it better when you kill a plant that it doesnt bleed? Just because a corn stalk doesnt scream when it gets cut doesnt mean that its not hurting the plant.

That's a stupid arguement that meat eaters pull out all the time. Vegetables and fruit are completely different to animals

PLUS - to underline what i previously mentioned, I don't have a problem with the eating of meat in a natural cycle.. Fast food comapanies and the current Meat industry is NOT natural in the slightest.. That is my problem

They're both alive before eaten, arent they? As i said, just because it doesnt walk around doesnt mean its the right thing to kill.

And i can completely understand if a person were to be a vegetarian because they want to be healthy or whatever, but that argument you bring up is "A stupid argument that plant eaters pull out all the time". No food companies make their food the natural way. If we were, we'd have to wait for it all to die. Cutting up the animal yourself does not make the process natural in the slightest. All your doing is taking away a animal's life instead of a company doing it.

[radiojake]

In my first post in the topic i said i didn't want to make it a vegetarian/vegan rant... just merely that people who eat McDonald's/KFC etc are ignorant fucks


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[Hitman079]

In my first post in the topic i said i didn't want to make it a vegetarian/vegan rant... just merely that people who eat McDonald's/KFC etc are ignorant fucks


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how?
*radiojake's entire point crumbles*

[Skittles!]

I don't eat much, i mean that, fast food. Probably. once in 8 months, maybe twice. I hate the stuff.
After buying a quarter pounder from macdonalds, and reading the packet, saying they buy 18,000,000 kgs of beef a year for Australia alone.. kinda just put me off. How many fucking cows did they kill for that? god..

[radiojake]

In my first post in the topic i said i didn't want to make it a vegetarian/vegan rant... just merely that people who eat McDonald's/KFC etc are ignorant fucks


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how?
*radiojake's entire point crumbles*

Shit, i have to spell it out for everyone??? Do i really need to explain why eating McDonald's is fucked up??

[Skittles!]

In my first post in the topic i said i didn't want to make it a vegetarian/vegan rant... just merely that people who eat McDonald's/KFC etc are ignorant fucks


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how?
*radiojake's entire point crumbles*

Shit, i have to spell it out for everyone??? Do i really need to explain why eating McDonald's is fucked up??

I think you do. Many people would of had McDonald's their whole life, and just eat it as a normal thing, and not wonder how it got there.

[riggable]

In my first post in the topic i said i didn't want to make it a vegetarian/vegan rant... just merely that people who eat McDonald's/KFC etc are ignorant fucks


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how?
*radiojake's entire point crumbles*

Shit, i have to spell it out for everyone??? Do i really need to explain why eating McDonald's is fucked up??

Yes, Yes you do. I mean, its not like Mcdonalds is healthy for you, but then again, go to any restaurant for dinner and you consume 1,000 calories anyways, so that argument is gone. Now to the moral issue. Cows have been kept in captivity for a really long time now. Whens the last time you have herd(haha) of wild cows? It doesn't happen anymore. Cows are a domesiticated animal, born and bred and fed IN ORDER to feed the human population. There are Cow farms and Cow Pastures and Cow pens and Cow slaughterhouses all made just for the specific point of FEEDING HUMANS. Mcdonalds, Burger KING etc are just very large, popular industries that utilize this form of food, and thus need a very large supply in order to meet their demand.

Morally, I see it no differently than Growing a large field of Corn, and then taking that corn and cooking it alive in boiling hot water. The only difference is, a large field of corn could give 1000 pounds of food, whereas a Large cow pasture could produce Tens of Thousands of pounds of meat, as well as gallons and gallons of milk, which in turn can be made into a whole plethra of dairy products.


Mm, a burger and millkshake, delicious.

[riggable]

and let me reiterate, Im all against the killing of wild animals. I, for instance, Abhorr Whale Hunting or Chimpanzee hunting, or large wild fishing rigs, as well as the cutting down of any rainforests. However, killing a raised-in-captivity domesticated farm animal in order to feed other people isnt as bad in my book.


Kill cows, not whales.

[radiojake]

Actually, if you want to get technical, the amount of water and grain that goes into feeding cows would feed a lot more people than the beef that is produced from that one cow.

Just because humans have been slaughtering cows on a massive scale for a long time doesn't make it right. Meat is a meal based on tradition rather than neccesity. You don't need meat to survive, so why do it?

[Skittles!]

Actually, if you want to get technical, the amount of water and grain that goes into feeding cows would feed a lot more people than the beef that is produced from that one cow.

Just because humans have been slaughtering cows on a massive scale for a long time doesn't make it right. Meat is a meal based on tradition rather than neccesity. You don't need meat to survive, so why do it?

We need Iron though, and protein, and all this other stuff from meat, but then you can say we have tablets for all those things. But how many people can swallow tablets? Not many children can.

[radiojake]

Nuts (such as cashews) green leafy vegetables (spinach etc) lentils and beans (kidney etc), eaten along with a good source of vitamin C (ie tomatoes) will suply enough iron to a humans body. I rarely use vitamin suppliments

[Skittles!]

Ah yeah, i remembered that, but then I forgot it. damn. And you can't forget your mushrooms!

[radiojake]

Ah yeah, i remembered that, but then I forgot it. damn. And you can't forget your mushrooms!

I did!
and yes, mushrooms.

Like Hewie from Hewies cooking adventures says in the mushroom ad (here in australia anyway) "Mushrooms.... its meat for vegetarians"

[Skittles!]

Ah yeah, i remembered that, but then I forgot it. damn. And you can't forget your mushrooms!

I did!
and yes, mushrooms.

Like Hewie from Hewies cooking adventures says in the mushroom ad (here in australia anyway) "Mushrooms.... its meat for vegetarians"

You actually watch that show?

[Jehan]

Actually, if you want to get technical, the amount of water and grain that goes into feeding cows would feed a lot more people than the beef that is produced from that one cow.

Just because humans have been slaughtering cows on a massive scale for a long time doesn't make it right. Meat is a meal based on tradition rather than neccesity. You don't need meat to survive, so why do it?

cos it tastes good, mmmm steak, I'm gonna go eat one right now, mmm, srs though i'm just messin, i tease my vegetarian friend as well and he like you probably do now, just thinks I'm an idiot.

[radiojake]

Ah yeah, i remembered that, but then I forgot it. damn. And you can't forget your mushrooms!

I did!
and yes, mushrooms.

Like Hewie from Hewies cooking adventures says in the mushroom ad (here in australia anyway) "Mushrooms.... its meat for vegetarians"

You actually watch that show?

God no, but he did that horrible ad, i think it was for Bi-Lo and he was selling mushrooms.. i remembered it because it annoyed me so much

[Skittles!]

Ah yeah, i remembered that, but then I forgot it. damn. And you can't forget your mushrooms!

I did!
and yes, mushrooms.

Like Hewie from Hewies cooking adventures says in the mushroom ad (here in australia anyway) "Mushrooms.... its meat for vegetarians"

You actually watch that show?

God no, but he did that horrible ad, i think it was for Bi-Lo and he was selling mushrooms.. i remembered it because it annoyed me so much

Ah yes, he and his crappy Bi-Lo ads. "Save more, every Wednesday!"

[Jehan]

oporto is overpriced but is quite good, i guess only sydneysiders would know about that.

[Skittles!]

oporto is overpriced but is quite good, i guess only sydneysiders would know about that.

I'm just north of Sydney, but I've never had Oporto, even if it is just some little while away.

[Jehan]

dude ive had it like once and i live pretty close to some, but it was good, just a bit expensive for fast food, i guess they're all getting like that though.

[radiojake]

Oporto - there's one in Newtown in Sydney.. that place was pretty good for table diving... never actually bought food from there so don't know how expensive it would be... but people leave food on tables all the time there so its cool in that sense... plus if we're ever in sydney we'd be on tour and have no money so table diving is sweet

[dustn64]

did you get own3d with our questions? (mine and gold knights)

[Nomad11]

I haven't read the thread and am jumping in.

My favorite is the one with the clip coupon from Sunday papers.

[Dmunster]

did you get own3d with our questions? (mine and gold knights)

Do you live on a big plantation and pick every vegetable yourself?

Wow, pwnage, lol.

I voted Taco Bell because they have a good selection for non-meateaters. It seems like Radio and I dont eat meat for the same reason, the environment. The ammount of resources to raise a cow to maturity is silly:

Of all the agricultural land in the U.S., 80 percent is used to raise animals for food and grow the grain to feed them—that’s almost half the total land mass of the lower 48 states.(27) Chickens, pigs, cattle, and other animals raised for food are the primary consumers of water in the U.S.; for example, it takes more than 1,250 gallons of water to produce a pound of cow flesh, whereas it takes about 235 gallons of water to grow 1 pound of wheat.(28)

I know we are omnivores but we are rapidly overpopulating this planet and eating meat is very selfish.

They're both alive before eaten, arent they? As i said, just because it doesnt walk around doesnt mean its the right thing to kill.

You cant be serious... maybe you havent taken high school biology... A plant lacks a central nervous system and thus the ability to comprehend pain. Not even that thats the reason I dont eat meat.