2v1

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:06 am

in a few games I've started with an early advantage due to troop placement, an by round fifteen or so i have a significant sized army with few, well defended borders and moderate to large continent bonuses. as i usually play 3 player games an the other two notice my expansion and call a truce for three to five rounds and attack only me. i always try to tell them if they want to play doubles play doubles but not in a three player game, this only works about one out of every ten times though. what should i do to combat this strategy?

chessplaya · Post by **chessplaya** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:59 am

all u have to do is try to reverse it

example try to play the mentality of the 2 other players

example: blue u do realise if u attack my armies u and i will both lose and green will take over... he will take u out by the next chance etc. etc.

but if the 2 dont care and still cooporate then u can roll dead for the rest of the game

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:08 am

all legitimate as long as both play it smart and know when to stop. That is, as soon as the balance has been restored.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:50 am

MeDeFe wrote:all legitimate as long as both play it smart and know when to stop. That is, as soon as the balance has been restored.

the problem is sometimes they take it too far and they don't stop until they kill you

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:51 am

DiM wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:all legitimate as long as both play it smart and know when to stop. That is, as soon as the balance has been restored.
the problem is sometimes they take it too far and they don't stop until they kill you

story of your life

Elwar · Post by **Elwar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:59 am

Don't look like a threat, I mean, announcing an alliance in such situation is probably only formalising what they were going to do anyway. Why would they keep attacking each other when theres a growing shadow over their shoulders?

cjoe · Post by **cjoe** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:07 am

kill them quickly...seriously. I don't do too badly in 3 player games, but my basic strategy is to become very strong quickly. As an example, on classic, if you have oceania, you might want to reconsider the slow build up and amassing troops in favour of a quick burst that maybe takes over another continent, pref. Asia (of course you need to read the situation properely) but I've done this successfully in the third round and you usually only need 1 round with a big bonus to make all the difference. When you have Oceania, in most cases the other 2 opponents are trying to establish themselves in Africa and South America respectively, this is the best time to make your move, it's unexpected (well not after this) and their troops are usually in no position to wrestle your bonus away from you until the next round, which is usually too late.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:23 am

Always focus on just one of your two opponents. If you try to divide your attention between the two of them or hold your position you will fail. Most of the time you can turn it into a 1v1 situation where you still have the advantage either by being successful in killing one yourself, or making one of them weak enough that the other person does it for you.

civver · Post by **civver** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:10 am

Try to turn them on each other. If that fails, try to kill one of them. If that fails, just launch an all out attack. If one of the two wins, bash the other one in game chat. And most important of all, remember that this is just a game.

MR. Nate · Post by **MR. Nate** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:14 am

Kill the weakest, and turn in their cards to keep the stronger off balence. Waiting for them to chip away rarely, if ever works.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:31 am

Stop looking like a threat. Or stop playing 3 player games.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:27 am

The1exile wrote:Stop looking like a threat. Or stop playing 3 player games.

While this was probably intended to be a ridiculous negative suggestion with no merit he has somewhat of a point. In 3 player games it is actually usually best to be in 2nd place and to be vocal about not being in first place. The weakest player will probably help you.

Some people have a hard time pointing out they aren't winning without coming off as negative, and any diplomatically skilled winning player will try to either denounce your claim or flip it around, so if you don't have the diplomatic skill necessary to pull it off don't say anything.

jako · Post by **jako** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:06 pm

i would have to agree with exile. by playing a 3 way like i do a lot, u know that either u ar the 1 strong player or one of the weaker 2 players. there is no way around it. most of the time, u will get 2 players going at it, and the third of left alone to grow stronger. soon the other 2 players will realize this and force a truce among themselves. pretty soon, if they have successfully weakend the third strongest player, then one of them will go for the kill and try to take out the remaining player.

so if u really ar looking for the answer on how to stop this from happening, either dont be the strongest in a 3 way or stop playing 3 ways.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:13 pm

Coleman wrote:
The1exile wrote:Stop looking like a threat. Or stop playing 3 player games.
While this was probably intended to be a ridiculous negative suggestion with no merit he has somewhat of a point.

Actully, it was intended to have a point.

If you can't hold yourself being first, then don't be first. best thing to do is to withdraw from the battleground, let the other two duke it out and get ready to wipe out the weaker one before they have a chance to put aside their differences and work on killing you.

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:18 pm

so basically to keep this from happening you try to stay in second wait for a card bonus then quickly overtake 1 player. but if it already happened hope you get lucky and 1 gets too weak or just decides to stop.