Blackpool Manor Dinner: D3 - LAFITE GRAND CRU WITH A FINE ROAST BIRD!

[SoN!c]

Official vote count

Annieh: 1 by Goose Canon

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

8 votes are in play!

[annieh]

8 votes! My, my, my...

[hjelp]

Official vote count

Annieh: 1 by Goose Canon

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

8 votes are in play!

If eight alive - and Charle doesn't have a vote -> 7 votes or does Charle have a vote again? If so that will be good,

[Loose Canon]

Hjelp

Voted out stays revealed with no vote counts as house.

therefore charle is alive and adds to the 7 players but in becoming the 8 means house has to get 5 of the 7 for a correct lynch, and so charle makes it uphill for house.
If we mislynch , circle kills, circle wins because 5 + charle means 6 therefore 4 needed for lynch but 2 of the 5 would be circle.

Katy and zulu should give reasons for whatever they do from here on, there reasoning should be challenged by the more experienced players, and the challenging will not necessarily mean suspecting.
One of katy and zulu at least have to be house, but house is playing on a knifedge.

Annie chose a filler post rather than challenge her circle slip. But circle slip it was.

[Loose Canon]

I have by the way slightly adjusted down my suspicion of bunny as being the 2nd circle player with annie, but she is my prime suspect as the 2nd.
A house bunny with a circle annie would face an uphill task as would house consequentially, but i for one could be persuaded on bunny depending on what players say.

[Ragian]

No, Loose! What the hell? I call out Katy for a vote on Annie and you walk right down the same weird path next. Are you basing this on the off chance that Annie scumslipped when she mocked Devante? Surely not. You MUST have something. Otherwise, this won't go.

That said, I do think that you have pointed to something valuable. Especially if Circle has day chat, they would make sure to get on the Devante lynch for distance. I would've done so myself. An inexperienced scumster might either limp in towards the end or not get on the lynch at all, hoping that it would all go away. Or a loosely playing scumster might try to steer the unchallenged guilty verdict that produced a scum lynch off the cliff.

Any takers?

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Unimportant point: Why is everyone discounting Charle? Wasn't his vote just gone D2?

[Ragian]

By the bye, thank you for the congratulatory remarks. My passive-aggressive comment was in jest. A job is a means to an end. Nothing more. Students here are nice, though.

[annieh]

I criticized the post Devante made saying Bunnie was just fixated on him already. That is why I paraphrased to "full of shit."

It's abundantly clear that LC is applying an entirely different level of scrutiny to my posts than he did to Dev's. I deliver the patron on a silver platter the minute you ask for help and it's a 4D chess scum play? Of course it wasn't.

Loose misses the host saying 8 votes in play, misses me saying wow 8 votes, explains how it's still 7 votes, and yet asks us to believe he has profound insight into scum schemes? With egg still on his face from the Charle 10 minute FP theory? I say try to get your head around the things written in black and white first.

We vote LC out today, or we gamble he's the one that used his kill (because he had to be so overt and obvious once I caught Dev) and try to find the accomplice before that person uses their kill.

Tl;dr: Loose's goose is cooked, Charle can probably vote, please discuss relative merits of having lc voted out next vs accomplice hunting.

[SoN!c]

As game host i must say Annieh's and Hottbunnie's latest post about The Goose are the most fun to read all game day long..

But if we want a real game then from now on out: @all: please ignore the Goose Bird. Just drink the Lafite.

If i was part of CIA and needed a farfetched paranoid conspiracy theory nobody believed i call Ghostbusters Goose Inc.




Play ball!

[SoN!c]

Loose misses the host saying 8 votes in play, misses me saying wow 8 votes, explains how it's still 7 votes, and yet asks us to believe he has profound insight into scum schemes? With egg still on his face from the Charle 10 minute FP theory?

TOO FUNNY

IT CAN'T GET BETTER THEN THIS! TRY WATCHING TV AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THIS FUNNY ALL YOUR LIFE! IT WON'T HAPPEN!!!

[SoN!c]

It's D3 : It's fine roast bird (but the Chef said: "please no goose").

"We are serving a very fine turkey" or a "La Bresse" poultry. "No goose", "heavens no"..

No way a goose is fine dining etiquette to be served with a Lafite!

[SoN!c]

When asked the Chef what would be the best paring to a 1895 Château Lafite Rothschild
Pauillac (Premier Grand Cru Classé) his answer was:



For a 1895 Château Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac Premier Grand Cru Classé, my first choice would be roast wood pigeon (squab), ideally served with a refined game jus.

The 1985 is a great vintage, with the structure, depth and elegance to accompany fine game birds. You want a bird with character, but not an overpowering preparation.

My four finest pairings


1. Wood pigeon –

Pink breast, gently roasted, with celeriac purée, wild mushrooms, a little black truffle and a restrained game jus.

Elegant, earthy and beautifully suited to mature Pauillac.

Suprême de faisan rôti à la sauce salmis

2. Season Pheasant

Roasted pheasant with chestnuts, morels and a delicate jus. Particularly good if the wine has developed cedar, tobacco and forest-floor

3. Wild young duck (mallard)

Pink breast, lightly roasted, with a restrained blackberry or elderberry sauce. A lovely match for Lafite's cassis and dark-fruit character.

4. The best choice however would be La Bresse. Its naturally rich, delicate flavour complements Lafite's elegance.

The succulent meat and roasted skin work beautifully with mature Cabernet Sauvignon.

It has enough character without overpowering the wine.

My ideal preparation of the La Bresse would be:

Poulet de Bresse rôti, served with:

Morel mushrooms (morilles).

A light jus de volaille, ideally with a little Madeira.

Celeriac purée.

A few roasted baby onions.

But whatever you do do not have the old goose please.

[Loose Canon]

No, Loose! What the hell? I call out Katy for a vote on Annie and you walk right down the same weird path next. Are you basing this on the off chance that Annie scumslipped when she mocked Devante? Surely not. You MUST have something. Otherwise, this won't go.

That said, I do think that you have pointed to something valuable. Especially if Circle has day chat, they would make sure to get on the Devante lynch for distance. I would've done so myself. An inexperienced scumster might either limp in towards the end or not get on the lynch at all, hoping that it would all go away. Or a loosely playing scumster might try to steer the unchallenged guilty verdict that produced a scum lynch off the cliff.

Any takers?

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Unimportant point: Why is everyone discounting Charle? Wasn't his vote just gone D2?

I called out katy for not justifying lifting her vote on annie after you had called her out for not justifying her initial vote on annie.i might have called her out re initial vote too. I have also been asking zulu and katy to give reasoning. I actually care less about either of them having "incorrect" rationales, and more that they show coming from a good place thinking behind their actions. We have to ask each to explain why they are doing what from now on so we can try to point out why their logic or reads may be flawed, AND at the same time assess them for their coming from a good place honesty.

Yes i do think Annie seriously circleslipped. I am asking you to give that proposition serious consideration in the whole. You said d1 you were depending on me. House is i think depending on you. Discount totally first of all annies "investigative" result on dev and assess her irrespective of that.
On me would i go for annie if i didnt believe it - risk rewards dont stack up for me. The annie slip came in the course of this is a not clearcut at all challenging by me to annie et al. I was challenging annie at that point because i thought either or game over if wrong.
Also ask yourself why homer was killed instead of you.
Homer demonstrated circumspection on the dev lynch you and hjelp were not going to change your mind. The demonstrated circumspection was more dangerous to the circle on circle play.
There is of course why not kill annie but i have a different answer to that than i think you will although both would be valid propositions.

Charle counts in the number of players and so increases the number of votes needed for a majority.
Archivist has negative utility for house when recruited.
Heir has negative utility for house if lynched.
Charle can help house by asking probing questions, by pointing out things he sees but house has missed.

[hjelp]

I criticized the post Devante made saying Bunnie was just fixated on him already. That is why I paraphrased to "full of shit."

It's abundantly clear that LC is applying an entirely different level of scrutiny to my posts than he did to Dev's. I deliver the patron on a silver platter the minute you ask for help and it's a 4D chess scum play? Of course it wasn't.

Loose misses the host saying 8 votes in play, misses me saying wow 8 votes, explains how it's still 7 votes, and yet asks us to believe he has profound insight into scum schemes? With egg still on his face from the Charle 10 minute FP theory? I say try to get your head around the things written in black and white first.

We vote LC out today, or we gamble he's the one that used his kill (because he had to be so overt and obvious once I caught Dev) and try to find the accomplice before that person uses their kill.

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I will follow my flip and as I rely on annieh (not on Loose) -

...
annieh is House =>

If Zulu flips House or if Loose flips House => one of these 4 Hotbunnie, hjelp, Katykiss and Ragian flips Circle.
or
If Zulu and Loose both flips House => two of these 4 Hotbunnie, hjelp, Katykiss and Ragian flip Circle.
...

I agree to Lynch Loose - My posts regarding Loose and Loose postings, all concluded =>I think Loose is Circle- and if to look for another to Lynch then I suggest Zulu (the flip case). Though Zulu hasn't posted much so the arguments will be the flip and the absence of posting and the posts have mostly been quotes. If one of them flips House then we now that - one of these 4 Hotbunnie, hjelp, Katykiss and Ragian flips Circle. I can narrow it down to - one of these 3 Hotbunnie, Katykiss and Ragian flips Circle.

[Loose Canon]

I criticized the post Devante made saying Bunnie was just fixated on him already. That is why I paraphrased to "full of shit."

It's abundantly clear that LC is applying an entirely different level of scrutiny to my posts than he did to Dev's. I deliver the patron on a silver platter the minute you ask for help and it's a 4D chess scum play? Of course it wasn't.

Loose misses the host saying 8 votes in play, misses me saying wow 8 votes, explains how it's still 7 votes, and yet asks us to believe he has profound insight into scum schemes? With egg still on his face from the Charle 10 minute FP theory? I say try to get your head around the things written in black and white first.

We vote LC out today, or we gamble he's the one that used his kill (because he had to be so overt and obvious once I caught Dev) and try to find the accomplice before that person uses their kill.

Tl;dr: Loose's goose is cooked, Charle can probably vote, please discuss relative merits of having lc voted out next vs accomplice hunting.

You are pushing a town defeat strategy and you know it

You put the what dev said and included bunny in it in quotation marks. That isnt paraphrasing.

I couldnt scrutinise dev because he was lynched before i could get started. I could and did scrutinize you because you went in bold LYNCH NOW to zulu.
Part of the case on Bunny is that she joined in on the imnediacy right after you made your circle slip.

I think there was a circle question to sonic asking for clarification on winning if mislynch. Sonic chose (corfectly as mod) to make the same danger of mislynch warning to all in this forum. Thats partly why i think circle had had the brainwave of going circle on circle.

What are you talking about using a kill.
I cant see anything that indicates secretary or recruit have a single kill. You are dumbing yourself down.

Yes i got it wrong on charle. Charle should have seen he was heir and claimed. You got on the vote too.

Theres no relative merits about it annie. Its me or you.
1 or 2 of Me You Hjelp Rag Bunny are circle. Get it wrong on me or you and house loses.
And what do you think i am trying to do by trying to bring zulu and katy into things - its most likely bunny but following that katy following that zulu following that either rag or hjelp as the recruit. Thats accomplice hunting whilst going for the immediate circle right now.
No nicey nicey relative merits - you are circle!

But my mvp nomination for you still stands

Fpd hjelp he's going to come diwn on your side - mvp proven, circle wib

[Loose Canon]

What is your claim hjelp?

[Loose Canon]

Hjelp you are right it is me or annie - but what was your dealt card?

[Loose Canon]

Yes I did say why not hjelp.

As if there is even agreement that hjelp would have been a better call. I maintain it is better to investigate someone who is difficult to read. That the minor heat on Devante would mean me having to weigh in today. That it is good and fine to rely on instincts of other players who seem house in the absence of my own strong hunches.

Meanwhile, Devante, "Bunny is full of shit and so is Annie."

Hjelp - that "Bunny... Annie" is not paraphrasing - it is a circle slip of putting together a circle chat and thinking the circle chat is what Dev said

[hjelp]

What is your claim hjelp?

I think I have posted it earlier. The last time was

hmm, my quotes are strange --
my lines are

- @ Loose

- You see, Charle's claim mentioned house - "applicant" - which I also am - a House applicant. House applicant wasn't mentioned anywhere before Charle posted it => 100% House. And you still don't know it. So what about your claim Usher -

- Then SoN!c posted -

- What I read into this - you can have beent pointed to be the secretary and "your dealt card is dead" and use you dead card as claim.

[Loose Canon]

I am travelling for a tournament right now and should be back home late tomorrow or Sunday. I don't really have the time before heading out to the bush but I'll make sure I can look all this over and address Annieh's bullshit nonsense before I head out to hunting camp Sunday night

Prior to this devante/bunny action when bunny had said she was suspicious of dev, devs response called bunny cute little bunny.
Annie is being given presumed innocence credit for a circleslip on a dev/annie/ano circlechat concocted clever fun play.
Ignore this and lose.

[Loose Canon]

Hjelp if you are a house applicant, you must have been given a power that distinguishes you from vanilla.

What was it? - house is heading to a loss - i claimed my distinguishing d2 as usher.

[Loose Canon]

The reason im aaking is if you claim some sort of doctor, why wasnt an unrecruited archivist killed instead of homer?
Doctor came as a surprise to me from the homer reveal.
I see a dev/annie/bunny circle link most clearly/likely

[hjelp]

Hjelp if you are a house applicant, you must have been given a power that distinguishes you from vanilla.

What was it? - house is heading to a loss - i claimed my distinguishing d2 as usher.

I can only vote in the evenings - that's all. I have no powers beyond the vote.

What I wonder is why you are so eager about finding powers?

[hjelp]

I see you posted when I wrote this - hmm, you're looking for the Doctor? Only a Circle is interested in to finding out who the Doctor is - House has not interest in to reveal a Doctor power as I see it. I think you just cemented that you are a Circle. - By that - I will skip the second Zulu option. If we are aligned I will vote on Loose.

[HottBunnie]

Im unsure but it seems Sonic is noting that Loose is a cooked goose and not on the menu ie hes not circle even though he is clearly acting like circle based on his wild accusations which to anyone who is trying to put it together could only come to the conclusion that he is trying to cover his trail or goose 🪿 like tail and attack the only people we know by the course of the game to be house.
I accused Devante of being scum like right of the bat based in his rhetoric and actions the vote had no support so when house wanted to try with another person i voted with house. And then when my suspicions were confirmed and there were no other valid suspicions available I put forth that Devante is guilty we voted he was not only circle but the only circle who can recruit. There is no circumstance where a circle would vote out the Patron if there are three circle members.

Annie claims archivists; questions the only other viable suspect after charle turns house and finds Dev is circle. We vote for Dev and he is circle and the Patron and someone from circle even voted against him to hide himself and since Sonic is seemingly suggesting Loose is off his rocker but actually still house then two circle members voted for Dev.

I think Loose looks guilty too but if Sonic is saying he is not really circle or if we knew Loose was circle our best course of action right now would be to determine who the circle member or members are that voted for Dev.

Also Loose Im sorry to say this directly but you are posting a bit too much and need to give others a chance to respond more often please. I really like what you are saying but I want to see what everyone has to say too.