Nixon surely ranks as the worst, doesn't he?epic0002 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:46 am We have been blessed! We are being led by the best president in WORLD HISTORY….AND that is right after we lived through the WORST president in HISTORY! crazy!
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Nixon surely ranks as the worst, doesn't he?epic0002 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:46 am We have been blessed! We are being led by the best president in WORLD HISTORY….AND that is right after we lived through the WORST president in HISTORY! crazy!
Idk, Biden had to have the Easter bunny pull him off from sniffing children…
The difference is that Nixon knew what he was doing. Biden rarely knew who he was.epic0002 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:57 amIdk, Biden had to have the Easter bunny pull him off from sniffing children…
Just look at his accomplishments!epic0002 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:46 am We have been blessed! We are being led by the best president in WORLD HISTORY….AND that is right after we lived through the WORST president in HISTORY! crazy!
WILLIAMS5232 wrote: as far as dukasaur goes, i had no idea you were so goofy. i mean, you hate your parents so much you'd wish they'd been shot? just move out bro.
First of all, I have said previously, anyone can cherry-pick economic numbers to TRY to prove their guys is better than the "other" guy. Mookie does that again. He uses hyperbole and obfuscation; he tries to mislead the weak-minded.mookiemcgee wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 3:00 pmJust look at his accomplishments!epic0002 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:46 am We have been blessed! We are being led by the best president in WORLD HISTORY….AND that is right after we lived through the WORST president in HISTORY! crazy!
New never-ending war in middle east started.
The highest diesel prices in human history
The highest mortgage rates since 2004
3.5% inflation with 2% GDP growth
The lowest overall GDP growth of any president in 50 years his first term (1% - 2017-2021)
Rapidly declining job growth
The largest budgets and budget deficits of any president in history.
Truly the greatest ever
https://factually.co/fact-checks/econom ... ear-ff08c2Executive summary
Annual CPI inflation averaged roughly 4.9–5.0% across Joe Biden’s full four-year term (2021–2024), with a peak near 9.0–9.1% in mid‑2022; the early months of Donald Trump’s second term show inflation around 2.7–3.0% on common measures, with administration claims of a 2.5–2.7% average debated by independent outlets [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].
It is misleading to make Trump the ONLY Bad Guy here. Typical of Mookie, who suffers from TDS and cannot see anything BUT BAD news in regards to Trump. Is anyone surprised?Donald Trump:
During his presidency, Trump approved approximately $8.8 trillion in gross new borrowing, with a deficit reduction of about $443 billion.
The national debt increased by around $8.18 trillion during his term.
Joe Biden:
Biden has approved about $6.2 trillion in gross new borrowing and achieved a deficit reduction of approximately $1.9 trillion.
The national debt rose by about $8.4 trillion during his presidency.
Comparative Deficits:
A month-by-month comparison showed deficits for Biden from January to September 2024 at $1.064 trillion, while for Trump in the same months of 2025, it was $1.079 trillion.
Overall, both presidents contributed significantly to the national debt, but the context and economic conditions during their terms differ.
https://www.us-debt-clock.com/blog/trum ... comparisonLast Updated: February 2026
Few questions in fiscal politics generate more heat than this one: Who added more to the national debt — Trump or Biden? PublicFinance
The answer, like most things in economics, depends on how you measure it. Raw debt numbers, legislation signed, inherited conditions, economic crises, and bipartisan spending all complicate the picture. This analysis attempts a fair, data-driven comparison that accounts for context while holding each president accountable for the policies they championed.
Track the real-time debt total on our US Debt Clock, and explore the full history of debt by president.
Key Takeaways
Trump first term (2017-2021): Total debt increased by $7.80 trillion, from $19.95T to $27.75T
Biden (2021-2025): Total debt increased by $8.45 trillion, from $27.75T to $36.21T — the largest single term
Trump both terms (to date): About $10.9 trillion combined. His second term is incomplete, which is why we rank by term on the presidents page
COVID-19 was the dominant factor under Trump's first term: a large share of the $7.80 trillion increase came from pandemic response legislation
The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (2017) reduced revenues by ~$1.9 trillion over its first decade under Trump
Biden's signature legislation (IRA, IIJA, CHIPS) adds a combined ~$1.5 trillion over their respective scoring windows
Both presidents benefited from bipartisan spending bills that neither could have enacted alone
Structural deficits inherited from prior administrations account for significant portions of debt growth under both
The Raw Numbers: Debt Added by Each President

WILLIAMS5232 wrote: as far as dukasaur goes, i had no idea you were so goofy. i mean, you hate your parents so much you'd wish they'd been shot? just move out bro.
----------------I'm not sure the best is an AMERICAN.....But if you go that route ,as History goes......IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FDR...A CRIPPLE NO LESS...
Notice that Mookie did not address any of the stats that I previously posted. What does that say?mookiemcgee wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2026 10:29 pm JusplayswithAI spends alot of time attacking me, yet he didn't spend any time asking AI about Epic0002's claim that Trump is the best president in world history.
He seems to have a grade school crush on me. There are alot of lifelong republicans who choose to live in the closet, not really much of a surprise.

Zelenskyy….Apatheist wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:36 am It is concerning that out of nations of this many people, these are the best leaders we can find.
As Douglas Adams wrote: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job.
This applies to pretty much every president, prime minister, chancellor or other leader than comes to mind. Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the only one I can think of that's doing the best for his country rather than himself or his ideology.
If you don't think Zelenskyy is doing the best he can for his people, you have no clue how leaders should behave (which was already pretty evident).epic0002 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:28 amZelenskyy….Apatheist wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:36 am It is concerning that out of nations of this many people, these are the best leaders we can find.
As Douglas Adams wrote: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job.
This applies to pretty much every president, prime minister, chancellor or other leader than comes to mind. Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the only one I can think of that's doing the best for his country rather than himself or his ideology.![]()
You sir have won the troll of the week award!![]()
WILLIAMS5232 wrote: as far as dukasaur goes, i had no idea you were so goofy. i mean, you hate your parents so much you'd wish they'd been shot? just move out bro.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/pr ... ngNewsSerpPresident Donald Trump to attend Texas-Tennessee game on Saturday, reports say
Donald Trump will attend the first regular season meet up between No. 1 Texas and No. 14 Tennessee on Saturday, the White House told multiple news outlets Wednesday.
The game kicks off at 11 a.m. at Neyland Stadium in Knoxville as the marquee game following ESPN's "College Gameday." Both teams dubbed UT in their respective states are 3-0 this season, with Tennessee winning all of its games by at least 21 points and Texas pulling off an impressive 20-point comeback against Ohio State on Sept. 12.

-------------WRONG APATH....COMING FROM A COUNTRY YOURSELF...A MONARCH/SORTA DEMOCRACYApatheist wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:03 amIf you don't think Zelenskyy is doing the best he can for his people, you have no clue how leaders should behave (which was already pretty evident).epic0002 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:28 amZelenskyy….Apatheist wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:36 am It is concerning that out of nations of this many people, these are the best leaders we can find.
As Douglas Adams wrote: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job.
This applies to pretty much every president, prime minister, chancellor or other leader than comes to mind. Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the only one I can think of that's doing the best for his country rather than himself or his ideology.![]()
You sir have won the troll of the week award!![]()
Apatheist wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:36 am If you don't think Zelenskyy is doing the best he can for his people, you have no clue how leaders should behave (which was already pretty evident).
-------------WRONG APATH....COMING FROM A COUNTRY YOURSELF...A MONARCH/SORTA DEMOCRACY![]()
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..........Zelenskyy is worse than Putin...Putin doesn't hide the fact he is a dictator...........Zelenskyy canceled Presidential Elections...Because of war.........I said Ike,JFK,LBJ,Nixon..all were elected during a war...FDR was elected during WW2.........
Ashley Webb for President!Apatheist wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:37 am I wonder what America would be like with a woman in charge.
Some of the greatest periods in English/British history had a woman at the helm - Elizabeth I, Margaret Thatcher, and in a different capacity Victoria and Elizabeth II.
Not all, of course - Queen Mary, Liz Truss, for very different reasons, didn't do so well.
What would the US be like? One imagines less aggressive internationally for starters. Are there any credible candidates?
BTW I know technically Kamala was de facto president when Biden was incapacitated, which was most of his final years, but I'm thinking about an actual proper elected woman president.
Lindsay Clancy for President!Apatheist wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:37 am I wonder what America would be like with a woman in charge.
Some of the greatest periods in English/British history had a woman at the helm - Elizabeth I, Margaret Thatcher, and in a different capacity Victoria and Elizabeth II.
Not all, of course - Queen Mary, Liz Truss, for very different reasons, didn't do so well.
What would the US be like? One imagines less aggressive internationally for starters. Are there any credible candidates?
BTW I know technically Kamala was de facto president when Biden was incapacitated, which was most of his final years, but I'm thinking about an actual proper elected woman president.