Possible exploitation: Holy wars tournament discussion.

[Elaterate]

We need challenges to keep the players we have engaged, not reward one player who decides to play 200-300 games.

You just started 600+ games that I'm pretty sure you have no intention on playing (you realistically only need to start 5-10 at a time to farm at a fast pace and highly unlikely you even have enough time to finish all of them), in order to win the Holy Wars. How is that not worse than someone winning a Challenge by actually playing games?

[epic0002]

We need challenges to keep the players we have engaged, not reward one player who decides to play 200-300 games.

You just started 600+ games that I'm pretty sure you have no intention on playing (you realistically only need to start 5-10 at a time to farm at a fast pace and highly unlikely you even have enough time to finish all of them), in order to win the Holy Wars. How is that not worse than someone winning a Challenge by actually playing games?

Sad part is it’s a site wide event the abuse affected. Even if a ban from events is warranted, it can’t be corrected. Such a shame.

[TeeGee]

We need challenges to keep the players we have engaged, not reward one player who decides to play 200-300 games.

You just started 600+ games that I'm pretty sure you have no intention on playing (you realistically only need to start 5-10 at a time to farm at a fast pace and highly unlikely you even have enough time to finish all of them), in order to win the Holy Wars. How is that not worse than someone winning a Challenge by actually playing games?

Sad part is it’s a site wide event the abuse affected. Even if a ban from events is warranted, it can’t be corrected. Such a shame.

It is currently under review by the site admins.
If a gross abuse of the game is found, then tokens will likely be removed.
It will come under:

Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits and colluding with other players in any way to manipulate the scoring system.

While we do sometimes leave loopholes especially in new events, if we find these loopholes are exploited then we will act.

[xroads]

So you have allowed these 2 players to exploit the the loopholes the entire event, but when I discover the loopholes, call them out and exploit them, then you react?

Give me a fucking break.

[xroads]

So mother fuckers,

I did the same thing these 2 did, but now I am the bad guy?

As long as I dont dead beat these games, how is it any different?

They have been exploiting the loophole for weeks, but I do it and all of the sudden site admins are reviewing it?

[Elaterate]

You didn't do the same thing. We PLAYED the games... you just SPAM started them. I spent a weeks PLAYING all of those games (probably 50+hrs) and so has epic. You spent a couple hours acquiring more tokens than the two of us had combined in our inventory.

[xroads]

How do you know I'm not gonna play the games?

I spent 100+ hours joining and playing the event tournaments.

So it's ok for you 2 to find a loophole, play a ton of bot games for tokens to win a major event.

But when someone else does, it's against the rules?

This is why CC is dying!

[Elaterate]

again, you're not doing the same thing. It took me over 2 weeks to COMPLETE 1034 of those scenario's, the event ends in 4 days and you started over 1100 of them... so yes, I think it's safe to say you HAD no intentions on completing all of them... especially since you hadn't even taken a turn in any of them until very recently....

2026-08-14 14:49:14 - Game has been initialized
2026-08-14 14:49:14 - DaBit has won 1 Holy Wars Conquestidon Token
2026-08-14 20:05:19 - xroads received 3 troops for 1 regions

not long after TeeGee posted?... coincidence?

[epic0002]

So you have allowed these 2 players to exploit the the loopholes the entire event, but when I discover the loopholes, call them out and exploit them, then you react?

Give me a fucking break.

I’ve played and finished all games according to their design. You just posted that you exploited them. At least there’s no question of your intentions now.

[epic0002]

You didn't do the same thing. We PLAYED the games... you just SPAM started them. I spent a weeks PLAYING all of those games (probably 50+hrs) and so has epic. You spent a couple hours acquiring more tokens than the two of us had combined in our inventory.

I wish it was only 50+ hours. If CC keeps track of play time, I don’t even want to know how much.

[Elaterate]

Put it this way... if I was doing what you just did, I would have over 30k of them "played"... instead I only have a little over 1k because I started 30-40 at a time, played them all to completion (having 5-6 windows up to play multiple games at once), THEN started more. Took a long break from playing them too cause 99% of them were played last month. (25th-4th, none played)

I honestly didn't think there was anything wrong with earning the tokens through PLAYING the Scenario because very early into the event I saw a Freemium near the top of the Scoreboard with way more tokens than I had so I looked at their history and they were just playing normal bot games. I tried that and wasn't receiving ANY tokens and the games were taking too long so I looked elsewhere.

I did "trial and error", epic played copycat but put in the work (more work actually), and you just spammed a bunch basically at the last minute cause you knew you would get a shit load of tokens just for starting the games.

Please keep this in mind.... if I wanted to exploit farming tokens, I would have 20-30k more than I do now (you just proved it only takes a couple hours to spam over 1k games).... you just found out about the Scenario and got what, 800+ tokens in just a couple hours? How many tokens would me or epic have if we "did the same thing"?

If you had the intentions to "do the same thing" wouldn't it make sense that you wouldn't be able to complete the same amount of games as either of us considering we started at the beginning of last month and there's less than 4 days left? You'd have to complete over 10/hr with no sleep to complete them all Or are you going with the story you thought we started all these games today too??

[Kingm]

In my opinion, if xroads actually plays all the games, then its "fine", because its like he says, then he only took what E and epic did to a crazy another level.
If a loophole like this should exist, hmm I guess thats another discussion, but it has been like this on tons of events lately, and I just say kudos to guys like E that actually do the grind.
BUT there maybe should be some multiplier (more tokens) awarded to those players who play scored games, and even more too those that wins tournies dedicated to the event,, but thats also a different discussion.

[Elaterate]

You didn't do the same thing. We PLAYED the games... you just SPAM started them. I spent a weeks PLAYING all of those games (probably 50+hrs) and so has epic. You spent a couple hours acquiring more tokens than the two of us had combined in our inventory.

I wish it was only 50+ hours. If CC keeps track of play time, I don’t even want to know how much.

I think I was low balling it a little too

[Elaterate]

In my opinion, if xroads actually plays all the games, then its "fine", because its like he says, then he only took what E and epic did to a crazy another level.
If a loophole like this should exist, hmm I guess thats another discussion, but it has been like this on tons of events lately, and I just say kudos to guys like E that actually do the grind.
BUT there maybe should be some multiplier (more tokens) awarded to those players who play scored games, and even more too those that wins tournies dedicated to the event,, but thats also a different discussion.

The only way anyone can "complete" that many games of that Scenario in that amount of time is to lose a bunch of them on purpose. I was playing them at a faster rate than epic was and I was only completing about 10/hr so like I said above... he would need to go the rest of the event playing them non stop with no sleep. Not going to happen!

If he can pull it off with even a 60% win rate (pretty sure I was in the high 70s) I will gift him 1 month premium. So far he's started turns in 6 of them & completed none

[epic0002]

In my opinion, if xroads actually plays all the games, then its "fine", because its like he says, then he only took what E and epic did to a crazy another level.
If a loophole like this should exist, hmm I guess thats another discussion, but it has been like this on tons of events lately, and I just say kudos to guys like E that actually do the grind.
BUT there maybe should be some multiplier (more tokens) awarded to those players who play scored games, and even more too those that wins tournies dedicated to the event,, but thats also a different discussion.

I would have been inclined to agree, but then xroads posted that he exploited it on purpose. We all had the chance to join any game or scenario. Some chose to stick to their one trick pony, some chose to quick Doddle it, some of us, like myself, chose to enter all the tourneys, quick games, long games, scenarios and actually play them. Is there anything unfair about playing any available game as it’s designed?no. Exploitation means doing it in an unfair manner. The worst part is, his confessed exploitation has impacted the entire site to what seems like from his post…to prove a point?…and failed at that also. This is xroads being xroads on every challenge and event but with more f bombs and mother f’ers from him… I guess at least he will win that challenge.

[TeeGee]

So you have allowed these 2 players to exploit the the loopholes the entire event, but when I discover the loopholes, call them out and exploit them, then you react?

Give me a fucking break.

Did I say that you are the only one being investigated?
All known loopholes and participants (winners at least) will be investigated before any prizes are awarded.

[xroads]

I exploited the loop hole to expose you two cheaters.

The holy wars wasnt set up to play bot games to win a token every 2-3 minutes.

I really dont care if I win, I dont expect to. The point is you guys found a back door loophole and cheated the system. Now your little panties are in a wad because I discovered it, exposed it, and stopping you from winning. Boo Hoo

[xroads]

Of course it doesnt help to get through a ton of games when the site lag is so bad this morning it's amost unplayable.

[epic0002]

I exploited the loop hole to expose you two cheaters.

The holy wars wasnt set up to play bot games to win a token every 2-3 minutes.

I really dont care if I win, I dont expect to. The point is you guys found a back door loophole and cheated the system. Now your little panties are in a wad because I discovered it, exposed it, and stopping you from winning. Boo Hoo

We get it! You don't have to keep stating in writing you exploited. We believe you.

If the event is about joining games, finishing games, spending the most hours playing , and WINNING games….I’m guilty of E)All of the above.

[epic0002]

Come on roads!..your running a 3% win rate and only played 3% of your games…times a ticking!

[epic0002]

Be careful, Don’t get investigated for throwing games along with your self-proclaimed exploitation.

[xroads]

How do you throw games vs a bot?

[Elaterate]

How do you throw games vs a bot?

1 win out of 42 games completed = you know how

[xroads]

How do you throw games vs a bot?

1 win out of 42 games completed = you know how

As you know, some of these scenario games you only get one turn, sometimes you dont even get a turn.

[Elaterate]

How do you throw games vs a bot?

1 win out of 42 games completed = you know how

As you know, some of these scenario games you only get one turn, sometimes you dont even get a turn.

And as you know, some of these scenario's are so easy to win you'd have to go out of your way to lose them. I just looked at my last 100 and I won 82 of them. That's why I gave you a super easy challenge of just winning 60%. I thought that would be all the proof I needed that you just made the games to screw us over but now I must thank you for openly admitting it

I wanted to stop after like 150-200 games but then I saw epic caught on to it & I saw it as a challenge to stay ahead of him. So the event created a little mini-war between us and you just came in at the last minute and pissed all over it and you're screwing over all the other players Devoted to our Gods too this is the only thing I'm upset about. You're screwing over 10 players, not just 2.

Do I think bot games of any kind should drop items for an event? No.

Since they do, did I exploit this to guarantee a victory or screw anyone over? No.

Out of the 1034 games of this Scenario I played for this event (there are some in my history from a long time ago), I've only played 34 of them this month and the last one was on the 6th... didn't play any from the 25th of last month till the 4th of this month too.... lot's of missed exploiting time there IMO.

I saw someone grinding more than me and kinda tipped my hat and said GG. You saw two players grinding and got upset and found a way to screw them over.

So again, you did not do the same thing as us. Sorry