Happy ORANGEMEN'S DAY 2026 A.D.!!!!!

[ConfederateSS]

----------------------Happy ORANGEMEN'S DAY 2026 A.D.
----------------------------------NO, Not Donald J. TRUMP...

--------------------------THE BATTLE of THE BOYNE....JULY 12th,1690 A.D.........In IRELAND......When The Protestants.....William of Orange.....Beat The Catholics of King James II.........It is The Protestants St.Patrick's Day...........Instead of Green, It's Orange........ ConfederateSS.out!)(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

Sorry to spoil this with facts...but James II was deposed in the "glorious revolution" of 1688, precisely because he was a Catholic, so he wasn't King when this happened, William of Orange was (jointly with his wife Mary until her death in 1694).
Some historians argue that it wasn't a glorious revolution, but a simple invasion - a foreign army landed and deposed the head of state, albeit at the invitation of seven peers. There were still many Catholics so it was far from universally welcomed. That would make it the last successful invasion of England.
Another reason to despise religion and the difference it causes.

[jimboston]

Confed, celebrating another genocide. Surprise! (NOT)

[jusplay4fun]

Confed, celebrating another genocide. Surprise! (NOT)

Genocide? NO.

Did this battle lead to more suppression of the Irish Catholics? Yes.

Genocide defined:

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:
"a campaign of genocide"

The Brits preferred to repress and subjugate the Irish Catholics and steal their food and their lands. The Irish survived, despite YEARS of repression. From what I read, this repression was equal to or even worse that repression of blacks post Civil War in the USA under Jim Crow laws in the South.

The Irish Potato Famine comes CLOSE to genocide, but rather than a deliberate policy of KILLING the Irish, to me (after study of this VERY SAD point of Irish History, including reading two books) this was neglect and disdain by the British rulers and nobles. The Irish were viewed as sub-human and their suffering was viewed as deserved. This people deserved to starve and their food was taken OUT of the COUNTRY? And the Queen only gave 5,000 pounds for relief. The Leader of the Turks was prepared to give MORE for aid, but was persuaded NOT to exceed that of Queen Victoria. The starving of the Ukrainians in the 1930s by the Soviets was WORSE, but this starvation was HORRIBLE and egregious. SHAME on the BRITS. My Irish grandmother referred to the Brits as those damned limies. Forunately for me, my paternal great-great grandfather survived the Famine, despite being born during the Great Famine in 1850 in Western Ireland. His son, born in the 1870's, emigrated to the USA.

The war in Ireland formally ended with the Treaty of Limerick in 1691. This allowed over 14,000 Irish soldiers under Patrick Sarsfield, to leave for France and allowed most Irish Catholic land owners to keep their land provided they swore allegiance to William of Orange. However, the Protestant dominated Irish Parliament rejected these terms, not ratifying the treaty until 1697—and then not in full—and imposed a tough Penal Code resented by Irish Catholics for many years.[53][54][55][56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Boyne

From AI:

The British Penal Code imposed severe restrictions on the Irish population, particularly targeting Catholics.

Overview of the Penal Laws

The Penal Laws were a series of statutes enacted primarily in the late 17th and early 18th centuries.
These laws aimed to suppress the rights of the Roman Catholic majority in Ireland and, to a lesser extent, Protestant dissenters

Key Restrictions

Land Ownership: Catholics were largely prohibited from owning land, which severely limited their economic opportunities

Education: The laws restricted access to education for Catholics, preventing them from becoming educated professionals

Religious Practices: Catholics faced restrictions on their religious practices, including the inability to hold public office or serve in the military

Trade and Commerce: Participation in trade and commerce was heavily regulated, further marginalizing the Catholic population economically

Impact on Society

The Penal Laws contributed to long-term social and economic disparities in Ireland, setting the stage for future conflicts and injustices, including during the Great Famine

They fostered resentment and resistance among the Irish population, leading to various uprisings and movements against British rule

and:

The Penal Laws, enacted in Ireland between the 17th and 18th centuries, were a series of harsh legislative measures designed to suppress the Catholic majority and consolidate Protestant dominance in political, economic, and social spheres. These laws, imposed by the British government, aimed to restrict Catholic land ownership, education, and religious practice, effectively marginalizing the majority population. By prohibiting Catholics from holding public office, owning firearms, or educating their children in Catholic schools, the Penal Laws deepened sectarian divisions and stifled Ireland’s cultural and economic development. They also forced many Catholics into poverty and dependency, while enriching the Protestant Ascendancy. The legacy of these laws persists in Ireland’s history, shaping its struggle for independence and the enduring tensions between its communities.

(...)
The laws also targeted Catholic religious practices, such as the ownership of religious artifacts and the observance of holy days. Catholics were forbidden from possessing items like chalices or crucifixes, which were essential for liturgical rituals. Even the celebration of key religious events, such as Christmas or Easter, was discouraged or outright banned. These restrictions were not merely symbolic; they were designed to erase Catholic identity and force assimilation into the Protestant Church of Ireland. The cumulative effect was a society where religious expression was not just discouraged but criminalized.

(...)
In conclusion, the Penal Laws’ religious oppression was a multifaceted assault on Catholic life in Ireland. By restricting worship, education, and religious practices, these laws sought to dismantle Catholic identity and enforce conformity. The legacy of this oppression persists in Ireland’s history, a stark reminder of how legal systems can be weaponized against religious minorities. Understanding these specifics offers insight into the resilience of the Catholic community and the enduring struggle for religious freedom.

https://lawshun.com/article/how-did-the ... ct-ireland

There is MORE at the website above, for those interested.

From AI:

The Irish Potato Famine, also known as the Great Famine, was a devastating period in Ireland's history from 1845 to 1852. It resulted in the death of approximately one million people and forced another million to emigrate, significantly altering the demographic landscape of Ireland.

Causes
The famine was primarily triggered by a potato blight caused by the pathogen Phytophthora infestans, which destroyed potato crops, a staple food for the Irish population. However, British governmental policies and economic factors exacerbated the crisis, leading to inadequate relief efforts

Impact
The famine had profound social and economic effects, including widespread starvation, disease, and a massive wave of emigration, particularly to the United States. The event also intensified anti-British sentiments and contributed to the long-term struggle for Irish independence

Legacy
The Great Famine left a lasting mark on Irish culture and identity, influencing literature, politics, and social structures. It is remembered as a tragic chapter that highlights the vulnerabilities of a population dependent on a single crop and the consequences of colonial policies

and

The worst year of the famine was 1847, which became known as "Black '47".[6][7] The population of Ireland on the eve of the famine was approximately 8.5 million; by 1901, it was 4.4 million.[8] During the Great Hunger, roughly one million people died and over one million more emigrated,[9] causing the country's population to fall by 20–25% between 1841 and 1871, with some towns' populations falling by as much as 67%.[10][11][12] Between 1845 and 1855, at least 2.1 million people left Ireland, one of the greatest exoduses from a single island in history.[13][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)

The Famine Memorial in Dublin Ireland is a collection of statues designed and crafted by Dublin sculptor Rowan Gillespie and presented to the city of Dublin in 1997.

The statues depict the starving Irish people walking towards ships to bring them overseas to escape the hunger and poverty of the Irish famine; the women, men, and children shown in the memorial as skeletal figures wearing nothing more than rags.

“Famine” (1997) was commissioned by Norma Smurfit and is a commemorative work dedicated to those Irish people forced to emigrate during the 19th-century Irish Famine.

https://www.irishcentral.com/travel/fam ... ial-dublin

I visited Ireland in 2025 and saw this haunting and sad memorial in Dublin. It still brings tears to my eyes NOW. I applaud the determination of my ancestors to survive, despite repression, starvation, denied economic opportunities, denied eduational opportunities, and religious persecution.


Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football Wallpapers

[jimboston]

TLDR

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

(Not sure if the Irish Famine would meet the dictionary definition of genocide, but it certainly surpasses the criteria many people that word for in today’s pop culture or rage-bait political posts.)

ConFed loves his genocides.

[jusplay4fun]

TLDR

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

(Not sure if the Irish Famine would meet the dictionary definition of genocide, but it certainly surpasses the criteria many people that word for in today’s pop culture or rage-bait political posts.)

ConFed loves his genocides.

Since some cannot bother to read anything longer than one paragraph:

NO, the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 did NOT lead directly or indirectly to the Irish Potato Famine beginning in 1850. The Famine was due to a potato disease:

Causes
The famine was primarily triggered by a potato blight caused by the pathogen Phytophthora infestans, which destroyed potato crops, a staple food for the Irish population. However, British governmental policies and economic factors exacerbated the crisis, leading to inadequate relief efforts

The impact was to DECIMATE the Irish population (or worse, since the population died by at least 12 % and a nearly equal number emigrated OUT of Ireland. That was worse than ONE battle. The negligence (and economic policies) of the Brits could be classified BY SOME as genocide. Anyway one dissects the events and aftermath of the Irish Potato Famine, it is a very sad chapter in the History of the Irish people and an egregious blemish on mankind. The Brits did NOT CARE at ALL about the Irish, and not much more about the Scots.

[Apatheist]

To be fair, we still don't We did some similarly horrible things in India and Africa.
Actually, "Brits" would include the Scots.
Al Murray did a series entitled "Why does everyone hate the English?" He spoke to comedians from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France and Germany. It's not an easy watch for an Englishman...apart from the Germany one of course, we were the good guys in that one.
One only has to look at Eurovision to see that the only country that doesn't actually hate us these days is Malta.
One has to point out how many countries around the world hate us in English though...

[jimboston]

TLDR

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

(Not sure if the Irish Famine would meet the dictionary definition of genocide, but it certainly surpasses the criteria many people that word for in today’s pop culture or rage-bait political posts.)

ConFed loves his genocides.

Since some cannot bother to read anything longer than one paragraph:

NO, the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 did NOT lead directly or indirectly to the Irish Potato Famine beginning in 1850. The Famine was due to a potato disease:

Causes
The famine was primarily triggered by a potato blight caused by the pathogen Phytophthora infestans, which destroyed potato crops, a staple food for the Irish population. However, British governmental policies and economic factors exacerbated the crisis, leading to inadequate relief efforts

The impact was to DECIMATE the Irish population (or worse, since the population died by at least 12 % and a nearly equal number emigrated OUT of Ireland. That was worse than ONE battle. The negligence (and economic policies) of the Brits could be classified BY SOME as genocide. Anyway one dissects the events and aftermath of the Irish Potato Famine, it is a very sad chapter in the History of the Irish people and an egregious blemish on mankind. The Brits did NOT CARE at ALL about the Irish, and not much more about the Scots.

The English did not “cause” the potato blight. They did however force the Irish to subsist on one type of potato (making the blight worse) and they also created policies that forced the Irish to ship the vast majority of their sheep (and meat) to England. Taking away from the Irish this valuable source of protein.

These policies were created and maintained by a British aristocracy that was Protestant and considered the Irish to be subhuman.

Once the blight was in full swing the Protestant British upperclass did nothing to help their supposed subjects.

Had the Catholics come out on top and been in charge of the Monarchy it’s quite possible the famine would have been avoided or at least i]the death toll would’ve been diminished.

Hence Genocide due the the Orangemen.

[jusplay4fun]

TLDR

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

(Not sure if the Irish Famine would meet the dictionary definition of genocide, but it certainly surpasses the criteria many people that word for in today’s pop culture or rage-bait political posts.)

ConFed loves his genocides.

Since some cannot bother to read anything longer than one paragraph:

NO, the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 did NOT lead directly or indirectly to the Irish Potato Famine beginning in 1850. The Famine was due to a potato disease:

Causes
The famine was primarily triggered by a potato blight caused by the pathogen Phytophthora infestans, which destroyed potato crops, a staple food for the Irish population. However, British governmental policies and economic factors exacerbated the crisis, leading to inadequate relief efforts

The impact was to DECIMATE the Irish population (or worse, since the population died by at least 12 % and a nearly equal number emigrated OUT of Ireland. That was worse than ONE battle. The negligence (and economic policies) of the Brits could be classified BY SOME as genocide. Anyway one dissects the events and aftermath of the Irish Potato Famine, it is a very sad chapter in the History of the Irish people and an egregious blemish on mankind. The Brits did NOT CARE at ALL about the Irish, and not much more about the Scots.

The English did not “cause” the potato blight. They did however force the Irish to subsist on one type of potato (making the blight worse) and they also created policies that forced the Irish to ship the vast majority of their sheep (and meat) to England. Taking away from the Irish this valuable source of protein.

These policies were created and maintained by a British aristocracy that was Protestant and considered the Irish to be subhuman.

Once the blight was in full swing the Protestant British upperclass did nothing to help their supposed subjects.

Had the Catholics come out on top and been in charge of the Monarchy it’s quite possible the famine would have been avoided or at least i]the death toll would’ve been diminished.

Hence Genocide due the the Orangemen.

some truth, but almost to a level of ConfedSs "conspiracy".....LoL, on a sad and poignant chapter in History.

If the Irish won the Battle of the Boyne, the Irish would not have been as repressed, and may have had more that one food option and more economic opportunities. I think one reason my great-great-grandfather survived that Famine is that his family (was likely) lived near the sea and could add fish and sea food to their diet; thus they survived the worst of the Famine. (He was born in 1850, during the Famine.)


Here is AI Summary:

The Irish primarily relied on a few potato varieties, notably the Lumper, which contributed to the Irish Potato Famine.

Limited Diversity
The Irish potato crop had very little genetic diversity, making it highly susceptible to diseases.
The Lumper potato was the most widely cultivated variety before the famine, and its vulnerability to late blight (caused by the water mold Phytophthora infestans) led to catastrophic crop failures from 1846 to 1849

Consequences of Reliance
Approximately one-third of the Irish population depended almost exclusively on potatoes for sustenance, particularly in regions like Munster and Connaught

The lack of alternative food sources exacerbated the famine when the potato crop failed

Conclusion
While there were other varieties, the overwhelming reliance on the Lumper and similar types, combined with their lack of resistance to disease, played a critical role in the famine's severity.

more to read, if you want:
https://www.britannica.com/story/the-mo ... ed-ireland

ralf had lots of genocides in his posts, too, but he ain't here no moe'

[jimboston]

some truth, but almost to a level of ConfedSs "conspiracy".....LoL, on a sad and poignant chapter in History.

You’re missing the POINT.

It’s NOT really about whether or not the British were entirely “responsible” for the death of one million Irish.
It’s NOT really about whether the history during the time of William of Orange led directly to this… or whether the Battle of the Boyne led directly to this… or perhaps a few hundred other historical actions could have changed the situation and prevented this.

The POINT is just to point how our local racist loves to post “Historical” stories… and how these stories he likes to tell often have deeper and more nuanced points that he loves to completely ignore because he’s a fucking’ nutjob. In this post he’s somehow decided to glorify the position of “The Orangemen” and he completely ignores the fact that there’s an entire group that look at “The Orangemen” as a movement completely biased against Irish Catholics. Their view is just as valid as any view that glorifies “The Orangemen”.

[jusplay4fun]

some truth, but almost to a level of ConfedSs "conspiracy".....LoL, on a sad and poignant chapter in History.

You’re missing the POINT.

It’s NOT really about whether or not the British were entirely “responsible” for the death of one million Irish.
It’s NOT really about whether the history during the time of William of Orange led directly to this… or whether the Battle of the Boyne led directly to this… or perhaps a few hundred other historical actions could have changed the situation and prevented this.

The POINT is just to point how our local racist loves to post “Historical” stories… and how these stories he likes to tell often have deeper and more nuanced points that he loves to completely ignore because he’s a fucking’ nutjob. In this post he’s somehow decided to glorify the position of “The Orangemen” and he completely ignores the fact that there’s an entire group that look at “The Orangemen” as a movement completely biased against Irish Catholics. Their view is just as valid as any view that glorifies “The Orangemen”.

Then make your point more clear, JimBoston, and do not interject false statements while trying to make your point. NOW your main point is clear.

Your initial statement about genocide was wrong, as I previously pointed out, and that you admit:

by jusplay4fun » Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:06 am

jimboston wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 10:24 am
Confed, celebrating another genocide. Surprise! (NOT)
Genocide? NO.

by jimboston » Tue Jul 14, 2026 12:31 pm

TLDR

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

(Not sure if the Irish Famine would meet the dictionary definition of genocide, but it certainly surpasses the criteria many people that word for in today’s pop culture or rage-bait political posts.)

ConFed loves his genocides.

Let me repeat THIS KEY POINT here:
You, JimBoston, also want to oversimplify History, by declaring the Battle of the Boyne led to the Irish Potato Famine. You do what you accuse ConfedSS of doing: weave a somewhat false version of History, partly by oversimplification.

I am not sure that by "our local racist" that you mean ConfedSS; let's assume from here that that is what you mean.

I am not sure ConfedSS wants to glorify what happened; he merely points out that the Orangemen WON the Battle of the Boyne and that the Orangemen celebrate this victory, which I know they do.

I agree that ConfedSS loves to use a few facts to weave a story that is often INCORRECT or heavily biased; the facts do not always support his conclusion. I agree with that.

I agree with JimBoston that Irish Catholics do not like the Orangemen; no doubt. That is much of the reason for the "Troubles" of and in Northern Ireland. That situation is complex, but is essentially Catholics living in Northern Ireland reacting to the repression and oppression due to the Orangemen, which I define (broadly) as Protestants who politically run the Government of Northern Island. The presence of British troops merely reinforced the distrust of Irish Catholics against the London Government.

from AI:

The Orangemen of Ireland are members of the Orange Order, a Protestant fraternal organization. Founded in 1690, the Orange Order commemorates the Battle of the Boyne, where Protestant King William of Orange defeated Catholic King James II. The organization is primarily associated with Ulster Protestants and promotes loyalty to the British Crown while defending Protestant identity in Ireland.

And the British Government set up the conflict by moving Protestants into Northern Ireland:

from AI:

Yes, the British government facilitated the relocation of Protestant Scots to Northern Ireland. This was part of a broader colonization effort known as the Plantation of Ulster, which occurred primarily between 1605 and 1697. The initiative aimed to settle Protestant settlers from England and Scotland in the northern province of Ireland, particularly in areas like Antrim and Down, by confiscating lands from native Irish landowners.

This program was officially sponsored by the Crown under King James VI & I, aiming to establish a Protestant majority in the region

and more here:
https://www.theirishstory.com/2024/06/0 ... -overview/

again, from AI:

Approximately 470,000 settlers moved to Ireland during the plantation system. This includes about 370,000 English settlers and 100,000 Scots who migrated between 1580 and 1640.

The plantations were part of a broader strategy to establish English control over Irish territories, often following conflicts and rebellions by the Irish population.

You, JimBoston, also want to oversimplify History, by declaring the Battle of the Boyne led to the Irish Potato Famine. You do what you accuse ConfedSS of doing: weave a somewhat false version of History, partly by oversimplification.

You said:

by jimboston » Tue Jul 14, 2026 12:31 pm

It led to The Irish Famine, which was genocide.

Both parts of your statement directly above are mostly FALSE.

One COULD argue that the entire policy of the London Government toward Catholics of and in Ireland OVER CENTURIES has aspects of genocide, but the British did not attempt to directly KILL at least one million** of Irish Catholics. The Brits set up a situation where the Potato Famine did that for them, and then the British Government offered very limited assistance to help the STARVING Irish Catholic peasants. SHAME on the Brits, those "Damned Limies."

**I would argue that of the one million who emigrated, MANY of them ALSO DIED of starvation before they got to the destination.

[jimboston]

GOD you’re an idiot.

I’m reminded quite quickly why I stopped coming in here.

No wonder almost everyone fun has vanished.

[Apatheist]

If you're just going to insult people - please stop coming in here again.

[DirtyDishSoap]

GOD you’re an idiot.

I’m reminded quite quickly why I stopped coming in here.

No wonder almost everyone fun has vanished.

Yeah... sorry bud.

[jimboston]

If you're just going to insult people - please stop coming in here again.

I’ll be leaving shortly I’m sure…. if I’m not banned first.

[Pack Rat]

I'm sure ConfederateSS is laughing his @ss off at the above posters for attacking him, but watching these guys barking at each other! LMAO!

Thank ConfederateSS for creating chaos among those who don't like your original style of posting and keeping this forum alive!

[jimboston]

I'm sure ConfederateSS is laughing his @ss off at the above posters for attacking him, but watching these guys barking at each other! LMAO!

Thank ConfederateSS for creating chaos among those who don't like your original style of posting and keeping this forum alive!

If my presence annoys you this much I might just stick around.

[Apatheist]

I'm sure ConfederateSS is laughing his @ss off at the above posters for attacking him, but watching these guys barking at each other! LMAO!

Thank ConfederateSS for creating chaos among those who don't like your original style of posting and keeping this forum alive!

No-one's barking...except possibly you and Confed, in one sense

[Pack Rat]

Look at all the posters posting! Activity is on the rise now!

Thanks to ConfederateSS!

All you other clowns just can't help showing your contempt and whining, lol.

[Apatheist]

Look at all the posters posting! Activity is on the rise now!

Thanks to ConfederateSS!

All you other clowns just can't help showing your contempt and whining, lol.

By saying "other clowns", who else are you saying a clown, you or Confed?

[Dukasaur]

You say contempt, I say potato.