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Bernie Sanders wrote:The VA is a wonderful SOCIALIST program for our veterans.
And the VA sucks. Period. End of story. The VA health care system makes Medicare look good. I have a federal VA facility a good distance where I live and it leaves a lot to be desired. (I have a state run (NY) Veterans facility closer to where i live and I can't stop singing its praises. My father lived the last of his days there at the special Altimeter / Dementia wing, a special facility dedicated to male veterans with a staff trained to handle the special problems of people who have lost their ability to remember things.) Every good program for Veterans is not run by the Federal government. Period. End of Story.

And it's a pity because care for our Veterans is one of the things that formed a cornerstone of our Federal Government. Washington left his position of retirement as Commander in Chief partly because of the complaints from the Veterans about not getting their proper payments.
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Bernie Sanders wrote:The VA is a wonderful SOCIALIST program for our veterans.

Let's do the same for all working families. Medicare for all!
and once again another lame post by a lame brain snowflake,so i guess its ok to kill people if you think its great,eat a d*ck therse veterans have more pride and love our country then you ever will,so remember .You people have no idea what a veteran is i guess sad
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karel wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:The VA is a wonderful SOCIALIST program for our veterans.

Let's do the same for all working families. Medicare for all!
and once again another lame post by a lame brain snowflake,so i guess its ok to kill people if you think its great,eat a d*ck therse veterans have more pride and love our country then you ever will,so remember .You people have no idea what a veteran is i guess sad
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tzor wrote:
Woodruff wrote:1. The Freedom Caucus certainly isn't a bunch of RINOs. Where do you get this idea?
McConnell campaigned on repealing Obamacare "root and branch." It's not the Freedom Caucus who is preventing him from making that pledge
In fact, it was exactly the Freedom Caucus who prevented the first iteration of Republicare from happening. Were you seriously not paying any
attention at all?
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Woodruff wrote:Why are you so dishonest?
So "fake news." I complement the Democrats and you want to take umbrage with it.
You are a disgusting, dishonest, partisan shill. You actually are starting to make Phatscotty look sane. I pity you.
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tzor wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:The VA is a wonderful SOCIALIST program for our veterans.
And the VA sucks. Period. End of story.
That's really NOT the end of the story, no. The VA absolutely sucks in some places, and yet provides absolutely outstanding
care in others. It's a real mish-mash of inconsistency in that regard (I'm not a fan of the VA in general, don't misunderstand).

That being said, the military's socialized healthcare plan actually IS outstanding. As is the retiree-based TriCare insurance,
for what that's worth.
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Not going to argue the case against Tricare, I think it's amazing as well when I had it (and I regret not keeping it).

I couldn't care how phenomenal the VA system is in some areas. I've received nothing but praises for the VA near where I live. I, however, refuse to go simply due to the inane wait times everyone is subjected to. Until Trump actually addressed the issue earlier, we couldn't just pick who we wanted to see us. For all my visits, it's always some random quack that has no idea who I am or what my problems are.
It was a long overdue change needed.
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Why can't vets just take out health insurance like everyone else?
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Woodruff wrote:In fact, it was exactly the Freedom Caucus who prevented the first iteration of Republicare from happening.
The first iteration as it were was created by the Establishment RINOS who thought Clinton was going to win and just wanted to add more benefits to the insurance industry because Obamacare's first fatality was the private insurance industries under the road to single payer.

But wait, numbers are funny, because the so called "first iteration" wasn't actually the first. Before that (do we call it the zeroth) was the repeal bill passed by the House and Senate under Obama and subsequently vetoed. Passing that same legislation again was blocked by the Establishment leadership.

You see, I have been paying attention. You just want to filter facts that won't fit the MSM narrative.

Final question. Who is getting more of their agenda done, Schumer or McConnell?
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tzor wrote:You see, I have been paying attention. You just want to filter facts that won't fit the MSM narrative.
Is cognitive dissonance a requirement to be a part of the Republican Party these days?

Because truthfully, that's all you've got going for you at the moment.
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Woodruff wrote:
tzor wrote:You see, I have been paying attention. You just want to filter facts that won't fit the MSM narrative.
Is cognitive dissonance a requirement to be a part of the Republican Party these days?

Because truthfully, that's all you've got going for you at the moment.
Actually it is. Where have you been the last 18 months?
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Woodruff wrote:Is cognitive dissonance a requirement to be a part of the Republican Party these days?
Are ad hominem attacks the only argument you are capable of?
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Is cognitive dissonance a requirement to be a part of the Republican Party these days?

Because truthfully, that's all you've got going for you at the moment.
That was...petty...not expected from you Woody. Perhaps you'd prefer a good old fashioned Monarchy? Dictatorship? Feudal system? Then you could focus on surviving....not being a jackwagon :lol:
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KoolBak wrote:Perhaps you'd prefer a good old fashioned Monarchy? Dictatorship? Feudal system?
I suspect he is a Statist Utopist, seeking total authority in the modern philosopher king, in other words, a bureaucracy. Philip Dru, Administrator.
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tzor wrote:
Woodruff wrote:Is cognitive dissonance a requirement to be a part of the Republican Party these days?
Are ad hominem attacks the only argument you are capable of?
Frankly, they're the only thing you deserve. I'm not sure why you bother posting here - you must have some sort of a weird fetish for making yourself look ignorant.
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personalty the dems have more hate then the kkk,at least the kkk respects personal property and does not burn down buildings and incite hate and riots.
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karel wrote:personalty the dems have more hate then the kkk,at least the kkk respects personal property and does not burn down buildings and incite hate and riots.
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yep thats what all you socialist liberals say,cuz we dont entice violence,i cant help it you all take right after the clan,after all the dems started the clan,so there is a true fact for you
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karel wrote:personalty the dems have more hate then the kkk,at least the kkk respects personal property and does not burn down buildings and incite hate and riots.
They don't incite hate? Say again?
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Woodruff wrote:Frankly, they're the only thing you deserve. I'm not sure why you bother posting here - you must have some sort of a weird fetish for making yourself look ignorant.
Considering that your icon is that of an emotionless Vulcan, I find your arguments most illogical and fascinating. That's generally the reason why I post here.

The common standard of the civilized world would insist that it is wrong to have a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent. Doing so is perhaps one of my few faults.
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karel wrote:personalty the dems have more hate then the kkk
You realize that the KKK started out as the militant arm of the Democratic Party. Now it's the Anti-Fa movement but the hatred is still there.The psychological projection is enormous.
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Yesterday's Dixiecrats became today's Southern Republicans, once the Northern Democrats became the heroes of civil rights.

What you say, them Yankees forcing us to give them Negroes the vote, share drinking fountains, bathrooms and bus seats with us civilized gentlemen and ladies???? How dare they!

You poor saps actually think today's Republicans are actually rooted from the party of Lincoln, when actually you are rooted from The Confederate States of America.

Come sing along my fellow Republicans.....I wish I was in the land of cotton.....
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Bernie Sanders wrote:Yesterday's Dixiecrats became today's Southern Republicans, once the Northern Democrats became the heroes of civil rights.
That's the fancy trick of the Devil, (who is really in charge of the Democratic Party).

So what a Dixiecrat and why should I give a you know what?

Dixiecrats were generally opposed to Truman who integrated the armed services. Having him as a presidential nominee really pissed off people like James Strom Thurmond. Annoyed with the party he did switch sides in 1964 to Republican. Then follows a series of interesting politics known as the 60's.
Thurmond appointed Thomas Moss, an African American, to his Senate staff in 1971. It has been described as the first such appointment by a member of the South Carolinian congressional delegation (it was incorrectly reported by many sources as the first senatorial appointment of an African American, but Mississippi Senator Pat Harrison had hired clerk-librarian Jesse Nichols in 1937). In 1983, he supported legislation to make the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. a federal holiday.
It would be improper to look at one of the members of a movement, shifting from party to party looking for the best offer (he really did benefit under Richard Nixon) and suggest that the people in general gravitated to the party.

Here is an article in the Atlantic about this shift.
With that done, white southerners just took their conservative views on taxes and national security into the Republican Party where such views belonged. Racism is a key part of the story, but it plays a much bigger role in explaining why Adlai Stevenson and John Kennedy won South Carolina than in explaining why Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush won there.
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karel wrote:personalty the dems have more hate then the kkk
You realize that the KKK started out as the militant arm of the Democratic Party. Now it's the Anti-Fa movement but the hatred is still there.The psychological projection is enormous.
fduh yea,but they dont go burning chit down like blm does and the rest of these hate groups that obama supported,kkk is not like it was in the 60;s
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karel wrote:kkk is not like it was in the 60;s
I don't think they even hate Catholics anymore.
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tzor wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:28 pm
The only "victory" I want is a convention of states, term limits on congressmen, and either turn limits on senators of the flat out repeal of the 17th amendment. I wouldn't trust a Washington Republican as far as I could throw him (and trust me, I'm not the athletic type; probably get a hernia getting them off the ground).
I miss this guy's posts, they were always thoughtful and intelligent.

Listening to Thom Tillis comments kinda made me think about how it's always the politicians that are leaving office that have the freedom to say things that would actually get enthusiastic about voting for them. Term limits, or maybe even the repeal of the 17th might just be what this country needs right now.
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