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Extreme Ways wrote:kongming3 wrote:I'm also in favour of a mass claim. Regarding what Charle said before his death(?), I don't think there's any particular reason to believe anything he said. That said, fusi as a dead townsfolk did in fact confirm he had meant to target ragian. That means we can confirm there had to be a scum deflector protecting ragian, so I think he's guaranteed scum. I was honestly a bit frustrated that nobody was pointing that out and seemingly forgetting, so I'm glad I can do so now.
@EW, would it be correct to say that you no longer have any masonic weapons? You're guaranteed town to me barring the likely conversions in play, but if you have a way to confirm you haven't been converted that'd be helpful. In the same line of thought, Pixar is the only true true townsfolk I have absolute trust in.
It might be that I haven't fully caught up, but I haven't seen anything that confirms dev as town if he didn't become a mason last night. He was a known town figure earlier in the game so he's a potential conversion target, but if were able to rule out conversions then he should still be town. Loose is also a known townsfolk as of yesterday, so he's also in the same bracket of likely townsfolk but also because of that an attractive conversion target. For me it goes Pixar-->EW (because he could only have been converted last night)-->Loose (because he could only have been converted last night)--> Dev (because he's been a confirmed townie and conversion candidate for the longest and hasn't been killed off at night).
I know I'm town, and I suspect there's likely a conversion lurking amongst those 4, but ideally the weapons can be used to work through that. I'm also concerned about the force ghost and the shenanigans with if charle is really dead, but I'm not sure what we can do about that for now. With all that said, I think ragian is guaranteed scum and vot scum just by the numbers and lack of helpful input for town (I recognize "I" also haven't provided a ton of information for town, but that's a product of the lack of interest of my predecessors in trying to engage with this mess rather than anything else.)
Vote ragian as the obvious and safest choice. We very much need to not have a mislynch here, so it makes the most sense to me. That said, if pixar specifically has a rationale for choosing someone else I would hear him out.
You will see me use the axe after lynch. But by virtue of being in mason chat, Pix can confirm. We can apparently also swap weapons, I forgot.
Regarding the bolded, I pointed it out yesterday but it's not guaranteed that Rag is scum, just that scum targeted him. I'm working off of the assumption that there are 3 or 4 alive townies atm. It's about finding the missing one. I'm thus not too concerned about most lynches.
Usually I mind people opening up the PoE (process of eliminations) players, but I feel like your train of thought is very rational. I am towning Dev due to his reaction on me saying he was a mason now. It seemed genuine, and scum knows it's never a backup mason. Tbh I think Dev is also a backup mason, but I haven't died yet. It makes a lot of sense in the whole 2-2-2-2-2-2 stuff.
One thing that does bother me is that you are in favour of a massclaim but do not seem to make a movement towards claiming yourself or breadcrumbing something about your own role.
SoN!c wrote:Extreme Ways wrote:Option F is Vot dies and day goes on
A mod kill (on almost anybody) would also kill the delicate tightrope walking balance here and would de facto kill the game aswell.. that is not an option in this game.
Ragian wrote:How's that different from a lynch?
Devante wrote:Not sure revealing that was great unless we can get him in for a vote. If Iām reading that right Vot was the fourth you were looking for EW meaning the rest are scum. That right EW and Pix? We just have to figure out which one might likely be Striga between them
jfm10 wrote:Ewebasher wrote:Later that night ONE shot from the double-barreled shotgun - followed by a UNHOLY CRY - was heared..
I died in 1603 and whomever was guarding the armory didn't sound very townish dying . It would appear there is an afterlife however as cl16 has started and it appears some kind of Razorvich creature has been down here for quite some time controlling a small section. I just needed some armor and this cool dice weapon . Goodluck town and hope you win .
P.S. @ EW .... C was the proper choice unless you were scum.
Extreme Ways wrote:I assume we are still in the night?
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