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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm

kongming3 wrote:With that in mind, I will share publicly that I received a note last night which I'm sharing on behalf of a trusted source - As of last night at least, both Extreme Ways and Strike Wolf are guaranteed to be town-aligned.

I can confirm that I am town aligned.

What does parrot mean @ Sonic?
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:01 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:
What does parrot mean @ Sonic?


3-Shot Parrot: You have a tame parrot that flies out at night, coming back with parts of conversations it overheard. As the town should be under night curfew these conversations must come from the evil that haunts it.


So its wolf radio in some sort..
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Extreme Ways on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:07 pm

SoN!c wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
What does parrot mean @ Sonic?


3-Shot Parrot: You have a tame parrot that flies out at night, coming back with parts of conversations it overheard. As the town should be under night curfew these conversations must come from the evil that haunts it.


So its wolf radio in some sort..

Not just wolf, also mason/templar :D

Eavesdropper but slightly different
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:09 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:
SoN!c wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
What does parrot mean @ Sonic?


3-Shot Parrot: You have a tame parrot that flies out at night, coming back with parts of conversations it overheard. As the town should be under night curfew these conversations must come from the evil that haunts it.


So its wolf radio in some sort..

Not just wolf, also mason/templar :D

Eavesdropper but slightly different


:D :D :D
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:23 pm

So many questions...

The unveiling is still confusing. Now there are 4 masons??
...and if there are 11 townies then is each scum faction only one player, at least at first, barring conversions.
Is this second faction more vampires, or werewolves, or something else?

The night is also confusing. Did both scum factions attack Traf, ...or was that second thing some kind of bodyguard?
If traf did get attacked twice, Why? That seems like more than a coincidence.
Btw, could a dead player come back as a vampire/striga? Can town prevent this?

And the striga has heat-sensing and shapeshiftng powers. Is that just flavour or does it correspond with actual PRs?
Same goes for the knocking, just flavour or is that something to do with actual play.

I'm guessing the silver vest is a PR that is now out of operation...

@kong: So about your trusted source. Is it Sonic, or at least mod-verified?

Also what is up with DDS? Is he in the game or not? Was that story of his real?
That's probably an inappropriate question, ...but appropriate players rarely make History!

and @EW, seriously, why do they call games without PRs, 'mountainous'? I did read online that it comes from the 'original' game...
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:26 pm

So if I understood Sonics post there's 9 town and 2 wolves and 2 vampires for scum. Do I got that right?

And the note thing, someone sent you a message Kong stating that EW and Strike are town masons. How does that work did someone else use their power or from your own PR you were able to tell?
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:29 pm

Votanic wrote:So many questions...

The unveiling is still confusing. Now there are 4 masons??
...and if there are 11 townies then is each scum faction only one player, at least at first, barring conversions.
Is this second faction more vampires, or werewolves, or something else?

The night is also confusing. Did both scum factions attack Traf, ...or was that second thing some kind of bodyguard?
If traf did get attacked twice, Why? That seems like more than a coincidence.
Btw, could a dead player come back as a vampire/striga? Can town prevent this?

And the striga has heat-sensing and shapeshiftng powers. Is that just flavour or does it correspond with actual PRs?
Same goes for the knocking, just flavour or is that something to do with actual play.

I'm guessing the silver vest is a PR that is now out of operation...

@kong: So about your trusted source. Is it Sonic, or at least mod-verified?

Also what is up with DDS? Is he in the game or not? Was that story of his real?
That's probably an inappropriate question, ...but appropriate players rarely make History!

and @EW, seriously, why do they call games without PRs, 'mountainous'? I did read online that it comes from the 'original' game...


:D :D :D :D sorry Vot. Too much to handle here

If you want Mod actions answering stuff: please rephrase one at a time while i get another bottle of good wine ( be right back )
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:34 pm

Devante wrote:So if I understood Sonics post there's 9 town and 2 wolves and 2 vampires for scum. Do I got that right?

And the note thing, someone sent you a message Kong stating that EW and Strike are town masons. How does that work did someone else use their power or from your own PR you were able to tell?



The mod has to say YES! YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ALRIGHT!!
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:35 pm

SoN!c wrote:
Votanic wrote:So many questions...

The unveiling is still confusing. Now there are 4 masons??
...and if there are 11 townies then is each scum faction only one player, at least at first, barring conversions.
Is this second faction more vampires, or werewolves, or something else?

The night is also confusing. Did both scum factions attack Traf, ...or was that second thing some kind of bodyguard?
If traf did get attacked twice, Why? That seems like more than a coincidence.
Btw, could a dead player come back as a vampire/striga? Can town prevent this?

And the striga has heat-sensing and shapeshiftng powers. Is that just flavour or does it correspond with actual PRs?
Same goes for the knocking, just flavour or is that something to do with actual play.

I'm guessing the silver vest is a PR that is now out of operation...

@kong: So about your trusted source. Is it Sonic, or at least mod-verified?

Also what is up with DDS? Is he in the game or not? Was that story of his real?
That's probably an inappropriate question, ...but appropriate players rarely make History!

and @EW, seriously, why do they call games without PRs, 'mountainous'? I did read online that it comes from the 'original' game...


:D :D :D :D sorry Vot. Too much to handle here

If you want Mod actions answering stuff: please rephrase one at a time while i get another bottle of good wine ( be right back )

Wow, I didn't know I was going to get any direct mod-response! ...though you have been more share-ish than most mods.
For now just answer what you are willing, ..but do have a couple more glasses of wine first. :D
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:43 pm

Im getting pretty boozed up here.. But since i cannot post stories anymore, the only thing i can do is answering questions??? If the mod is not asked to answer those i will just keep track of votes ! sheeeesh!! ;-)

Also i can't answer more. But also: i will always be able to answer whatever question thrown at me!


And all the reads from Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:55 pm onwards seem pretty cool!
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby kongming3 on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:48 pm

The information is indeed mod-verified, though no claim has been made about their roles @devante only that they are definitely not part of any scum faction or otherwise corrupted.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:52 pm

kongming3 wrote:The information is indeed mod-verified, though no claim has been made about their roles @devante only that they are definitely not part of any scum faction or otherwise corrupted.


This is true
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:01 pm

Btw, could a dead player come back as a vampire/striga? Can town prevent this = NO

And the striga has heat-sensing and shapeshiftng powers. Is that just flavour or does it correspond with actual PRs = FLAVOR
Same goes for the knocking, just flavour or is that something to do with actual play= ACTUAL PLAY

I'm guessing the silver vest is a PR that is now out of operation...NOT IF THAT DUDE IS A 2 SHOT BODYGUARD and he lost just one!!!!
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:23 pm

I'm guessing the silver vest is a PR that is now out of operation...NOT IF THAT DUDE IS A 2 SHOT BODYGUARD and he lost just one!!!!


Don't think it's beneficial advertising this to scum
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby strike wolf on Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:12 pm

So friendly note to mod: I know you are excited about hosting a game but in my opinion, you're sharing a bit too much information. Mafia is a mystery game at heart and we should be left to figure some things out for ourselves. Revealing too much can unfairly tip the balance towards town or scum depending on what is said.

As for the note, as far as I know, Kongs information is accurate. Him coming forward in this manner also favors Kong as town.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby SoN!c on Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:38 pm

strike wolf wrote:So friendly note to mod: I know you are excited about hosting a game but in my opinion, you're sharing a bit too much information. Mafia is a mystery game at heart and we should be left to figure some things out for ourselves. Revealing too much can unfairly tip the balance towards town or scum depending on what is said.

As for the note, as far as I know, Kongs information is accurate. Him coming forward in this manner also favors Kong as town.


2 scum factions (2x2), 3 conversions and "that other guy" is not so town friendly? I hope enough mystery is to be left over?

Especially with no more stories from now on and "mind fuckery" galore - where nothing seems to be what it seems
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby fusibaseball on Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:56 pm

kongming3 wrote:The information is indeed mod-verified, though no claim has been made about their roles @devante only that they are definitely not part of any scum faction or otherwise corrupted.


You just have to be careful with this as it's very possible at least one of their roles gets "misread" and results Town when they are not in fact Town-aligned. Especially in games like this where everyone gets multiple components to their role.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Votanic on Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:43 pm

SoN!c wrote:Especially with no more stories from now on and "mind fuckery" galore - where nothing seems to be what it seems[/color]

This likelihood is already self-evident.

Getting not just one, but two, town confirmations from one action (?) does sound too good to be true.
Three (!) if we go with strike's suggestion tha the bearer of such news (Kong) is also Town.

Still thinking about the striga's knocking.
Did anybody get doordashed last night? That is, in the pre-food delivery sense of the term.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Devante on Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:09 pm

Ya Vot that’s one thing I don’t get. Does that mean Traf heard a knock on the doo. Maybe not. Sonic said door knocking was part of gameplay so you need to let him in but he knocked one door then went some where else. Without knowledge of who he then attacked someone else and someone was killed. Although we don’t know whether wolf or vampire did the kill. I’m leaning wolf cause of knocking absence. So I think wolf killed Traf and vampire tried to kill mason bodyguard. That’s what it seems to me.


Skeptic on 3 individuals coming forward as town based on night action. If so just odd to paint targets for scum so easily. Maybe a misread for one but all 3 seems odd. Would be a hell of a mod setup. So maybe 2 are good, maybe all 3, but I can’t see more than 1 being misread and would potentially flow with story. Sonics an overthinker so not unusual to see this complicated setup but now that it’s just game and no more story then I wonder whether things are simpler then they seem. Hmmm


And straight up this May be a mistake but whoever attacked me last night come at me again bro. That’s right masons I am the driver slash mason bodyguard. Two shot as sonic explained already so my info is irrelevant now as I expect I’ll be a three night target. Side note though for scum, after my two shots are up I have a kamikaze power which agreed is a lot of extra flavor but like I said, come at me bro. Love to take one of you out ya filthy bag
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Ragian on Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:00 am

We shouldn't feed scum that info. Keep town favoured informati9n to yourselves. I understand that you could be fooling scum, but if they plan around you N2, we might lose more important townie roles.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:20 am

We don't know if Traf died because he didn't heed the last D1 advice to just gather in the church, he might have tried to use one of his actions perhaps thinking the worst that could have happened would have been scummification.

What we do have from D1 are;

Players posting about other players/themselves

Players posting about the game flavour

Each should I think be treated separately for the purposes of scum identification/tells.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby Charle on Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:48 am

My take of what happened last night is as follows:

First we are all in agreement we have the following setup:
2 x Vampires
2 x Wolves
9 x Town (Traf is dead, so 8 x Town left).

It seems that a Vampire killed Traf. Then another creature (Wolf) entered, had a fight with each other, Dev entered the room and the Wolf damaged Dev's protective Vest whereafter both creatures ran away.

Kong came up and said that Strike and EW are town, so Kong might be town aligned as well.

Just one question to both Dev and Kong, why on earth do both of you claim so early in the game? Scum will now know what both of your PR's are and that you have a protective vest Dev.

So if all the above is true, we have:

Confirmed Town:
1. Strike
2. EW
3. Kong
4. Dev

The Rest:
5. DDS
6. pmc
7. Vot
8. Loose
9. Fusi
10. Ragian
11. Pixar
12. Charle

If we lynch anybody from 5 to 12 above, we have a 50% chance to hit scum and after that the masons even have a better chance at night. This is if Kong and Dev were telling the truth though.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby *Pixar* on Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:03 am

Devante wrote:Ya Vot that’s one thing I don’t get. Does that mean Traf heard a knock on the doo. Maybe not. Sonic said door knocking was part of gameplay so you need to let him in but he knocked one door then went some where else. Without knowledge of who he then attacked someone else and someone was killed. Although we don’t know whether wolf or vampire did the kill. I’m leaning wolf cause of knocking absence. So I think wolf killed Traf and vampire tried to kill mason bodyguard. That’s what it seems to me.


Skeptic on 3 individuals coming forward as town based on night action. If so just odd to paint targets for scum so easily. Maybe a misread for one but all 3 seems odd. Would be a hell of a mod setup. So maybe 2 are good, maybe all 3, but I can’t see more than 1 being misread and would potentially flow with story. Sonics an overthinker so not unusual to see this complicated setup but now that it’s just game and no more story then I wonder whether things are simpler then they seem. Hmmm


And straight up this May be a mistake but whoever attacked me last night come at me again bro. That’s right masons I am the driver slash mason bodyguard. Two shot as sonic explained already so my info is irrelevant now as I expect I’ll be a three night target. Side note though for scum, after my two shots are up I have a kamikaze power which agreed is a lot of extra flavor but like I said, come at me bro. Love to take one of you out ya filthy bag


Interesting claim....

Also, the story claims it to be a striga vampire no? Did I miss something?
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby strike wolf on Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:13 am

To be fair, I don't think Kong is confirmed town. He merely said that he received a note which makes this seem like another person's had an action used on Kong. I feel like him coming forward quickly leans for Kong to be town but we should not consider him confirmed town.
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Re: The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone

Postby *Pixar* on Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:50 am

strike wolf wrote:To be fair, I don't think Kong is confirmed town. He merely said that he received a note which makes this seem like another person's had an action used on Kong. I feel like him coming forward quickly leans for Kong to be town but we should not consider him confirmed town.


I would agree with that, could just be trying to give himself town credit by coming forward.
Also would not give Devante the full town lean as well. Claiming so early is odd, with no pressure. But who knows I've been known to do that as well.
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