Friends & Enemies & Enemies & That Other Guy - Wolves Won

[Charle]

Hi guys,

Welcome to my first hosting game. We will play the setup as per the URL below. Roles were allocated randomly and will be in your inboxes soon:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Friends_and_Enemies_and_Enemies_and_That_Other_Guy

Additional Rules:
1. Mafia, Wolves and Masons may talk during night and day
2. When the Back-up Mason die before any of the Masons, then the Masons go without a backup (there is only one backup and at this stage, I am the only one knowing who he is)

STANDARD RULES AS PER SIGN-UP THREAD

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PLAYER LIST:
1. DDS (Yes) Killed Night 3 by Wolves - Town Mason
2. Sonic (Yes) Lynched Day 3 - Mafia
3. Kong (Yes) Replaced by pmchugh
4. EW (Yes) Killed Night 2 by Mafia - Wolf
5. Devante (Yes) Killed Night 1 by Wolves - Vanilla Town
6. Loose (Yes) Killed Night 4 by Wolves - Town Mason
7. Strike (Yes) Killed Night 1 by Mafia - Vanilla Town
8. Ragian (Yes) Lynched Day 2 - Vanilla Town
9. Max (Yes)
10. Traf (Yes) Killed Night 2 by Wolves - Mafia
11. PepeAtila (Yes)

SUB
1. pmc

I will post in this blue colour, so please do not use the same in your posts.

Game start as soon as everybody confirmed they received and understand their roles.

Enjoy!!

[Extreme Ways]

Understood

[SoN!c]

Confirmed - gonna be a though ride figuring this out

[DirtyDishSoap]

Confirmed that i am once again, the SK.

Also, vote the Ragian for that time of the month again. That'll show you, ya putz!

[Loose Canon]

Role understood thanks Charle

[Ragian]

Role received and understood. Vote Son!c for obvious personal reasons.

[PepeAtila]

rol received.

[strike wolf]

Confirmed.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Role confirmed

[kongming3]

Got it

[Loose Canon]

We have to lynch day 1 and every day.
Does anyone disagree?

[SoN!c]

We have to lynch day 1 and every day.
Does anyone disagree?

I looked up mafia wiki and looked for "best to play scenario's" based on mafia wiki stats on this scenario. I deleted that idea in the end because the game only starts when everybody has confirmed their role invite..

Only 9 confirmed sofar? So first we need to wait on everybody's confirmed status. That means waiting on Max too and whatever he wants to say

And the deleted idea was basically to ask EW what would be the best play here (having no PR). Last game lynching D1 turned out to be a bad idea so hearing EW and following EW seems plan? 7 to 11 chance EW is town and if he is not we will notice it when he posts something deviant perhaps? Also Lynching D1 means very blind (as good as random) odds that we will lynch on 4/11 odds hitting scum (very low chance)? Is not helping if we lynch town. We should hear very experienced players first is my idea. Though nut to crack here

[Devante]

Confirmed

[Loose Canon]

Charle , I presume there will be 2 night kills each night?

Can one or both of the scum factions opt not to kill though?

And what happens if Mafia player1 tries to kill Werewolf player1 AND Werewolf player1 tries to kill Mafia player1?

[Ragian]

Sheesh...let us at least have a friggin' joke vote phase.

[SoN!c]

Sheesh...let us at least have a friggin' joke vote phase.

Okay

Vote Max for still not saying whatever he wanted to say (not even saying "confirmed - i got it")

[Loose Canon]

Ok rag

B Road is having a drink at the bar. A road walks in and takes it from him.

Motorway walks in punches A road then shouts out drinks all round on A road

Green tarmac walks in spits in Motorways drink and tells Motorway to buy him a double then go and sit next to B road.

B road asks Motorway why he let Green tarmac treat him like that.

Motorway says he won't mess with Green tarmac cos he's a cyclepath.

[Extreme Ways]

We have to lynch day 1 and every day.
Does anyone disagree?

I looked up mafia wiki and looked for "best to play scenario's" based on mafia wiki stats on this scenario. I deleted that idea in the end because the game only starts when everybody has confirmed their role invite..

Only 9 confirmed sofar? So first we need to wait on everybody's confirmed status. That means waiting on Max too and whatever he wants to say

And the deleted idea was basically to ask EW what would be the best play here (having no PR). Last game lynching D1 turned out to be a bad idea so hearing EW and following EW seems plan? 7 to 11 chance EW is town and if he is not we will notice it when he posts something deviant perhaps? Also Lynching D1 means very blind (as good as random) odds that we will lynch on 4/11 odds hitting scum (very low chance)? Is not helping if we lynch town. We should hear very experienced players first is my idea. Though nut to crack here

Why am I the designated person to ask?

In general, wrt no lynch day 1 (ESPECIALLY in a setup with no prs): theres always going to be 'higher chances' of voting a town out, if there isnt then mafia has won. Well, except in this case w/ werewolves I guess. Would you rather have a day 1 elim with some info into 2 nightkills, or no info at all into 2 nightkills? Everybody will say they are town, but the movement of people and who they are (un)aligning with is better info if you dont enter the day with a mindset of "pressure, but never eliminate".

With that being said, I dont like you shifting responsibility onto me when you've just hard carried town the previous game. vote sonic

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Wait, so there are 3 Factions, right? Masons the good townies, Werewolfs and Mafia. Werewolfs and Mafia don't know the other faction members right?
It can be 2 guaranteed kills on the night. but might not be a townie as factions cand hit each other I guess.

[Extreme Ways]

Wait, so there are 3 Factions, right? Masons the good townies, Werewolfs and Mafia. Werewolfs and Mafia don't know the other faction members right?
It can be 2 guaranteed kills on the night. but might not be a townie as factions cand hit each other I guess.

Yeah but just in case people misread you: town is a faction, mason is a neighbourhood within town.

The two evil factions need to eliminate the other faction too, this game can technically end in a draw for all 3 factions.

[Devante]

So if I have this understood right:

Mafia kills wolves and mason and draws or outvotes town they win

Wolves kill mafia and mason and draws or outvotes town they win

Mason and town kills wolves and mafia - Town wins

That right?

[Charle]

Ok, it is officially day (I will prod Max and if he still stay away I might ask pmc to stand in)

Have fun mothers!!

[Charle]

Charle , I presume there will be 2 night kills each night? Yes

Can one or both of the scum factions opt not to kill though? Yes

And what happens if Mafia player1 tries to kill Werewolf player1 AND Werewolf player1 tries to kill Mafia player1?

each one will die

[Charle]

Wait, so there are 3 Factions, right? Masons the good townies, Werewolfs and Mafia. Werewolfs and Mafia don't know the other faction members right?
It can be 2 guaranteed kills on the night. but might not be a townie as factions cand hit each other I guess.

Yeah but just in case people misread you: town is a faction, mason is a neighbourhood within town.

The two evil factions need to eliminate the other faction too, this game can technically end in a draw for all 3 factions.

Yes exactly. The masons are part of town, their only advantage is that they know who each other are and can talk day and night, but still part of town.

Yes, it is possible that we end up with 3 people, one from each faction and then it will be a draw.

Hint:
When you look at the bottom of the "setup" page you will find history games and can see how others played this setup before

[SoN!c]

Hint:
When you look at the bottom of the "setup" page you will find history games and can see how others played this setup before

Yes, i saw that.. That history mentiones 3 games and all 3 of those games ended up the same way: town lost and on D1 there was (three out of three times).. a townie lynched..
Thats why i asked EW advice (knowing how experienced he is on other mafia forums), and after LC strongly asks to lynch on D1.

We have to lynch day 1 and every day.
Does anyone disagree?