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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:16 pm

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jonesthecurl wrote:Which version of the ten commandments are they going to display?


Probably the one with the loophole that makes it okay to sell bombs to Israel and Saudi Arabia.


This would be ALOT easier if they could just use the Koran.


Sounds like you know a lot about the Qur'an and Islam.


I'm sure you know it much better than I, but I can pull a quote out from time to time and sometimes it even contains a loophole someone was asking about

The Koran/Qur'an/Quran - [2:191] wrote:You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you.


Now don't get me wrong, I am not personally supporting a position here... I'm just pointing out if you wanted to find a quote from a holy book that supported your right to wage war even if it might pervert the intended meaning... then the Koran is the path of least resistance.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:16 pm

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Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


Most of the messages I post are love and mercy. Constant call to return. Rarely wrath but it’s in the mix.


So if I vote for Biden I can still go to heaven?
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby HitRed on Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:28 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
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Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


Most of the messages I post are love and mercy. Constant call to return. Rarely wrath but it’s in the mix.


So if I vote for Biden I can still go to heaven?


I don’t judge souls, but He does.

This is what you are looking for.

January 14, 20

I am the way. I am the Prince of Peace. My ways are paved with love for each soul. My heart is marked by the piercing I received while I was on the Cross. More wounds have been put there. The killing of many of my children through abortion. The wound is so grave it is hard to bear at times. Life is so fragile no human can know.

I come to right the wrongs that have been done to my heart and God the Father. My heart bleeds for these children that are unwanted and thrown away like trash. I created each and every soul that has been lost to this grave sin abortion.

I call all to pray for an end to this grave sin. Put an end to the suffering my children are going through. I call for the repeal of such laws that permit this. I witness the death of my children daily.

Many do not see the harm they do when they kill my little ones. The pain that is caused in so many ways. The grief my Father and I feel for the loss of so many little ones to this horrible sin. My mother weeps over this grave loss of life.

Do not vote Democrat it would be a mortal sin to vote for this party. They do not support life in any form. They are self-love and not about me the creator of life itself. Their ways are not my ways, says the Lord of Hosts.

I call on people to follow the way of life. Each and every soul has its worth for I am the one who made them. I called all to life before time itself. I was there to witness life start. Each and every life is precious to me and my Father.

Go in my love and my mercy.


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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:36 pm

HitRed wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


Most of the messages I post are love and mercy. Constant call to return. Rarely wrath but it’s in the mix.


I wasn't targeting you with that comment, but if you want to own it, feel free.

Mainly referring to those with enough power to influence the laws.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:21 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
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mookiemcgee wrote:
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Pack Rat wrote:[b][size=200]Install these 10 Commandments and take away free lunch from children...sounds very Christ-like.


Who is taking away Free School Lunches? And did you provide any evidence, p-rat?



since you asked...

Provides evidence


Liberal and biased. No need to read.


lol, brother you asked who is taking away free school lunches. It's the republicans, and it took about 5 seconds to google and find 3 articles showing... it's the republicans. You can pivot to saying 'we have to stop feeding hungry kids because it's bankrupting the country' if you want but you are A) confirming that republicans are engaged in efforts geared at taking away free lunch for kids B) making your budgetary priorities clear, more 10 commandment posters, fewer free meals.


If I could ACT, I would prefer to give $1 billion dollars for Free Lunches for School children and LESS to Ukraine, or Israel, or even less to the US Military (with some investigation and not a blanket cut). But I am not in that position to do so. I also think cutting school lunch programs and social security is a NO win argument, WITHOUT bipartisan support. Those are simply BAD PR and bad policy. Did I argue for such cuts? NO.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:56 am

mookiemcgee wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
bigtoughralf wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Which version of the ten commandments are they going to display?


Probably the one with the loophole that makes it okay to sell bombs to Israel and Saudi Arabia.


This would be ALOT easier if they could just use the Koran.


Sounds like you know a lot about the Qur'an and Islam.


I'm sure you know it much better than I, but I can pull a quote out from time to time and sometimes it even contains a loophole someone was asking about

The Koran/Qur'an/Quran - [2:191] wrote:You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you.


Now don't get me wrong, I am not personally supporting a position here... I'm just pointing out if you wanted to find a quote from a holy book that supported your right to wage war even if it might pervert the intended meaning... then the Koran is the path of least resistance.


That's about self-defense. Not sure what that has to do with my original comment. Or why you decided to look up Qur'an quotes in the first place.

I was making a point that the US government likes to claim it's Christian but then does very un-Christian things.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:47 am

So does 99% of religious people out there. This isn't new.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Votanic on Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:02 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:[b][size=200]Install these 10 Commandments and take away free lunch from children...sounds very Christ-like.


Who is taking away Free School Lunches? And did you provide any evidence, p-rat?



since you asked...

Provides evidence


Liberal and biased. No need to read.


lol, brother you asked who is taking away free school lunches. It's the republicans, and it took about 5 seconds to google and find 3 articles showing... it's the republicans. You can pivot to saying 'we have to stop feeding hungry kids because it's bankrupting the country' if you want but you are A) confirming that republicans are engaged in efforts geared at taking away free lunch for kids B) making your budgetary priorities clear, more 10 commandment posters, fewer free meals.


If I could ACT, I would prefer to give $1 billion dollars for Free Lunches for School children and LESS to Ukraine, or Israel, or even less to the US Military (with some investigation and not a blanket cut). But I am not in that position to do so. I also think cutting school lunch programs and social security is a NO win argument, WITHOUT bipartisan support. Those are simply BAD PR and bad policy. Did I argue for such cuts? NO.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCHES.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Votanic on Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:11 am

Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'

In part, I could argue that there is no contradiction between a list of prohibited 'Shall Nots' and recommended 'Shalls'. [
size=85]Actually at least three of the commandments are worded as affirmatives anyway.[/size]


But more to the point, we also need to acknowledge that the Beatitudes largely come off sounding like seven different flavours of apathy and resignation.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:47 pm

Votanic wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
Who is taking away Free School Lunches? And did you provide any evidence, p-rat?



since you asked...

Provides evidence


Liberal and biased. No need to read.


lol, brother you asked who is taking away free school lunches. It's the republicans, and it took about 5 seconds to google and find 3 articles showing... it's the republicans. You can pivot to saying 'we have to stop feeding hungry kids because it's bankrupting the country' if you want but you are A) confirming that republicans are engaged in efforts geared at taking away free lunch for kids B) making your budgetary priorities clear, more 10 commandment posters, fewer free meals.


If I could ACT, I would prefer to give $1 billion dollars for Free Lunches for School children and LESS to Ukraine, or Israel, or even less to the US Military (with some investigation and not a blanket cut). But I am not in that position to do so. I also think cutting school lunch programs and social security is a NO win argument, WITHOUT bipartisan support. Those are simply BAD PR and bad policy. Did I argue for such cuts? NO.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCHES.


I agree: no such thing as a Free Lunch, to paraphrase both Robert Heinlein and Milton Friedman. I argued that same point back in 2019:

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=230724&p=5109128&hilit=Free+lunch#p5109128
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby HitRed on Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:59 pm

Writing "Blessed are the merciful,.." on court buildings would be interesting.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:51 pm

HitRed wrote:Writing "Blessed are the merciful,.." on court buildings would be interesting.


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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby IcePack on Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:49 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:So does 99% of religious people out there. This isn't new.


People are fallible, even religious ones. People have higher expectations of those of faith, but they’re still people often still learning.

Granted most follow organizations and not the person / teachings so it’s easy to go astray or fail while under the microscope of criticism.

Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


Like most things it’s used pervertedly for personal gain, power, political points, oppression / control. I’d dare say most of its use isn’t genuine within political circles, certainly.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Tim Julius on Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:04 am

Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


You're absolutely right; many people identify as Christians but don't fully follow the teachings of the Old or New Testament.

For example, eating pork is forbidden in Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, yet the United States is the largest consumer of pork in the world.

You can't truly follow a religion by selectively choosing what suits you and ignoring what doesn't.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:53 am

Tim Julius wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I read an interesting comment somewhere yesterday.

'It seems people love to plaster the 10 Commandments on public buildings, but they never seem to be interested in the Beatitudes. They call themselves Christians, but they're more interested in the vengeful god of the Old Testament than the merciful god of the New. Never a mention of "blessed are the merciful", or "blessed are the peacemakers".'


You're absolutely right; many people identify as Christians but don't fully follow the teachings of the Old or New Testament.

For example, eating pork is forbidden in Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, yet the United States is the largest consumer of pork in the world.

You can't truly follow a religion by selectively choosing what suits you and ignoring what doesn't.


There is no prohibition against Christians to eat pork. The prohibition is to avoid meat offered as sacrifice to pagan gods.

Acts 15:29 New International Version (NIV)

You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.


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28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:02 pm

Hello my fellow AMERICANS!
Trump promises to return jobs back to AMERICA! Trump will make sure there's a Trump Bible in every school in Oklahoma!




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WASHINGTON (AP) — Thousands of copies of Donald Trump’s “God Bless the USA” Bible were printed in a country that the former president has repeatedly accused of stealing American jobs and engaging in unfair trade practices — China.

Global trade records reviewed by The Associated Press show a printing company in China’s eastern city of Hangzhou shipped close to 120,000 of the Bibles to the United States between early February and late March.

The estimated value of the three separate shipments was $342,000, or less than $3 per Bible, according to databases that use customs data to track exports and imports. The minimum price for the Trump-backed Bible is $59.99, putting the potential sales revenue at about $7 million.

The Trump Bible’s connection to China, which has not been previously reported, reveals a deep divide between the former president’s harsh anti-China rhetoric and his rush to cash in while campaigning.

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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:08 pm

----------Texas as in the OP...Was putting a bill forward, like other states...Putting the 10 COMMANDMENTS in Public Schools......
---------Following Oklahoma ...Texas has just passed it's Law.... 10 COMMANDMENTS are back in Texas Public Schools... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

---------Remember The Golden Rule...Maybe that will come back in schools...Now that the 10 COMMANDMENTS are back...
--------- The LEFT is already crying...Why???... Is it so wrong, to tell children early...Not to steal , not to KILL...Think of all the school shootings...Not the guns, but the students without GOD in their lives...Is why schools get shot up...
-------- Plus The Golden Rule....Do unto others, As you would have them do unto you...Yet the LEFT is sh*ting in their pants...WHY???...Because it hurts their attack on the 2nd Amendment ;) ;) ;) ...Rather than teach kids it's wrong to KILL, by any means...
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:33 am

Have we decided which version of the 10 commandments yet?
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:19 am

jonesthecurl wrote:Have we decided which version of the 10 commandments yet?

------- Pretty sure, The King James Version......
-------They have passed putting THE 10 COMMANDMENTS in the Public Schools...
-------- That video about Oklahoma, spending 3 Million on 55,000 Bibles...Why???
------- The law doesn't say, Show Bibles....Why not just , maybe 1 Bible per school, instead of 1 Bible for every Teacher/Classroom...You really need a Bible...
------- All you have to do is go to the office...Copy THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...Put them on a wall...In the classrooms...Even copy and pass them out to every student...Or have the students copy them into a notebook...They can learn not to steal, kill...Maybe schools will Go Back to Teaching The Golden Rule...
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Evil Semp on Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:02 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Which version of the ten commandments are they going to display?


They version that they print on flak jackets.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby kennyp72 on Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:00 am

ConfederateSS wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Have we decided which version of the 10 commandments yet?

------- Pretty sure, The King James Version......
-------They have passed putting THE 10 COMMANDMENTS in the Public Schools...
-------- That video about Oklahoma, spending 3 Million on 55,000 Bibles...Why???
------- The law doesn't say, Show Bibles....Why not just , maybe 1 Bible per school, instead of 1 Bible for every Teacher/Classroom...You really need a Bible...
------- All you have to do is go to the office...Copy THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...Put them on a wall...In the classrooms...Even copy and pass them out to every student...Or have the students copy them into a notebook...They can learn not to steal, kill...Maybe schools will Go Back to Teaching The Golden Rule...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


The King James Version.

Oh my.

Church Of England commissioned. Written in AD1604...
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:37 am

kennyp72 wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Have we decided which version of the 10 commandments yet?

------- Pretty sure, The King James Version......
-------They have passed putting THE 10 COMMANDMENTS in the Public Schools...
-------- That video about Oklahoma, spending 3 Million on 55,000 Bibles...Why???
------- The law doesn't say, Show Bibles....Why not just , maybe 1 Bible per school, instead of 1 Bible for every Teacher/Classroom...You really need a Bible...
------- All you have to do is go to the office...Copy THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...Put them on a wall...In the classrooms...Even copy and pass them out to every student...Or have the students copy them into a notebook...They can learn not to steal, kill...Maybe schools will Go Back to Teaching The Golden Rule...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


The King James Version.

Oh my.

Church Of England commissioned. Written in AD1604...


Still considered a classic work of English. Still the most quoted.
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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:38 am

Dukasaur wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Have we decided which version of the 10 commandments yet?

------- Pretty sure, The King James Version......
-------They have passed putting THE 10 COMMANDMENTS in the Public Schools...
-------- That video about Oklahoma, spending 3 Million on 55,000 Bibles...Why???
------- The law doesn't say, Show Bibles....Why not just , maybe 1 Bible per school, instead of 1 Bible for every Teacher/Classroom...You really need a Bible...
------- All you have to do is go to the office...Copy THE 10 COMMANDMENTS...Put them on a wall...In the classrooms...Even copy and pass them out to every student...Or have the students copy them into a notebook...They can learn not to steal, kill...Maybe schools will Go Back to Teaching The Golden Rule...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


The King James Version.

Oh my.

Church Of England commissioned. Written in AD1604...


Still considered a classic work of English. Still the most quoted.


I totally agree with Duk on this point. National Geographic had a great article about this some ten years ago. This video may make some of those same points. This one (below) is about 28 minutes.

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Re: THE 10 COMMANDMENTS are back America!!!

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:49 pm

The thief, male or female, you shall mark their hands as a punishment for their crime, and to serve as an example from God. God is Almighty, Most Wise.

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