[CL15] Third Division - ACES Win - MVP: LFAW

[groovysmurf]

Clan League 15 - Third Division
2023/24


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[groovysmurf]

Round 1 - Everything looks good

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Thanks groovy

[groovysmurf]

Round 2 Home - Just a couple issues here. RGV is wonderful.
KNT and AFOS both mislabeled, a PM was sent and both replied and remade their games immediately.
DBD also mislabeled, a PM was sent, but no response yet. If not remade by 23:59 CCT on 10/30/23, an infraction will be issued.

Added 10/30/23 at about 18:00 CCT: DBD has remade their home games. So all is good here now.

Added 11/6/23 at about 00:30 CCT:
Round 2 Away - All invites sent and accepted.

[gorehound]

Please cancel Game 22809719. I will remake the game.
RGV didn't wait 12 minutes, much less 12 hours for the fog rule and didn't reply to the requested information as to what was taken and what could have been seen from those territs, until 4 hours after the time for our move expired, and even then not fully. Please cancel the game and let us know, so that we can remake it.

TY,

gore

[Doc_Brown]

Please cancel Game 22809719. I will remake the game.
RGV didn't wait 12 minutes, much less 12 hours for the fog rule and didn't reply to the requested information as to what was taken and what could have been seen from those territs, until 4 hours after the time for our move expired, and even then not fully. Please cancel the game and let us know, so that we can remake it.

TY,

gore

You should have a snapshot available now anyway. As of Nov. 1, the site automatically generates a snapshot when the game is created. Look in the Snapshots panel (or if needed, first go to your Settings under the Personal Menu on the left edge of the screen and turn on Panel Interface, Automated Snapshots, and Snapshots in Chat).

[Caymanmew]

Please cancel Game 22809719. I will remake the game.
RGV didn't wait 12 minutes, much less 12 hours for the fog rule and didn't reply to the requested information as to what was taken and what could have been seen from those territs, until 4 hours after the time for our move expired, and even then not fully. Please cancel the game and let us know, so that we can remake it.

TY,

gore

Hey Gorehound,

The 12-hour fog rule is not an enforced rule in CL. Although we do have it in place it is simply a gentlemen's agreement type rule here. If you check out the Rules and Infractions spoiler in the main CL thread you'll find the following...

While the TO will not be enforcing, the 12-hour Fog of War Rule is in effect and everyone is expected to follow it. The 12-hour Fog of War Rule as defined by the CDs is that "The player with first turn must wait 12 hours before playing a first turn that would alter the opposing team's view of the map."

As Doc said in the post above, autosnaps are now in place so you and/or your teammate should have a snap in the snapshot tab.

For now, although still unenforced in CL, we expect clans to honor the 12-hour fog rule, in the future, once we are sure auto snaps are working correctly we will be phasing out the rule.

[gorehound]

Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, waiting for a reply (not forthcoming in time) from RGV meant we missed a turn which set us at a disadvantage.

[Doc_Brown]

Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, waiting for a reply (not forthcoming in time) from RGV meant we missed a turn which set us at a disadvantage.

Mate, I hate to say it, but I think this is on you. When I've had these situations in the past, I immediately send a wall post and PM to every single player on the other team plus their Clan Contacts. Players don't regularly look at games in which they (or their team members) are not up to take a turn, so just asking for the information in game chat is never going to get results. You should never fail to take a turn regardless. On top of that, as noted, the snapshot was available to you - I realize not everyone pays attention to announcements and forum updates, but you could have accessed it in your snapshots panel. And then, as Cay pointed out, CDs are not enforcing the 12-hour rule. So I know it's a frustrating situation, but I don't think you can expect any reparations to be forthcoming.

[gorehound]

Thank you for the info. Unfortunately, waiting for a reply (not forthcoming in time) from RGV meant we missed a turn which set us at a disadvantage.

Mate, I hate to say it, but I think this is on you. When I've had these situations in the past, I immediately send a wall post and PM to every single player on the other team plus their Clan Contacts. Players don't regularly look at games in which they (or their team members) are not up to take a turn, so just asking for the information in game chat is never going to get results. You should never fail to take a turn regardless. On top of that, as noted, the snapshot was available to you - I realize not everyone pays attention to announcements and forum updates, but you could have accessed it in your snapshots panel. And then, as Cay pointed out, CDs are not enforcing the 12-hour rule. So I know it's a frustrating situation, but I don't think you can expect any reparations to be forthcoming.

lol, not expecting reparations, but did eventually receive a belated apology. That will have to do.

[groovysmurf]

Round 3 Home - All looks good!

[groovysmurf]

Round 4 Home - KNT games not made. They have been messaged. Everything else looks good.

Added 12/12/23 at about 15:00 CCT:
All games made, though missing a few invites for the KNT games. They did receive an infraction for being late and AFOS has an extra day to fill the games.

Aways look good.

[StackedAmazon]

Hi There,

For the contacts for RGV, could you please remove Fewnix and replace with Kaiser_Tottenham.

Thanks,

[groovysmurf]

Hi There,

For the contacts for RGV, could you please remove Fewnix and replace with Kaiser_Tottenham.

Thanks,

Done. Issued him privileges as well.

[MichelSableheart]

Based on early results, the Round 4 match between ACES and DBD could well be deciding the division. ACES looks to be winning both the Home and Away set though. Is it too early to crown a champion?

[LFAW]

ACES have won both sets. Current scores stand at 9-2 for ACES Home and 4-7 for DBD Home. The lads were told that the war would be over by Christmas. Turns out this was greatly exaggerated

[shoop76]

Not sure if you guys realize but this is a double round robin, so all clans will play all clans again. A lot can still happen, though I doubt ACES will run into a lot of problems.

[LFAW]

Not sure if you guys realize but this is a double round robin, so all clans will play all clans again. A lot can still happen, though I doubt ACES will run into a lot of problems.

We're aware. That's why I made the joke that the victory is yet to come (war won't be over by christmas)

[groovysmurf]

Round 5 Home - Everything looks good. KNT has been reminded about their game labels, but since this one doesn't have any misinformation, we're letting them go through as is.

Round 5 Away - All good.

[groovysmurf]

Round 6 Home - Everything looks good.

Round 6 Away - All good.

Round 7 Home - DBD asked for and was granted a 48hr extension; KNT will have 48 additional hours to fill those games.

Round 7 Away - All good.

[groovysmurf]

Round 8 Home - DBD asked for and was granted a 48hr extension; AFOS will have 48 additional hours to fill those games.

All good here.

Round 8 Away - All good.

[groovysmurf]

Round 9 Home - All good.

Round 9 Away - All invites sent except for KNT; I've messaged them and they will receive an infraction if not done by 23:59 CCT on Monday, April 8th. DBD has a few invites not yet accepted, but looks to just be a freemium waiting for some free slots.

All good.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Having reached 6 wins vs DBD away - ACES is mathematically champions of the Third Division

DBD will draw us home as well so we won't get a perfect score as we were hoping. But we can still win the league undefeated.

[groovysmurf]

Round 10 Home - Just DBD haven't made their home games. I've sent them a message requesting it be done asap.

[groovysmurf]

Congratulations to the winning clan: ACES and to their chosen MVP: LFAW, who has received 1500 credits and a clan achievement.

Final Standings
ACES - 31
DBD - 20
RGV - 13
KNT - 10
AFOS - 6