The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Wolves win

[Ragian]

Town is the majority. Not three people.

[Ragian]

As promised: Vote Maxleod.

Time to claim, my friend. Even if your socks are clean, this is the way town has voted as of now.

[Ragian]

(Also, I'm away for a birthday most of today. FYI.)

[DirtyDishSoap]

My birthday isn't for 10 months, you're full of it. Mod kill!

[Charle]

(Also, I'm away for a birthday most of today. FYI.)

Happy birthday bud!! Enjoy, it is your day!! Talk tomorrow again

[Charle]

Max holding off his claim sounds very scummy to me, time is ticking

[degaston]

Max holding off his claim sounds very scummy to me, time is ticking

He's apparently had time to make his moves...

Game 22960801 2024-01-20 17:11:42 - Maxleod ended the turn and got spoils
Game 22975493 2024-01-20 21:04:26 - Maxleod ended the turn
Game 22984158 2024-01-21 13:56:58 - Maxleod ended the turn

[Maxleod]

OK, now, regarding dega:

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=240548&start=425#p5311691

So for me, I'm somewhat suspicious of Charle for suggesting we vig Vot, but I think Max has racked up the most scummy points in my book:

his plan to vig LC and maybe lose both our Barkeep and our Barber.
his reasoning that the Bailiff was killed because the wolves already have all the public roles.
his trying to draw suspicion towards me based on my supposed lack of participation.
that he wants to lynch our Barber.
his incorrect analysis of the Wolf Father.
his praise of Charle after he walked back his kill Vot idea.


I don't like trying to start a new bandwagon at this point, but...
Vote Maxleod

-The Wolves must have had a reason to kill the Bailiff instead of the Confessor, the Bonesetter or the Barber; all of these roles are more dangerous to the Wolves than the Bailiff. And I think everyone but dega will agree with that. The Wolves wanted to make sure no Townie could get a public role.

-Speaking of public roles/powers, dega already's got one. Because he's dega and apparently got a lot of street cred in Mafia games. See how quickly many people jumped on the wagon he started to lynch me? Gullible Townies will just be cult followers and dega is their leader. Oh, and this: "I don't like trying to start a new bandwagon at this point, but...
Vote Maxleod"
Of course he's lying about not liking it, but there's something more interesting in that sentence: he KNOWS there will be a wagon, and that many people will follow his lead. Like I said, cult leader. And that makes him dangerous. The influence he has on people alone is, in and of itself, a Power Role. What if he's a Wolf? Then what? He's too dangerous.

-"that he wants to lynch our Barber."
THAT'S A FUCKING LIE. I NEVER SAID I WANTED TO LYNCH SWANG.
My vote on swang was only to put pressure on him so that he kills the Barkeep. I've already explained my plan; people may or may not agree with it, but I think it's a good one. Besides, Vot's plan is based on mine, or at least has the same goal, and results: to ascertain than neither the Barkeep nor the Barber are Wolves (and if they are, they die).

-How was my analysis incorrect exactly? If vot hadn't confessed Strike we'd have two more Wolves than now is all I said.

-Bottomline: dega is full of shit.

[degaston]

The Wolves must have had a reason to kill the Bailiff instead of the Confessor, the Bonesetter or the Barber; all of these roles are more dangerous to the Wolves than the Bailiff. And I think everyone but dega will agree with that. The Wolves wanted to make sure no Townie could get a public role.

What would be the point of killing the Confessor if the Bailiff could just replace him with someone else, who would then have the power to get another confession? Also, if the wolves have a BBW, they may have tried to kill both and only one succeeded. And, to try to follow your logic: If I'm a wolf, why would I have killed the Bailiff instead of hoping to get a power role for myself?

-Speaking of public roles/powers, dega already's got one. Because he's dega and apparently got a lot of street cred in Mafia games. See how quickly many people jumped on the wagon he started to lynch me? Gullible Townies will just be cult followers and dega is their leader. Oh, and this: "I don't like trying to start a new bandwagon at this point, but...
Vote Maxleod"
Of course he's lying about not liking it, but there's something more interesting in that sentence: he KNOWS there will be a wagon, and that many people will follow his lead. Like I said, cult leader. And that makes him dangerous. The influence he has on people alone is, in and of itself, a Power Role. What if he's a Wolf? Then what? He's too dangerous.

Can I help it if I make persuasive, logical arguments?

-"that he wants to lynch our Baber."
THAT'S A FUCKING LIE. I NEVER SAID I WANTED TO LYNCH SWANG.
My vote on swang was only to put pressure on him so that he kills the Barkeep. I've already explained my plan; people may or may not agree with it, but I think it's a good one. Besides, Vot's plan is based on mine, or at least has the same goal, and results: to ascertain than neither the Barkeep nor the Barber are Wolves (and if they are, they die).

Oh really?

OK, here's what I think:

-Swang kills Loose Cannon (we can't lynch him because of his immunity). If Swang refuses to do so we lynch him (the wolves targetting the Bailiff N1 probably means that all wolves already are in a position of power).

So either Swang makes a random hit on someone who, if they are town would result in his own death, or else we lynch him?

-How was my analysis incorrect exactly? If vot hadn't confessed Strike we'd have two more Wolves than now is all I said.

No, you said this:

Remember Papa Wolf died Day 1. If he hadn't, by Day 3 we'd be with two Townies converted, minus 2 townies, plus 2 wolves.

The AWF only gets one conversion. Not the biggest deal, maybe you made a careless mistake, but because of my other points I thought I'd add it to the list.

[degaston]

@Maxleod
You're at L-2. Where's your claim?

[fusibaseball]

Why still no claim?

Vote Max

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Vote Count:
DirtyDishSoap - 2 Votes - (Anonymus)
Pixar - 1 Vote - Loose Canon
Sonic - 1 Vote - Votanic
Devante - 1 Vote - Swang
Swang - 1 Vote - Maxleod
Maxleod - 8 Votes - Degaston, DirtyDishSoap, Charle, Thor, Pixar, Ragian, Fusibaseball

With 16 players allowed to vote 9 are needed for a Lynch.

Reminder End of the Day is January 23 at 18:00 CC Time

[Votanic]

So Max is at hammer-time.. and I'm probably the one to do it.

Do I know that Max isa wolf with certainty? No, I do not.
Has his play and reasoning been off/ scummy? Yes.
Is his refusal to claim scummy? Possibly.
...I've already brought up the worst-case scenario that Max is something like the Defender or Seer.

Not lynching means dragging all the nonsense out for another day...

(Slow, deep breath)

Unvote
Vote Maxleod

Max, in his wolf suit.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

That is a lynch. Please wait for the scene before night. No more comments on the forum till D3

[TrafalgarLaw01]

The village heavily suspected Farmer Maxleod as he seemed to want the Barber to kill a public figure. So they decided to lynch him.

Maxleod


Allegiance - Town

The Hunter
If you get devoured by the werewolves or unfortunately lynched by the villagers, the Hunter must strike back with his last breath.

When Cornered The Hunter grabbed his shotgun and shot at the mob before dying himself.
The village with consternation realized the vagabond Fusibaseball had been shot.

Fusibaseball


Allegiance - Town

Simple Villager
Your only weapon is the ability to vote and analyze behavior to identify werewolves and prevent the execution of innocents like yourself.

With shock in his eyes DirtyDishSoap couldn’t believe what he saw his lover Fusibaseball is lying dead in the ground. He could not take it himself and decided to take his own life.


DirtyDishSoap


Allegiance - Town (Bitten)

The Stuttering Judge
The miller’s youngest son was gifted with studies and dreamed of becoming a lawyer. However he returned to the village of Miller’s Hollow with the prestigious title of wandering Judge.

The farmer mpolo wandered too far away from the town. the village never knew of him again.
Mod-killed

mpolo


Allegiance - Town

Simple Villager
Your only weapon is the ability to vote and analyze behavior to identify werewolves and prevent the execution of innocents like yourself.

It’s now N2, please send me your actions asap.

[Votanic]

So why in the heck wouldn't Townie Max claim being the Hunter...
Frankly, I lean towards the Meta reasons of RL spite and sabotage...
I might even doubt he sincerely thought Fusi was a wolf...

The arch-irony is that the wolves killed nobody last night... Either they tried the same target that was defended (probably Swang?)...or something else stopped them.

The only other good news is the Seer and the Defender weren't on last night's laundry-list of kills.
We might hear from the Seer today, but the somewhat greater likelihood is we will not.
Unless we do, this can be taken as evidence (not proof) that LC the Barkeep is Town.
The next step would be to ask for a claim, but that is always a two-edged sword, ...that is, if you even get a claim.

[Votanic]

EBWOP: Yikes. Posting before coffee...
Sorry, I was thinking it was Day 3...
Ignore all that, especially the part about the wolves.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

After a tragical day, the village went to sleep with fear and ashamed of what happened last day. Hoping for a tranquil night.

The sun comes again there are traces of blood in the village but fortunatelly nobody is dead

D3 is up you all might post in the forum

[TrafalgarLaw01]

with his last breath DDS appointed Pixar as Sheriif

[Extreme Ways]

Oof, bad day, good night. I'll probably have to show some more initiative here.

[Devante]

That was horrible. I have a couple questions whoever can answer them:

What does "(biten)" mean? DDS had it beside his allegiance

The traces of blood but no one dying. Does that mean there was an attempt, but it was blocked somehow, or are the wolves allowed to not pick someone to eat at night?

[degaston]

That was horrible. I have a couple questions whoever can answer them:

What does "(biten)" mean? DDS had it beside his allegiance

The traces of blood but no one dying. Does that mean there was an attempt, but it was blocked somehow, or are the wolves allowed to not pick someone to eat at night?

Maybe DDS died both because his lover died, and he was bitten?

I doubt the wolves would choose to not attack.

[degaston]

Would have been nice if Max had claimed. I don't know if safe claims were given out, but claiming Hunter could have saved him.
(Note to the new players, just tell the truth about your role if you get to L-2)

Looks like fusi would have died anyway if DDS was targeted by the wolves.

[Loose Canon]

I'm 100% Charle is a Werewolf

Vote: Extreme Ways

[degaston]

I'm 100% Charle is a Werewolf

Vote: Extreme Ways

Charle is a werewolf, but you're voting for EW?
WTF???