The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly Harris vs. Trump

[mookiemcgee]

Also, crypto CEO Sam Bankman-Fried now appears to be on the run after $2 billion in customer money went missing yesterday. After George Soros, Bankman-Fried was the second largest Rat donor this year, giving them $40 million. That's money that won't be available next time.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/12/1-billi ... eport.html

It's still unclear who stole the 2B (and some of that 2B was actually whitehats who removed some to multisig wallets that are 'safe'). Sam seems like a likely person but there are also disgruntled high up employees with the technical capability and know how. (i understand there were 10 people who ran FTX from the sexcult house in the bahamas).

Lots of rumors Sam is on a plane today to join Edward Snowden for dinner in Moscow tonight where he will be looking for a new home.

[saxitoxin]

Also, crypto CEO Sam Bankman-Fried now appears to be on the run after $2 billion in customer money went missing yesterday. After George Soros, Bankman-Fried was the second largest Rat donor this year, giving them $40 million. That's money that won't be available next time.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/12/1-billi ... eport.html

It's still unclear who stole the 2B (and some of that 2B was actually whitehats who removed some to multisig wallets that are 'safe'). Sam seems like a likely person but there are also disgruntled high up employees with the technical capability and know how. (i understand there were 10 people who ran FTX from the sexcult house in the bahamas).

Lots of rumors Sam is on a plane today to join Edward Snowden for dinner in Moscow tonight where he will be looking for a new home.

Did you listen in to Kimdotcom and Elon's Spaces chat last night? I only heard the last five minutes.

Also why can everyone find a nice wholesome sexcult except me?

[mookiemcgee]

Also, crypto CEO Sam Bankman-Fried now appears to be on the run after $2 billion in customer money went missing yesterday. After George Soros, Bankman-Fried was the second largest Rat donor this year, giving them $40 million. That's money that won't be available next time.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/12/1-billi ... eport.html

It's still unclear who stole the 2B (and some of that 2B was actually whitehats who removed some to multisig wallets that are 'safe'). Sam seems like a likely person but there are also disgruntled high up employees with the technical capability and know how. (i understand there were 10 people who ran FTX from the sexcult house in the bahamas).

Lots of rumors Sam is on a plane today to join Edward Snowden for dinner in Moscow tonight where he will be looking for a new home.

Did you listen in to Kimdotcom and Elon's Spaces chat last night? I only heard the last five minutes.

Also why can everyone find a nice wholesome sexcult except me?

By the time I joined the spaces I only caught like 5 min of elon before he ghosted. Frank from Degods/Yoots came on shortly after. I didn't plan on staying up super late last night but I got all caught up in the live tracking of everything the exploiters were doing draining the last bit of value out of FTX.

I would love to join a sex cult someday, the NXIM one sounded legit... but I'm not sure I'd really want to be on the sam and caroline do Epstein island 2.0... She's def 'not my type'. If you do find a good one Saxi, I will gladly play my part as Tom Cruise in eyes wide shut.

[saxitoxin]

So it's starting to look like Democratic 2022 campaigns were funded by the U.S. taxpayer using FTX as a pass-through in a pretty straightforward money laundering operation.

The U.S. Treasury was sending money to Ukraine which was dumping it into FTX, FTX was then paying the Democrats a cut in the form of $40 MM confirmed (probably closer to $75 MM) in campaign donations from Sam Bankman-Fried's PAC -- a guy who went from being a 26 year-old intern in 2018 to heading a $44 billion Ponzi scheme and being the DNC's #2 donor in 36 months. Once the cash was received the Treasury would then release another tranche to the Ukrainian authorities and the process would repeat.

No wonder Sam has fled to Argentina. This dude is in serious danger of being the victim of a random mugging that goes wrong, or accidentally locking himself inside a carry-on bag. As the big guy said, "no one fucks with a Biden."

[jimboston]

Awesome.

Gotta love “never give up never die” Saxi.

Did you come up with that or is someone else feeding you this BS?

[jusplay4fun]

Also, crypto CEO Sam Bankman-Fried now appears to be on the run after $2 billion in customer money went missing yesterday. After George Soros, Bankman-Fried was the second largest Rat donor this year, giving them $40 million. That's money that won't be available next time.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/12/1-billi ... eport.html

It's still unclear who stole the 2B (and some of that 2B was actually whitehats who removed some to multisig wallets that are 'safe'). Sam seems like a likely person but there are also disgruntled high up employees with the technical capability and know how. (i understand there were 10 people who ran FTX from the sexcult house in the bahamas).

Lots of rumors Sam is on a plane today to join Edward Snowden for dinner in Moscow tonight where he will be looking for a new home.

Did you listen in to Kimdotcom and Elon's Spaces chat last night? I only heard the last five minutes.

Also why can everyone find a nice wholesome sexcult except me?

My money is on the facts that you are UGLY, poor (no money), and have bad breath. And your pimples do not help, and neither do your PAL ralph.

[saxitoxin]

Awesome.

Gotta love “never give up never die” Saxi.

Did you come up with that or is someone else feeding you this BS?

Feeding me what? It's an established fact Sam is the #2 donor to the Democratic Party. It's an established fact that his only source of income was FTX. It's an established fact that FTX was the crypto broker for the Ukraine government. It's an established fact that the U.S. has donated $50 B to Ukraine in the last 12 months (1/3 of its GDP).

What don't you get about this?

If there was zero coordination then, yes, this would all be perfectly legal. Nonetheless, in any country on Earth this would smell bad enough it would prompt a major investigation by an ombudsman's office, a special prosecutor, or judicial police to ensure everything was on the up-and-up.

In the U.S. this happens and people just raise an eyebrow and say "that's a funny set of coincidences! weird! Oh well. People are probably being honest. No reason to check."

Major red warning lights of blatant, naked corruption occurring in plain sight with no recourse and no means of independent investigation. America is a failed state.

[saxitoxin]

And FTX had a top quartile ESG score. This is all just a huge, massive grift.

I wouldn't care if there was somewhere I could go and just forget about Gym beneath the rubble when this all comes crashing down as, inevitably, it will sooner than later. But there is nowhere to go.

[Dukasaur]

So you think that would be worse than Iran-Contra?

[saxitoxin]

So you think that would be worse than Iran-Contra?

In Iran-Contra you had people deluded into breaking the law because they thought what they were doing was for the good of the country. And there was a legal recourse when warning lights started flashing that prompted an investigation resulting in 13 criminal indictments.

FTX is about nothing but some people lining their pockets and others keeping their grip on power. And there is zero recourse. All independent investigatory and accountability mechanisms have been disassembled. There isn't even unofficial systems of accountability left; a journalist would never be able to publish on this, as glaringly obvious as it is, for fear of being arrested or denounced as an enemy of democracy and/or a Russian sympathizer and de-platformed.

This is just blatant corruption that doesn't even try to hide because it knows it has absolutely nothing to fear. If anyone gets out of line they are immediately crushed, delegitimized, and erased from public memory with the full power of the integrated Party-Corporate state.

This is probably what it was like in Prague in 1947. Gonna be a long 50 years.

[saxitoxin]

So, anyway, no this is not comparable to Iran-Contra. This is comparable to Bush's war on Iraq where millions of Iraqis and thousands of Americans were killed to cover for billions that went missing into the books of Halliburton at the same time Dick Cheney's stock options ballooned 4,000% in value and many of whose directors subsequently donated to buy his daughter's congressional seat.

That's what this is like, except they learned it's easier to win elections if you throw Slavic-speaking Europeans into the woodchipper rather than the children of your own peasants.

[mookiemcgee]

It's an established fact that his only source of income was FTX.

This is actually not true, he owns/owned 9% of Robinhood. His donations also came from declared income, so it was take home from running a business (and it was a legitimate business at the time, and he'd already paid federal income tax on it.

I wonder if anyone from Enron donated to politicians? That's a far closer comparison to FTX than Iran Contra.

The links to Ukraine are unique though, the idea the Treasury 'laundered' their gifts to Ukraine through crypto/ftx exchange rather than dropping pallets of cash on Kiev is def something new and crazy. This part of the story will probably be one to follow.

[saxitoxin]

In today's Bloomberg New Economy Forum, Citadel CEO Ken Griffin commented briefly on FTX. I ripped and uploaded the applicable part:

https://tempclip.com/en/w60uE6Th41UrZ2s/watch

"On the balance sheet of FTX is a line called 'TRUMP LOSE.' And Sam was the second biggest donor to Democratic candidates. Those are really, really ugly facts when you see a fraud of this ... this magnitude having played out and you find that there were no regulators there. That's a really, really tough ... a really tough story."

It's like Ken is reading saxi's posts on CC. (Is mookiemcgee Ken Griffin? It's possible.)

The only solace I take is in the hope that most of FTX's customers who have lost their money were also Democratic supporters. That's good for two reasons: (a) they lost some money, (b) more importantly, due to FinCEN's KYC regulations, not only did they lose a few shekels but their passport scans and other PII details are probably now in the hands of Unit 26165.

[saxitoxin]

Cointelegraph is reporting Democratic megadonor / FTX fraudster Sam Bankman-Fried is under police supervision in Nassau after he tried to flee to the Middle East.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/sam-bank ... e-to-dubai

Cointelegraph kinda misses the point here, though. They say Dubai has an extradition treaty with the U.S. Like Sam doesn't know how to use Google? Dubai is where he was going to change planes to Riyadh. Every country that's been pissed on by the U.S. in the last two years wants that kid.

[mookiemcgee]

In today's Bloomberg New Economy Forum, Citadel CEO Ken Griffin commented briefly on FTX. I ripped and uploaded the applicable part:

https://tempclip.com/en/w60uE6Th41UrZ2s/watch

"On the balance sheet of FTX is a line called 'TRUMP LOSE.' And Sam was the second biggest donor to Democratic candidates. Those are really, really ugly facts when you see a fraud of this ... this magnitude having played out and you find that there were no regulators there. That's a really, really tough ... a really tough story."

It's like Ken is reading saxi's posts on CC. (Is mookiemcgee Ken Griffin? It's possible.)

The only solace I take is in the hope that most of FTX's customers who have lost their money were also Democratic supporters. That's good for two reasons: (a) they lost some money, (b) more importantly, due to FinCEN's KYC regulations, not only did they lose a few shekels but their passport scans and other PII details are probably now in the hands of Unit 26165.

You mean Ken Griffin who was a larger political donor this cycle than Sam B? Ken Griffin the single handed reason people are losing faith in the stock market ability to function, because of his large scale backing of PFOF with citadel and robinhood(pay for order flow)??? Ken Griffin who LIED UNDER OATH TO CONGRESS IN THE GAMESTOP HEARINGS. YOU DARE LABEL ME AS THIS MAN!?!?!?!?

[saxitoxin]

In today's Bloomberg New Economy Forum, Citadel CEO Ken Griffin commented briefly on FTX. I ripped and uploaded the applicable part:

https://tempclip.com/en/w60uE6Th41UrZ2s/watch

"On the balance sheet of FTX is a line called 'TRUMP LOSE.' And Sam was the second biggest donor to Democratic candidates. Those are really, really ugly facts when you see a fraud of this ... this magnitude having played out and you find that there were no regulators there. That's a really, really tough ... a really tough story."

It's like Ken is reading saxi's posts on CC. (Is mookiemcgee Ken Griffin? It's possible.)

The only solace I take is in the hope that most of FTX's customers who have lost their money were also Democratic supporters. That's good for two reasons: (a) they lost some money, (b) more importantly, due to FinCEN's KYC regulations, not only did they lose a few shekels but their passport scans and other PII details are probably now in the hands of Unit 26165.

You mean Ken Griffin who was a larger political donor this cycle than Sam B?

But Ken used his own money, legally. Sam used other people's money, illegally.

[saxitoxin]

Unfortunately, Ken's largesse wasn't enough this time around. The Democrats and their big business masters - as usual - purchased the best democracy money can buy. The Democrats gave the mega-corporations anti-worker/corporate-friendly policies and got millions of dollars, outspending Republicans 3:1 and still only got 46% of the vote. Imagine if we lived in a country with campaign finance equity where big business couldn't buy politicians. There would be no Democratic Party.

Campaign Spending in Swing States

Arizona:
Kelly (D): $73M
Masters (R): $9M

Nevada:
Cortez-Masto (D): $46M
Laxalt (R): $12M

New Hampshire
Hassen (R): $36M
Bolduc (D): $2M

Pennsylvania
Fetterman (D): $52M
Oz (R): $37M

Georgia
Warnock (D): $75M
Walker (R): $32M

[GaryDenton]

Saxi and the others never learn but accept all the illogical unverified gossip that swirls out and they contribute to the garbage spread.

Try legitimate info sources instead of the lies and BS that spring from the far-Right gossipers and cranks.

No connection between money going to Ukraine and it coming back to the Democratic Party through FTX.

Yes, FTX collapsed, like all the cryptos it was a house of dubious cards waiting to collapse. Everything else the freaks on the Right have repeated seems more foaming fanatics trying to spin to another reason that America largely rejected their plans for the US on to something else.

Here is some real news. FTX donated millions to both sides - $38 to D, $20 to R.
It was really brought down by another crypto player who got mad at what Sam Bankman-Fried said about him and his crpto company and what he might be trying to do with connections in DC.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/15/234 ... washington

[mookiemcgee]

Unfortunately, Ken's largesse wasn't enough this time around. The Democrats and their big business masters - as usual - purchased the best democracy money can buy. The Democrats gave the mega-corporations anti-worker/corporate-friendly policies and got millions of dollars, outspending Republicans 3:1 and still only got 46% of the vote. Imagine if we lived in a country with campaign finance equity where big business couldn't buy politicians. There would be no Democratic Party.

So what your saying is Trump bled republican donors dry paying for his legal fees, and they were too broke to donate more to actually get people elected.

Sounds like a real problem for the republican party, maybe they shouldn't have gone all in for a pussy grabbing grifter that rug pulled their whole parties revenue streams.

[saxitoxin]

Saxi and the others never learn but accept all the illogical unverified gossip that swirls out and they contribute to the garbage spread.

Try legitimate info sources instead of the lies and BS that spring from the far-Right gossipers and cranks.

No connection between money going to Ukraine and it coming back to the Democratic Party through FTX.

Yes, FTX collapsed, like all the cryptos it was a house of dubious cards waiting to collapse. Everything else the freaks on the Right have repeated seems more foaming fanatics trying to spin to another reason that America largely rejected their plans for the US on to something else.

Here is some real news. FTX donated millions to both sides - $38 to D, $20 to R.
It was really brought down by another crypto player who got mad at what Sam Bankman-Fried said about him and his crpto company and what he might be trying to do with connections in DC.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/15/234 ... washington

This was a long, angry screed that didn't actually provide anything that objectively disputed what I said. Not a single piece of evidence, just angry fist waving. Jim already tried that one page ago.

[saxitoxin]

America largely rejected their plans for the US on to something else

After years of shaking their fists and howling at the moon about the sanctity of the popular vote, it looks like the flips are about to flop. In a few months the Democrats will be screaming about how we must preserve and defend the Electoral College.

[saxitoxin]

2024 is looking up for the GOP big time ---

We're now on the verge of WWIII over a village in Poland no one has ever heard of so should be able to anticipate roughly 20-30 million American fatalities from a limited global strike option involving roughly 50 MIRV'ed out RS-28 Sarmats hitting the CONUS. Assuming 2/3 of the dead were registered voters, and a majority are in urban centers, this should disproportionately impact Democrats and thin their voting rolls out a bit. We got 52% of the popular vote in 2022, could easily get 55-56% in 2024.

[jimboston]

America largely rejected their plans for the US on to something else

After years of shaking their fists and howling at the moon about the sanctity of the popular vote, it looks like the flips are about to flop. In a few months the Democrats will be screaming about how we must preserve and defend the Electoral College.

for what offices…

These national numbers mean nothing.

[saxitoxin]

America largely rejected their plans for the US on to something else

After years of shaking their fists and howling at the moon about the sanctity of the popular vote, it looks like the flips are about to flop. In a few months the Democrats will be screaming about how we must preserve and defend the Electoral College.

for what offices…

These national numbers mean nothing.

It's the aggregate vote for the House of Representatives. ---> https://www.cookpolitical.com/charts/ho ... acker/2022

[saxitoxin]

Hopeful news (In sha'Allah). The Democrats ran a bunch of old white men against the Muslim candidates Republicans ran and, in many cases (e.g. Oz), used the messaging of fear and racism to defeat the Muslim GOP candidates with their old white professional politicians.

One of the most horrific examples was Abraham Hamadeh - a Muslim son of Syrian immigrants, an experienced attorney, and an Army Reserve soldier - whom Democrat whisper campaigns claimed was a "sleeper cell terrorist" and a "Sharia practitioner" --- without a single note from the media. But now Hamadeh is just a few hundred votes away from winning the election for Attorney-General of Arizona. It's too soon to tell but I'm hopeful that, at least in this case, the best candidate won over a particularly odious form of Rat fearmongering designed to protect their billionaire Big Business backers in Silicon Valley.