Ukraine unbroken two years into Putin's War

[saxitoxin]

Ukraine sucks.

[Dukasaur]

Putin Will Come to 'Unpleasant End' in One of Two Ways: Former MI6 Head

The former head of the United Kingdom's foreign intelligence service predicted that Vladimir Putin's reign over Russia will either end because of his health or the intervention of another Russian group.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-will-come-to-unpleasant-end-in-one-of-two-ways-former-mi6-head/ar-AA10z4mN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=14c75a218b3349f1bedcb68d9718ee58

Key word here is "former". The f*ck does he know of today's situation?

The MI6 killed Rasputin and it took almost 100 years before the truth was known. The British know a lot more about Russia than anyone else.

[jusplay4fun]

Do not underestimate the role of spies and "intelligence"

[jusplay4fun]

Putin Will Come to 'Unpleasant End' in One of Two Ways: Former MI6 Head

The former head of the United Kingdom's foreign intelligence service predicted that Vladimir Putin's reign over Russia will either end because of his health or the intervention of another Russian group.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-will-come-to-unpleasant-end-in-one-of-two-ways-former-mi6-head/ar-AA10z4mN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=14c75a218b3349f1bedcb68d9718ee58

Key word here is "former". The f*ck does he know of today's situation?

are we talking the former as in the very previous one? or the former one from 20 years ago? that too makes a difference.

20 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dearlove

Sir Richard Billing Dearlove KCMG OBE (born 23 January 1945) was head of the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), a role known informally as "C",[1] from 1999 until 6 May 2004.

Sorry JP, you LOSE.

Do not underestimate the role of military "intelligence" and spies.

4. Military Intelligence
“All fighting depends on misdirection.” – Sun Tzu

First, know the enemy and know their strategy. Then spread misleading information to confuse them. Sun Tzu devotes part of his book to surveillance and talks about five kinds of operators used to trick the enemy and gather precise data so as to outwit them. This is called “foresight,” and involves gathering data about the enemy’s plans ahead of time, and spreading disinformation behind enemy lines – activities which are fundamentally the same today. Each operator was used for a different type of intelligence and would gather data in a different way.

I would say Sun Tzu knows more about military intelligence and spies than Corporal 1st Class Maxleod. The same can be said of Sir Richard Billing Dearlove knowing more that the cpl. And, as I already said, the "game" is not over, yet.

Sun Tzu was a Chinese general, military strategist, author, and thinker who lived during the Eastern Zhou period of ancient China. Sun Tzu is generally credited as being the author of The Art of War, a compelling military treatise that has greatly influenced Western and East Asian military theory. His work covers subjects such as tactics, strategy, delay, the utilization of government agents, the creation and maintenance of alliances, the employment of double agents, and when to admit defeat. In short, it covers the very art of war itself.

The Art of War is acknowledged as a perfect work on methodology and has been consulted by commanders and scholars since it was first published and translated. Though the text refers to battle tactics in ancient China, they are still relevant today.

[Maxleod]

4. Military Intelligence
“All fighting depends on misdirection.” – Sun Tzu

First, know the enemy and know their strategy. Then spread misleading information to confuse them. Sun Tzu devotes part of his book to surveillance and talks about five kinds of operators used to trick the enemy and gather precise data so as to outwit them. This is called “foresight,” and involves gathering data about the enemy’s plans ahead of time, and spreading disinformation behind enemy lines – activities which are fundamentally the same today. Each operator was used for a different type of intelligence and would gather data in a different way.

I would say Sun Tzu knows more about military intelligence and spies than Corporal 1st Class Maxleod. The same can be said of Sir Richard Billing Dearlove knowing more that the cpl. And, as I already said, the "game" is not over, yet.

It didn't occur to you that maybe the rumors regarding Putin's health, or a coup in Russia, could be "misleading information"? God you're so stupid. All I have to do to prove you wrong is quote you. Dumbass. And you claim you have a Phd in physics? Sorry, I find that hard to believe

[jusplay4fun]

4. Military Intelligence
“All fighting depends on misdirection.” – Sun Tzu

First, know the enemy and know their strategy. Then spread misleading information to confuse them. Sun Tzu devotes part of his book to surveillance and talks about five kinds of operators used to trick the enemy and gather precise data so as to outwit them. This is called “foresight,” and involves gathering data about the enemy’s plans ahead of time, and spreading disinformation behind enemy lines – activities which are fundamentally the same today. Each operator was used for a different type of intelligence and would gather data in a different way.

I would say Sun Tzu knows more about military intelligence and spies than Corporal 1st Class Maxleod. The same can be said of Sir Richard Billing Dearlove knowing more that the cpl. And, as I already said, the "game" is not over, yet.

It didn't occur to you that maybe the rumors regarding Putin's health, or a coup in Russia, could be "misleading information"?
Of course, I called it speculation ("spreading disinformation"). I quoted Sun Tzu on a such a matter. Or did you ignore ALL that?

God you're so stupid. All I have to do to prove you wrong is quote you. Dumbass.
You are wrong. 'nuff said.

And you claim you have a Phd in physics? Sorry, I find that hard to believe

I never said that; you are wrong again. 'nuff said.

btw: it's a PhD, not Phd. Who claims who is a dumbass?

[jusplay4fun]

4. Military Intelligence
“All fighting depends on misdirection.” – Sun Tzu

First, know the enemy and know their strategy. Then spread misleading information to confuse them. Sun Tzu devotes part of his book to surveillance and talks about five kinds of operators used to trick the enemy and gather precise data so as to outwit them. This is called “foresight,” and involves gathering data about the enemy’s plans ahead of time, and spreading disinformation behind enemy lines – activities which are fundamentally the same today. Each operator was used for a different type of intelligence and would gather data in a different way.

I would say Sun Tzu knows more about military intelligence and spies than Corporal 1st Class Maxleod. The same can be said of Sir Richard Billing Dearlove knowing more that the cpl. And, as I already said, the "game" is not over, yet.

It didn't occur to you that maybe the rumors regarding Putin's health, or a coup in Russia, could be "misleading information"?
Of course, I called it speculation ("spreading disinformation"). I quoted Sun Tzu on such a matter. Or did you ignore ALL that?

God you're so stupid. All I have to do to prove you wrong is quote you. Dumbass.
You are wrong. I quote myself quoting Sun Tzu and prove you wrong. I prove you're the dumbass, unlike your mere speculation.

And you claim you have a Phd in physics? Sorry, I find that hard to believe

I never said that; you are wrong again. 'nuff said.

btw: it's a PhD, not Phd. Who claims who is a dumbass?

and:

Location:DARDIS (Drunkness.....

What do you claim, on your own profile? So you are Dumb and a Drunk?
Nice Double DD's. Want to make it a triple with Delirium tremors?

[jusplay4fun]

"Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster." ----Sun Tzu

[bigtoughralf]

Another Western company replaced by a Russian one at the drop of a hat:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62605417

Congrats to McDonald's and Starbucks for the strong stance they have taken against Russia, that has resulted in burgers and coffee continuing to be just as available to Russians but no longer under an American brand name!!!!

[saxitoxin]

It didn't occur to you that maybe the rumors regarding Putin's health, or a coup in Russia, could be "misleading information"? God you're so stupid.

[saxitoxin]

Just in the last month ...

June 15, 2022: JP4F posts Western disinformation that Putin is dying of stomach cancer: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237779&p=5251491&hilit=putin+cancer#p5251491

July 31, 2022: JP4F doesn't bother posting Western disinformation. At this point he's internalized and repeats it himself: "and pukin' putin, dying of (likely) monkey pox (or cancer or Parkinson's)" before then sourcing another Western disinformation bureau that alleges he has liver cancer.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237779&p=5255316&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255316

July 31: 2022: JP4F again declares "Biden does not have cancer (now) but putin does."
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=238246&p=5255318&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255318

July 31, 2022: JP4F claims Putin has Monkeypox.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=238246&p=5255342&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255342

According to the people who feed stuff into JP4F's brain, Vladimir Putin simultaneously has stomach cancer, liver cancer, Parkinson's disease, Monkeypox, and Alzheimer's. In JP4F's world Putin is the most disease-infected man in the world and has been 48 hours away from death for the last 20 years. JP4F is literally Senator Johnny Iselin ---

[jusplay4fun]

Just in the last month ...

June 15, 2022: JP4F posts Western disinformation that Putin is dying of stomach cancer: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237779&p=5251491&hilit=putin+cancer#p5251491

July 31, 2022: JP4F doesn't bother posting Western disinformation. At this point he's internalized and repeats it himself: "and pukin' putin, dying of (likely) monkey pox (or cancer or Parkinson's)" before then sourcing another Western disinformation bureau that alleges he has liver cancer.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237779&p=5255316&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255316

July 31: 2022: JP4F again declares "Biden does not have cancer (now) but putin does."
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=238246&p=5255318&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255318

July 31, 2022: JP4F claims Putin has Monkeypox.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=238246&p=5255342&hilit=putin+cancer#p5255342

According to the people who feed stuff into JP4F's brain, Vladimir Putin simultaneously has stomach cancer, liver cancer, Parkinson's disease, Monkeypox, and Alzheimer's. In JP4F's world Putin is the most disease-infected man in the world and has been 48 hours away from death for the last 20 years. JP4F is literally Senator Johnny Iselin ---

NO, AGAIN saxi overstates his case AND missed my point. And NO, not ALL at once, BUT likely AT LEAST ONE of those. One of those explains some his apparent odd behavior IF he were actually Healthy man.

btw: the monkeypox was sarcasm, unless you, saxi, gave it to putin.

[saxitoxin]

And NO, not ALL at once, BUT likely AT LEAST ONE of those.

[jusplay4fun]

And NO, not ALL at once, BUT likely AT LEAST ONE of those.

straws? The verdict and the jury is still OUT. You, if anyone, saxi, should KNOW that "minor" factoid.

[saxitoxin]

BREAKING NEWS

Minutes ago there was an assassination attempt in Moscow against Aleksander Dugin via car bombing. They targeted the wrong vehicle and ended up killing Dugin's 14 year-old daughter. I read Dugin's book The Fourth Political Theory and it was brilliant. It's mostly banned in the U.S. (Amazon refuses to stock it but you can get it via third-party seller from B&N.).

Chances Zelenskyy will be alive this time next week? Maybe 3/10. We may be a week or two away from a full scale nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia after this.

[ConfederateSS]

-------------BETTER BREAKING NEWS........
--------------The U.S. Congress , both Republican and Democrat...The Swamp...They keep sending money to the Ukraine.....Just about a Billion a day....But the Ukraine is only receiving 30% of all money and weapons....Where is the rest,70% of money and weapons going???....There is Dark Global Money, or Global elites... Moving shit around... Laundring money....The Washington Swamp tops the list...
------------ Biden never wanted to help the Ukraine anyway...After the November, mid term election...Watch the USA cut and run from The Ukraine and let Russia have half...Their side of the River, cutting the Ukraine in half...As Russia Turns East...to Support, China's Invasion of Taiwan....I would guess , when the tides are right....In late spring...
------------- Damn these Globalist Elites....Or Commie Pinkos...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

#1 of 3; here is more bad news for Russia and putin, who is likely dying of one of several POSSIBLE illnesses. It is possible that putin will be dead before he sees victory in Ukraine.

Ukraine conflict is at an "operational standstill" and Russia faces munitions shortages, Western officials say

The conflict in Ukraine is near an operational standstill, with neither side able to generate sufficient ground combat capability to influence the course of the war, according to Western officials.

At a briefing on Friday, the officials said both sides were having manpower issues, with nearly six months of conflict bringing serious attrition of their forces. Those manpower problems are a contributing factor to the strategic deadlock, they said.

Speaking about the pace of the Russian offensive in the Donbas, the officials said: "There was a real high point. We aren't at that high point any more; the tempo has slowed down."
The officials said Russia was having a "terrible time" in trying to reconstitute its forces — for example, by merging battalion tactical groups.

They also said that a "looming issue" for Russia is an increasingly acute shortage of stocks, even of basic munitions, with evidence that older munitions are being taken out of storage.

"Ultimately, that will impair the Russians' ability to launch offensives," they said.

#2

Western officials say Russian Black Sea fleet is in defensive posture after setbacks, including Crimea attack
From CNN's Tim Lister

Western officials said that the Russian Black Sea fleet had gone into a defensive posture after a series of setbacks. They said that at least half of the Black Sea Fleet's naval aviation arm had been taken out of action in the attack on Saki air base in Crimea last week.

#3

US is monitoring Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant situation "very, very closely," according to defense official
From CNN's Oren Liebermann and Ellie Kaufman

As the US government closely watches the situation at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine, a senior US defense official says Russia has shown a “complete disregard” for the security of Ukraine’s nuclear facilities and that its actions around the plant now are “the height of irresponsibility.”

"This is a situation that the US government across the board and the national security community is watching very, very closely. We are very concerned about military operations at or near any of Ukraine’s nuclear power facilities and very concerned about any reports of damage to specifically Zaporizhzhia power lines," the official said, speaking to reporters in a news briefing on Friday.

"We’ve been very clear that fighting near a nuclear power plant is dangerous, is irresponsible and we want the fighters and Russia to operate with extreme caution and conduct no actions that would result in a potential radiological release," the official said.
"We see Russia's current actions in and around the plant as really the height of irresponsibility," the official added.

The US expects Russia to return full control of the plant to Ukraine and to comply with International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards, as well as provide access to the plant, added the official.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-19-22/index.html

[saxitoxin]

more bad news for Russia and putin, who is likely dying

Annnnyway, back in reality ...

It appears the Uke front is buckling. The Ukes are urgently evacuating nearly 1 MILLION people from the east; Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk is calling it “the biggest movement of people in the history of the independent Ukrainian state.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/biggest ... ussia-war/

Basically the entire Russian plan was contained in a Russian Army choir novelty song from 13 years ago ... and it's all working precisely! The only thing from the song that hasn't happened yet is an air raid against the Eurovision finals. Россия навсегда!

[mookiemcgee]

Ukraine sucks.

Russia sucks... ASS

[jusplay4fun]

If your home is destroyed and your cities are being bombarded by indiscriminate artillery shelling, would you stay and improve your chances of dying randomly and unexpectedly? Or flee to a safer area? And what saxi do?

Oh, of course, saxi would stay in his basement with his PAL ralph. Perhaps saxi digs a deeper hole to be safer, too?

[saxitoxin]

Leo is doing his part to help Ukraine.

Click image to enlarge.

[jusplay4fun]

NOW that is REAL news about Ukraine, even IF it is only a RUMOR.

In the meantime, people fight and many die, even civilians, including women and children.

What happened last week
Aug. 29: Ukraine launched a counteroffensive in southern areas captured by Russian forces early in the war.

Aug. 30: Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev died at 91. An interpreter who worked with him later told Reuters that Gorbachev had been "shocked and bewildered" by the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Putin didn't attend the Sept. 3 burial ceremony, and the Kremlin gave it only limited elements of a state funeral.

UNESCO said it supports Ukraine's bid to list Odesa as a World Heritage site.

Aug. 31: EU countries agreed to suspend visas for Russians but came short of an outright entry ban.

Sept. 1: International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors visited the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station in southern Ukraine, after a delay and attacks en route to the Russian-occupied plant.

(...)

Sept. 2: President Biden asked Congress to approve $11.7 billion for Ukraine, including $7.2 for military-related costs and $4.5 billion for direct economic support.

Sept. 3: The embattled Zaporizhzhia nuclear station was once again knocked off its last external power line but was still able to run electricity through a reserve line. Russia and Ukraine have blamed each other for shelling in the area.

Russian shelling hit Ukraine's Kharkiv, in the northeast, and Mykolaiv, in the south.

Sept. 4: John Sullivan left his post as U.S. ambassador to Russia and will retire from public service, the U.S. Embassy in Moscow said. He was appointed in December 2019 by then-President Donald Trump and stayed on through a tumultuous time. Elizabeth Rood becomes the embassy's charge d'affaires until Sullivan's successor arrives.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/05/1119926980/russia-ukraine-war-a-weekly-recap-and-look-ahead-sept-5

[bigtoughralf]

Leo is doing his part to help Ukraine.

Click image to enlarge.

Whereas even with a bunch of desperate refugees pouring into the country you still can't get any.

[saxitoxin]

Whereas even with a bunch of desperate refugees pouring into the country you still can't get any.

can too