Cleared Multi abuse [ka]

[Canag0d]

Diabloww2, tu mama calata, cachudocorazon and possibly dollarsnosense



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis



Game number(s):

20310967


Comments:

Just look at these 4 players records it’s blatantly obvious. They are being used to prop up dollarsnosense (that’s the real account).

So obvious....

[iAmCaffeine]

i agree. hang him!

[ZaBeast]

So the one you're accusing to be the main account is "possibly" a multi?

Game 20310967

[Canag0d]

I don’t know who owns the accounts but clearly the three “fake accounts” are obvious.

But obviously they are feeding someone’s main account and upon review I believe it to be DNS (dollarsnosense).

I of course may be wrong. But clearly these three accounts are feeding SOMEONE

[king achilles]

As far as being multis with one another is concerned, they are cleared. We'll be needing a lot more to further prove if they are secretly allied with one another.

[Canag0d]

Well I can see diablow and tu mama for instance have played together in well over 50% of each other’s games, possibly even much higher. I don’t have the ability to check ip’s so I don’t know but I’m sure you guys can on the site here.

I guess I don’t have the time or patience to go through and check in deep detail. But there is something going on with this group.

Thanks for investigating tho!

[Elwood Blues]

"As far as being multis with one another is concerned, they are cleared. We'll be needing a lot more to further prove if they are secretly allied with one another."

So in the interests of candor I recently accused a player of suiciding and the status is "noted" and the player warned. I only accused one player but mentioned that I had some suspicions regarding Tu Mama Calata and asked that the mods look into whether or not there was private communication between the two regarding the game (there probably wasn't, the player who later suicided into me throwing the game to T_M_C had previously asked the latter for a truce in chat and while the latter did not respond there was relatively little fighting between the two...but as I said before it could very well have been play style) and there was no specific response to that request.

In any case...

Dollarsnosense has won all four of their 5 and 6 player games that involve both diabloWW2 and Tu Mama Calata (100%)

Dollarsnosense has won three of four 5 and 6 player games that involve diabloWW2 (75%)

Dollarsnosense has won 11 of 15 overwhelmingly 5 and 6 player games played with Tu Mama Calata. (73.33%)

It should be noted that these represent an extremely small fraction of the 40k+ games Dollarsnosense has played. But it is a quite noteworthy recent trend.

Searching Dollarsnosense completed single player games involving 5 and 6 sides shows they've won ten of the most recent twenty (50%) and a lot of those are games involving one of the other two aformentioned players (7 of their 10 wins included one or both but only 2 of 10 losses).

Once you get past 20 and stop seeing the other names the win percentage drops substantially. So for example if I work my way up from the bottom looking at Dollarsnosense's most recent 100, single player games involving 5 or 6 sides I see that they won four out of twenty (20%).

I'm a bit of a noob. But to me it seems suspicious.

[t4mcr53s2]

sounds possible also that there's a bunch of novices playing together and DNS is joining all their available games … not accusing , but another explanation that comes to mind

[Evil Semp]

"As far as being multis with one another is concerned, they are cleared. We'll be needing a lot more to further prove if they are secretly allied with one another."

So in the interests of candor I recently accused a player of suiciding and the status is "noted" and the player warned. I only accused one player but mentioned that I had some suspicions regarding Tu Mama Calata and asked that the mods look into whether or not there was private communication between the two regarding the game (there probably wasn't, the player who later suicided into me throwing the game to T_M_C had previously asked the latter for a truce in chat and while the latter did not respond there was relatively little fighting between the two...but as I said before it could very well have been play style) and there was no specific response to that request.

In any case...

Dollarsnosense has won all four of their 5 and 6 player games that involve both diabloWW2 and Tu Mama Calata (100%)

Dollarsnosense has won three of four 5 and 6 player games that involve diabloWW2 (75%)

Dollarsnosense has won 11 of 15 overwhelmingly 5 and 6 player games played with Tu Mama Calata. (73.33%)

It should be noted that these represent an extremely small fraction of the 40k+ games Dollarsnosense has played. But it is a quite noteworthy recent trend.

Searching Dollarsnosense completed single player games involving 5 and 6 sides shows they've won ten of the most recent twenty (50%) and a lot of those are games involving one of the other two aformentioned players (7 of their 10 wins included one or both but only 2 of 10 losses).

Once you get past 20 and stop seeing the other names the win percentage drops substantially. So for example if I work my way up from the bottom looking at Dollarsnosense's most recent 100, single player games involving 5 or 6 sides I see that they won four out of twenty (20%).

I'm a bit of a noob. But to me it seems suspicious.

Checking to see if they are multi's is the easy part of this case. You are suggesting secret diplomacy, We have to read the game logs just like you to see if there is any secret diplomacy. Or the obvious wall posts. So if you think they are playing together review the logs and give us something to go on.

[Shannon Apple]

These are speed games.

There are a very small pool of players that actually play speeders these days. Isn't it natural then that they'd end up in several games together? Every game that DollarnoSense was in with TU MAMA CALATA, just as an example, was a speeder. If any of you play speeders, you'll see many of the same names popping up time and time again.

I'm willing to bet that there's no collusion going on here and that it's just a more experienced player beating some novices at speed games.