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[Pikanchion]

I would say that Ragian and you were both most instrumental with razors demise and ragian was most instrumental with dgz demize.

For one thing, I don't think that's entirely accurate, but even if it were: was I wrong to vote for Razorvich given the information we had at the time?

[jfm10]

STOP! CLAIMING! POWER! ROLES! You are giving scum a shopping list for tonight.

That was my intent when I did it.

[ZaBeast]

STOP! CLAIMING! POWER! ROLES! You are giving scum a shopping list for tonight.

That was my intent when I did it.

I don't really get your argument there. If you wanted to attract the night kill to you because you claimed a power role and you think it worked, why would you think only Ragian or Pika would have wanted to kill you? Also that doesn't explain why you thought you were VT at first.

I would say that Ragian and you were both most instrumental with razors demise and ragian was most instrumental with dgz demize.

That's not what I would base scumhunting on though. Did any of the arguments/votes against razor and/or dgz seemed disingenuous, opportunistic, or contradictory (scummy)? What makes you think scum played a key role in their demise? And if you want to base your vote on voting patterns and say Ragian is the scummiest on that front, why are you voting pika?

[Ragian]

Okay, I'll play. Let's say that you did what you did to attract a nightkill. First, you're assuming that scum targeted you. No one knows whether that's true or not. We will know post game. Second, you claim so that if scum didn't target you last night, you've made absolutely sure that they won't target you going forward. Your alleged power is now useless and scum have a bigger chance of hitting a valuable member of town N3. Your play so far D3 has been anti town. I won't vote while I'm on festival here, but I have you at the top of my naughty list right now.

[jfm10]

Okay, I'll play. Let's say that you did what you did to attract a nightkill. First, you're assuming that scum targeted you. No one knows whether that's true or not. We will know post game. Second, you claim so that if scum didn't target you last night, you've made absolutely sure that they won't target you going forward. Your alleged power is now useless and scum have a bigger chance of hitting a valuable member of town N3. Your play so far D3 has been anti town. I won't vote while I'm on festival here, but I have you at the top of my naughty list right now.

I am confident you do and i will vote unvote
vote Ragian

[jfm10]

STOP! CLAIMING! POWER! ROLES! You are giving scum a shopping list for tonight.

That was my intent when I did it.

I don't really get your argument there. If you wanted to attract the night kill to you because you claimed a power role and you think it worked, why would you think only Ragian or Pika would have wanted to kill you? Also that doesn't explain why you thought you were VT at first.

I would say that Ragian and you were both most instrumental with razors demise and ragian was most instrumental with dgz demize.

That's not what I would base scumhunting on though. Did any of the arguments/votes against razor and/or dgz seemed disingenuous, opportunistic, or contradictory (scummy)? What makes you think scum played a key role in their demise? And if you want to base your vote on voting patterns and say Ragian is the scummiest on that front, why are you voting pika?

I believe one or both are scum and honestly its so close to me I don't mind voting either of them.
no one else has really done anything thats got my intention.
I think the family is the VT,I thought I was as being family but realized the ability just made me townie.

[Pikanchion]

I think the family is the VT,I thought I was as being family but realized the ability just made me townie.

So you think there is a flavour linked Town sub-team (despite the mod having explicitly stated that flavour is not important), and also believe that you are a part of this VT-only sub-team (despite not being a VT)..?

wut

[jfm10]

NOTE: The store is irrelevant. This is a generic mafia game, all flavour is for fun only. Don't turn this into Into The Deep. Resume as normal

You come into the store with your entire family. You all start playing hide and seek through the store, running, laughing, and screaming as you go.

That is the first 2 sentences in my mail
The store is irrelevant but i honestly think the family exists.

[strike wolf]

Computer issues. Blargh. Don't think JFM is scum. Just misguided.

Please don't post role PMs. This is a big no no.

[blacky365]

i agree that i think jfm is misguided... but im getting so tired of seeing flavour based reasoning that im almost ready to policy lynch!

also, rage feels town to me.

[jfm10]

i agree that i think jfm is misguided... but im getting so tired of seeing flavour based reasoning that im almost ready to policy lynch!

also, rage feels town to me.

If Ragian is scum then you are my first choice for being his partner

[blacky365]

Sure... and what would be your reason?
(Try to avoid using flavour as a reason)

[jfm10]

Sure... and what would be your reason?
(Try to avoid using flavour as a reason)

For being thick.

[Skoffin]

Vote Count
8 alive, 5 needed to lynch.

Pikanchion ----
dakky21 -------
Ragian --------- JFM
strike wolf ----
JFM ------ dakky
blacky365 -----
Beast ---
Tobikera -------

[blacky365]

Sure... and what would be your reason?
(Try to avoid using flavour as a reason)

For being thick.

[Ragian]

That was actually quite funny. So, Pika is not my partner, then? Or are we three?

[jfm10]

That was actually quite funny. So, Pika is not my partner, then? Or are we three?

I can't see three scum, but if you are scum then I would put blackie ahead of Pika as your sidekick.

[dakky21]

While I was sure Pika is scum for a long time, this last post by jfm tells me otherwise. I remember Skoffin's tactics from Into The Deep, go mental and throw away your partner under the bus and then try to pull him before the bus hits.

My vote stays on JFM and I'm pretty sure JFM, Ragoo and blacky are partners.

Too many consequent posts worth nothing and accusing each other while saying nothing.

Rage won't vote him now but is on his top list, jfm votes rage and later confirms blacky is his next target after Ragoo.

[ZaBeast]

So you think jfm is telling the truth about Rage and blacky being scum because he's on their team and he intends to push for their lynch but convince people to not go through at the last minute?

[dakky21]

So you think jfm is telling the truth about Rage and blacky being scum because he's on their team and he intends to push for their lynch but convince people to not go through at the last minute?

I think Ragoo told jfm and blacky to make confusion and accuse each other since town is very "lost" last few games and by that steer the game in the way he wanted.

[ZaBeast]

I'll take that as a yes, then.
Remember how basically every jfm post in the Into the Deep game were one-liners though? I don't really see the chatter in this game differing from his meta. To me it seems to fit his playstyle rather than be a sign of him being scum.

[strike wolf]

I think town is falling into the JFM trap again. He acts erratic, draws attention to himself and then turns up town. People who played into the deep should at least be aware of this. Yet you all are going for it.

[dakky21]

I think town is falling into the JFM trap again. He acts erratic, draws attention to himself and then turns up town. People who played into the deep should at least be aware of this. Yet you all are going for it.

Wait.. what? You are saying town is falling into JFM trap? That makes you no town? Just saying... townie would say "we" but you said explicit "town" without yourself being in it. I'm lost here....

[strike wolf]

Because I'm not one of the ones falling.

[Ragian]

I love it when people say, "Then this and this will happen," in order to anticipate any possible outcome, so that if they're right, they can do their "I told you so" dance, but if they're wrong, they can say, "Well, people acted differently because I already stated what they would've done." I.e. if I'm wrong, I'm actually still right.

I'll maintain that jmf is the one playing the most antitown at this point (closely followed by dakky, but I'm still clinging to the fact that aage was gunning for dakky D1, which indicates town to me), but, as strike argues, I'm aware of the last game jmf played, so I'm wary of voting for him. Even if he omgussed me (or anticipated my vote by voting me or whatever you want to call it).

Fp'ed by strike.