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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Doc_Brown on Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:40 pm

Lindax wrote:First 5 rounds results and bracket updated:

Challonge

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This isn't a huge deal, I'm just trying to make sure I understand all the tie-breaker rules.
Shouldn't Atlantis be 6th behind S&M and TOFU based on the game difference tie-breaker?
1st and 2nd are clear based on score. TOP takes 3rd based on the 1st tie-breaker, S&M and TOFU are tied for 4th based on the first tie-breaker, and ATL comes in 6th.
S&M beats TOFU 2-1 in away set wins to take 4th place over TOFU based on the 5th tie-breaker (both have identical score and identical game difference, and they went 4-4 in both head-to-head matchups, which covers the first four tie-breakers).

Am I understanding this correctly?
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby shoop76 on Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:49 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:
Lindax wrote:First 5 rounds results and bracket updated:

Challonge

Lx


This isn't a huge deal, I'm just trying to make sure I understand all the tie-breaker rules.
Shouldn't Atlantis be 6th behind S&M and TOFU based on the game difference tie-breaker?
1st and 2nd are clear based on score. TOP takes 3rd based on the 1st tie-breaker, S&M and TOFU are tied for 4th based on the first tie-breaker, and ATL comes in 6th.
S&M beats TOFU 2-1 in away set wins to take 4th place over TOFU based on the 5th tie-breaker (both have identical score and identical game difference, and they went 4-4 in both head-to-head matchups, which covers the first four tie-breakers).

Am I understanding this correctly?


That's how I read it too, but can you leave please leave us 4th for now. Don't think many people were expecting us this high. Hopefully we can keep it up.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:09 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:
Lindax wrote:First 5 rounds results and bracket updated:

Challonge

Lx


This isn't a huge deal, I'm just trying to make sure I understand all the tie-breaker rules.
Shouldn't Atlantis be 6th behind S&M and TOFU based on the game difference tie-breaker?
1st and 2nd are clear based on score. TOP takes 3rd based on the 1st tie-breaker, S&M and TOFU are tied for 4th based on the first tie-breaker, and ATL comes in 6th.
S&M beats TOFU 2-1 in away set wins to take 4th place over TOFU based on the 5th tie-breaker (both have identical score and identical game difference, and they went 4-4 in both head-to-head matchups, which covers the first four tie-breakers).

Am I understanding this correctly?


I'm sure you're correct in what you say. However, not all matches have completely finished, so not all games are included yet. I guess that's why Challonge is doing what is does? And I don't think they take head-to-head matches into account.

When all is finished I will double-check everything and post the final outcome in the division threads. If I have time I will try and do it earlier. In the meantime I would say don't take the Challonge standings for granted.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby groovysmurf on Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:54 pm

FOED is requesting a 24 hour extension for our round 9 home games, please.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:28 am

Granted.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:24 pm

TOFU was granted a 24hr extension for their home games.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:30 am

I know there were some extensions and clan being late. This is the last round, lets get all games filled by 18:00hrs, CC Time, today, and avoid point deductions that can change the outcome of this tournament!

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby benga on Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:25 am

Lindax wrote:I know there were some extensions and clan being late. This is the last round, lets get all games filled by 18:00hrs, CC Time, today, and avoid point deductions that can change the outcome of this tournament!

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OSA would also like the 2nd warning to be erased since you are so forgiving to the other clans. We just don't like being treated differently.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:32 am

benga wrote:
Lindax wrote:I know there were some extensions and clan being late. This is the last round, lets get all games filled by 18:00hrs, CC Time, today, and avoid point deductions that can change the outcome of this tournament!

Thanks,

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OSA would also like the 2nd warning to be erased since you are so forgiving to the other clans. We just don't like being treated differently.


Which clan(s) were we forgiving to?

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby JPlo64 on Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:09 pm

benga wrote:
Lindax wrote:I know there were some extensions and clan being late. This is the last round, lets get all games filled by 18:00hrs, CC Time, today, and avoid point deductions that can change the outcome of this tournament!

Thanks,

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OSA would also like the 2nd warning to be erased since you are so forgiving to the other clans. We just don't like being treated differently.

Hey Benga,
I don't think you were treated differently... If you have an issue, please elaborate to us in detail.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Fewnix on Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:17 am

Don;t know how the other rounds are going but after 5 rounds, we have in the Premier Divison LOW 8th ,OSA 9th and AFOS 10th = posssible candidates for relegation to Second Division? , while in the second division A^ 1st, VDM second and LHDD third possible candidates for promoation to Premier Division?

Something like tha? :?:
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby elddir on Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:16 am

Results based on finished games:
Expect A^ and LHDD to get promoted, OSA and AFOS to get relegated with current results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing



Fewnix wrote:Don;t know how the other rounds are going but after 5 rounds, we have in the Premier Divison LOW 8th ,OSA 9th and AFOS 10th = posssible candidates for relegation to Second Division? , while in the second division A^ 1st, VDM second and LHDD third possible candidates for promoation to Premier Division?

Something like tha? :?:
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby rockfist on Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:37 pm

I don't think of OSA as a 2nd division clan. I think they will get it together.

LHDD is down in 2nd division because they took a year off.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby IcePack on Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:12 am

rockfist wrote:I don't think of OSA as a 2nd division clan. I think they will get it together.

LHDD is down in 2nd division because they took a year off.


I also dont "see" OSA as a 2nd Division Clan, unfortunately I think they will drop down there for a year.

Right now I'm projecting:

AFOS (projected 10 points)
OSA (projected 12 points)

As 100% demotions.

SOH & LOW are fighting for their lives in 7th & 8th respectively (potentially also tied with TOP), right now both will have equal points (projected 16 pts) and very close together for game count differential (right now I have projected LOW at -10, and SOH at -9...so SOH would stay in premier with a 1 game buffer currently). Still some games left to decide obviously, so this can shift a little bit. But lots of game results pouring in, and it won't change a lot. TOP isn't fighting for their lives really even though they are tied, because they have a +2 game difference right now, and still have potential to earn an extra 0-5 points while the others aren't expected to earn points).
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby shoop76 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:25 am

IcePack wrote:
rockfist wrote:I don't think of OSA as a 2nd division clan. I think they will get it together.

LHDD is down in 2nd division because they took a year off.


I also dont "see" OSA as a 2nd Division Clan, unfortunately I think they will drop down there for a year.

Right now I'm projecting:

AFOS (projected 10 points)
OSA (projected 12 points)

As 100% demotions.

SOH & LOW are fighting for their lives in 7th & 8th respectively (potentially also tied with TOP), right now both will have equal points (projected 16 pts) and very close together for game count differential (right now I have projected LOW at -10, and SOH at -9...so SOH would stay in premier with a 1 game buffer currently). Still some games left to decide obviously, so this can shift a little bit. But lots of game results pouring in, and it won't change a lot. TOP isn't fighting for their lives really even though they are tied, because they have a +2 game difference right now, and still have potential to earn an extra 0-5 points while the others aren't expected to earn points).


Did you count SOH´s 1 point deduction?
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby IcePack on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:45 am

shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:
rockfist wrote:I don't think of OSA as a 2nd division clan. I think they will get it together.

LHDD is down in 2nd division because they took a year off.


I also dont "see" OSA as a 2nd Division Clan, unfortunately I think they will drop down there for a year.

Right now I'm projecting:

AFOS (projected 10 points)
OSA (projected 12 points)

As 100% demotions.

SOH & LOW are fighting for their lives in 7th & 8th respectively (potentially also tied with TOP), right now both will have equal points (projected 16 pts) and very close together for game count differential (right now I have projected LOW at -10, and SOH at -9...so SOH would stay in premier with a 1 game buffer currently). Still some games left to decide obviously, so this can shift a little bit. But lots of game results pouring in, and it won't change a lot. TOP isn't fighting for their lives really even though they are tied, because they have a +2 game difference right now, and still have potential to earn an extra 0-5 points while the others aren't expected to earn points).


Did you count SOH´s 1 point deduction?


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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:38 pm

First 7 rounds results and bracket updated:

Challonge

Note that not all matches have finished.

The Challonge bracket does not take our tie-breaker rules into account, nor the point deductions from infractions.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Lindax on Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:13 pm

First 8 rounds results and bracket updated:

Challonge

Note that not all matches have finished.

The Challonge bracket does not take our tie-breaker rules into account, nor the point deductions from infractions.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby elddir on Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:15 pm

Almost done here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
by finished games, only a couple of undecided matches left:
TOP vs FOED is 3-4. final game: https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=18905633
TOFU vs FALL is 4-3. final game looks like a TOFU win: https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=18907976
TOP vs TOFU is 3-4. final game: https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=18791607
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby elddir on Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:17 pm

If TOFU wins both of those, I think it's a tie on pts. time to look at tie-breakers!
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby rockfist on Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:59 pm

We’d have to win one more away game vs Fallen to beat them 6-2, which we look good to do and would make us level on GD for the year, and the second tiebreaker is head to head, which we would win based off of. But alas the game vs. TOP does not look good for us so I think Fallen are ok.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby rockfist on Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:25 pm

Yup, Fallen wins CL. Congratulations to them.
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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:59 pm

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby Fewnix on Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:27 pm

How the mighty have fallen and the Fallen mighty.

CONGRATS to all, looked like a good war.

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Re: [CLX] Premier Division

Postby GoranZ on Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:41 pm

Thanks guys... it was interesting league, and we almost slipped at the end :lol:
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