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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (open 1 more day) 15(17?)/?

Postby torres44cm on Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:07 am

Spelunkers of Hell will gladly sign up

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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (open 1 more day) 15(17?)/?

Postby hiitsmestevie1 on Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:03 am

thank you. i believe our contacts will be
1. 4 U 2 NV
2. donovan THE DARK (or myself depending on when Don gets back from vacation)
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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (open untill Dec 31st) 10/?

Postby benga on Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:47 pm

One Step Ahead OSA

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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (open 1 more day) 15(17?)/?

Postby donche64 on Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:48 am

LHDD confirms its participation

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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (closed) 19 Clans

Postby Lindax on Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:34 am

Ok, sign-up is closed.

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Re: [CC9] Sign-up (closed) 18 Clans

Postby Lindax on Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Rudimentary bracket is posted on page 1: Bracket & Seeding

First round wars are:

GON vs RET

RGV vs ID

You're 6 week "planning/creating and filling games" period starts this Sunday, January 6, 2019.

The rest has a bye for round 1. Round 2 starts February 17, 2019, for those clans that already know who they are playing in round 2. Clans are urged to start earlier, as long as they let me know. To be fair to the other clans, the 6 Week Deadline will still be in effect if they do indeed start earlier.

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby elddir on Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:58 pm

maybe I'm daft, but I don't quite understand the bracketing numbering system.
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Caymanmew on Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:36 pm

For anyone confused, i quickly made this in paint.

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby rockfist on Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:58 pm

Caymanmew wrote:For anyone confused, i quickly made this in paint.

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Nice, that certainly does make it visually easier!
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Lindax on Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:12 am

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby elddir on Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:10 am

awesome. thanks! :)
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:00 pm

Will there be a prediction challonge? Interesting match ups. Going to be tough for first time FALL organizers but I look forward to checking this later in the and seeing itā€™s progress
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby rockfist on Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:37 pm

Ice am I to interpret that as you won't be playing?
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Lindax on Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:29 pm

rockfist wrote:Ice am I to interpret that as you won't be playing?


I think he is just not running this event for his clan. New MOW for FALL.

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Donelladan on Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:22 am

May I know how you dertermine which clan was first seed and which one was second seed ?
I am also curious of the repartition method of the 6 other seeded clans.

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Doc_Brown on Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:38 am

From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Lindax on Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:21 am

Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


What Doc said. The seeds where:

1.- TOFU
2.- LHDD
3.- S&M
4.- TOP
5.- OSA
6.- FOED
7.- FALL
8.- SOH

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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby itake on Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:37 pm

elddir wrote:maybe I'm daft, but I don't quite understand the bracketing numbering system.


Not maybe.
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby elddir on Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:15 pm

itake wrote:
elddir wrote:maybe I'm daft, but I don't quite understand the bracketing numbering system.


Not maybe.


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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby IcePack on Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:30 am

rockfist wrote:Ice am I to interpret that as you won't be playing?


That's correct
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby IcePack on Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:34 am

Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


I'm not sure this bolded part is correct, but I think at some point it was finalists had top two seeds, but if the finals had completed the winner was awarded #1, and loser #2 seed (regardless of rankings).
Could be wrong, and I haven't looked it up. This is just from memory
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Doc_Brown on Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:07 am

IcePack wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


I'm not sure this bolded part is correct, but I think at some point it was finalists had top two seeds, but if the finals had completed the winner was awarded #1, and loser #2 seed (regardless of rankings).
Could be wrong, and I haven't looked it up. This is just from memory


Early on, the bracket was seeded entirely from F400 rankings, regardless of who the finalists were (this was definitely the case through CC4, but I think changed for CC5). I think the ideal has been to give the winner the #1 seed, but the reality has been that we've never yet had a winner identified before setting up the brackets for the next competition.
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby shoop76 on Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:26 am

Doc_Brown wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


I'm not sure this bolded part is correct, but I think at some point it was finalists had top two seeds, but if the finals had completed the winner was awarded #1, and loser #2 seed (regardless of rankings).
Could be wrong, and I haven't looked it up. This is just from memory


Early on, the bracket was seeded entirely from F400 rankings, regardless of who the finalists were (this was definitely the case through CC4, but I think changed for CC5). I think the ideal has been to give the winner the #1 seed, but the reality has been that we've never yet had a winner identified before setting up the brackets for the next competition.


Am I sensing some fear in TOFU's first matchup?
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby Doc_Brown on Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:35 am

shoop76 wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


I'm not sure this bolded part is correct, but I think at some point it was finalists had top two seeds, but if the finals had completed the winner was awarded #1, and loser #2 seed (regardless of rankings).
Could be wrong, and I haven't looked it up. This is just from memory


Early on, the bracket was seeded entirely from F400 rankings, regardless of who the finalists were (this was definitely the case through CC4, but I think changed for CC5). I think the ideal has been to give the winner the #1 seed, but the reality has been that we've never yet had a winner identified before setting up the brackets for the next competition.


Am I sensing some fear in TOFU's first matchup?


I'm not sure I follow you here. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. To clarify, in all previous CC competitions, the finals have not been officially decided before seeding for the next CC competition has been generated.
That is a simple statement of fact that has nothing to do with my expectations about either our current war with LHDD or our upcoming war with ATL.
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Re: [CC9] Starting, with 18 Clans (Bracket posted)

Postby shoop76 on Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:39 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:From the description of the competition:
The finalists of CC8 will be the first 2 seeds, the other 6 will be based on the December D400 Clan Ranking. In case of byes, the higher seeds will get those. The rest of the bracket will be filled randomly.


So seeding is based on the December update of D400, except that CC8 finalists are guaranteed the top seeds. The top 8 seeded clans in the bracket match the most recent rankings. If your question is why TOFU is #1 and you're #2, the top two seeds have always been seeded relative to each other based on clan rankings.


I'm not sure this bolded part is correct, but I think at some point it was finalists had top two seeds, but if the finals had completed the winner was awarded #1, and loser #2 seed (regardless of rankings).
Could be wrong, and I haven't looked it up. This is just from memory


Early on, the bracket was seeded entirely from F400 rankings, regardless of who the finalists were (this was definitely the case through CC4, but I think changed for CC5). I think the ideal has been to give the winner the #1 seed, but the reality has been that we've never yet had a winner identified before setting up the brackets for the next competition.


Am I sensing some fear in TOFU's first matchup?


I'm not sure I follow you here. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. To clarify, in all previous CC competitions, the finals have not been officially decided before seeding for the next CC competition has been generated.
That is a simple statement of fact that has nothing to do with my expectations about either our current war with LHDD or our upcoming war with ATL.


Sorry it was a poor attempt at humor.
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