betiko wrote:joecoolfrog wrote:No need for all this bickering , admin have found the perfect solution ; After each Betiko victory this will appear ( skill won the game ) , after each defeat ( the dice screwed me ).
This should massage his fragile ego and prevent the tedious dice rants.....ribbit !
lol you still seem slow to catch my point. Once you reach the level of "good at this game" (at least on the map/setting you're playing) what matters the most is the luck factor anyone not admitting it is either clueless or just have the ego issues you're talking about.
I believe poker would be a game where there is much more skill involved than CC compared to the luck factor.
I could compare this more to formula 1 driving where the skill is the actual driver's skill and the luck is the car you're driving. A great driver in a shit car like fernando alonso on a mclaren can beat overrated drivers on good cars, but he can't beat good drivers on good cars. The car factor is probably 70% and the skill 30%.
What I agree with, because I know tofu from the inside is your capacity to never let go even when everything seems lost. But I thing anyone with a bit of experience knows that this works countless times in escalating games not really in no spoils trench past a certain point.
Anyways... bottom line, people with the real ego issues are the ones not accepting to admit that generally speaking the luck has been quite on their side, that the score is reflecting it, and that it's not 100% due to skill superiority. Hopefully I know that a bunch of tofu members know it and are admitting it, but some that are a bit new to this are making this facepalming discution a thing.
I'll quote from my previous diatribe, which covered your point.
"So the great player vs the good player, both win 25% on dice, lose 25% on dice... but of the remaining 50%, the great win 30% based on solid strategy, and win another 5-10% by knowing how and when to throw the dice to take advantage of luck... and they end up with 60-65% victory against very good opponents.
The good player looks at it and THINKS that it should have been a tie. They don't notice the great player outsmarting them to take 30% through normal strategy, and they put the remaining 5-10% losses down to pure luck... well was it luck? In reality it was the ability of the great player to manipulate the odds in their favour "
I put you in that category, because you think games which were won by skill, were won by luck and you can't see past it. USA 2.1 you were okay at the start, but made a catastrophic error that should have been fatal (far before the 7-1 thing). You didn't recognise your error, and I still don't think you know what that error was... then later on you get some bad dice and use that as the crutch to say that is the reason you lost. You would have lost anyway, we were significantly better.
I'm very happy to admit when the dice favoured me. I recently beat one of the top players in Tofu in a friendly(ish) game 4-1, and honestly, the dice just pounded them, they had no chance. I don't think I put a foot wrong, but it wouldn't have mattered if I had.
Fractured China vs LHDD also. I believe Tofu played it to an outstanding level. So did LHDD. Both teams deserved to win. You just don't deserve to lose when you play it that well. The chips fell on our side this time. That was fortunate.
I don't have an ego issue... I have a big ego, but it's not an issue... badum cha!!! Joking aside, I'm still improving, and in team games I don't have all the answers. Until you can go in to a team game, and always work out a better or equal move than all of your teammates, you have room to improve.
Do we deserve to be ahead 12-4 at the moment? I don't know what a fair reflection would be, but I do know that we deserve to be ahead.
In response to your challenge, the reality is I'm not going to play you, and I don't care if you think you would win. I don't have enough time to take on challenges left right and centre, and honestly only want to play people I would enjoy to play.
You don't fit that category, as you whine all the time, and I do get annoyed by it. Perhaps that's a weakness of mine, but I'll own that weakness for now.
If you reach the level of Don/Paengars (sorry anyone else in LHDD who is on that level too), I will play you, because your skill level would compel me to take that challenge. Let me know if you think you've made it.
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