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[Metsfanmax]

It made sense to jump on Mitch.

No it didn't. Nothing in mitch's post suggested even weakly that he had targeted Legion for a kill; it was a point manufactured by DDS. But I agree that it's hard to judge DDS on this if he's unfamiliar with mitch's play. It's dakky that I'm more suspicious of, he should know better than just to blindly buy into something like this.

[DirtyDishSoap]

It's really an odd playstyle, to me it felt like he made a mention to targeting legion.
But he role claimed so there's that.

[Metsfanmax]

Do you believe his role claim?

[Djfireside]

SORRY read my role wrong . I am Jack Ventura people detective ,(town cop) ,I investigate 1 person at night to find out out who is guilty or innocent, I chose legion just to make sure of his role, so we know he is town ,now we can concentrate on those who voted for him .

At least all their rambling somewhat ties together but I have a problem with this claim for a few reasons. One, the flavor of the character just seems off but that could just be me. The naming convention isn't what I expect but if they are telling the truth then we have to account for the fact that they are insane. That is the only way that character works in my mind.

Im not convinced on them yet unfortunately but I believe that we at least got all the info that we will get on this.

[dakky21]

It made sense to jump on Mitch.

No it didn't. Nothing in mitch's post suggested even weakly that he had targeted Legion for a kill; it was a point manufactured by DDS. But I agree that it's hard to judge DDS on this if he's unfamiliar with mitch's play. It's dakky that I'm more suspicious of, he should know better than just to blindly buy into something like this.

Can you quote where did I blindly buy his story? I didn't bandwagon and didn't even said I'll vote him... skimming too much? FOS.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Do you believe his role claim?

Im gonna have to unless someone wants to try and counter claim it.

[TimWoodbury]

@Legion what do you think of mitch more or less verifying your townsmenship and him choosing you to investigate overanyone else??

@Dakky so legion and mitch more or less confirm each other town (for the moment) where would you suggest we look next and why

[madmitch]

@ Legion sorry didn't mean to make you a target for scum, just didn't want you on the chopping block again. @ Tim why are you asking Dakky ? are you guys scum mates ? It does seem strange that you jumped on the wagon rather quick. To everyone at these time I am going along with Legion until we can prove who is town ?
.

[TimWoodbury]

mith i ask dakky because he was one of the 1st to say he was unsure about your crazyness and not to jump on the wagon.

i wouldnt really say i jumped on the wagon as i was the 2nd to vote you and one of the 1st to ask questions of you(looking back dds asked 1st and i asked 2nd) now if there was 2,3 others looking your way then i jumped id consider that bandwagon not what happened in this case

[Ragian]

It made sense to jump on Mitch.

No it didn't. Nothing in mitch's post suggested even weakly that he had targeted Legion for a kill; it was a point manufactured by DDS. But I agree that it's hard to judge DDS on this if he's unfamiliar with mitch's play. It's dakky that I'm more suspicious of, he should know better than just to blindly buy into something like this.

How nice of you to edit out where I mentioned that I was talking about people who aren't used to playing with mitch. And then you go say it yourself. Misrepresentation is scummy.

Did dakky vote for mitch?

[madmitch]

@ Tim I was talking about the wagon on Legion

[Metsfanmax]

It made sense to jump on Mitch.

No it didn't. Nothing in mitch's post suggested even weakly that he had targeted Legion for a kill; it was a point manufactured by DDS. But I agree that it's hard to judge DDS on this if he's unfamiliar with mitch's play. It's dakky that I'm more suspicious of, he should know better than just to blindly buy into something like this.

How nice of you to edit out where I mentioned that I was talking about people who aren't used to playing with mitch. And then you go say it yourself. Misrepresentation is scummy.

No, pay closer attention because I said something significantly different than you, and I am taking exception to the way you characterize it. I'm perfectly willing to call DDS out on it, that it didn't make sense even at the time with the knowledge he had. I'm just conceding that it's hard to read DDS's alignment because of it, because he doesn't know mitch well. There's no circumstance in which I agree that it made sense.

[TimWoodbury]

@ Tim I was talking about the wagon on Legion

in that case i jumped simply because its better to lynch someone then noone who else was i gonna vote for that had a chance to be lynched you salm???

[legionnare]

@ Tim I was talking about the wagon on Legion

in that case i jumped simply because its better to lynch someone then noone who else was i gonna vote for that had a chance to be lynched you salm???

This is exactly why some were advocating no lynch, jumping on a wagon simply to lynch someone is either/both poor play and/or scummy.

[legionnare]

@Legion what do you think of mitch more or less verifying your townsmenship and him choosing you to investigate overanyone else??

@Dakky so legion and mitch more or less confirm each other town (for the moment) where would you suggest we look next and why

I don't think either way of mitch verifying my townyness at the moment, if I just say "yeah I'm town" it doesn't really progress the discussion. As for him choosing to investigate me; that's fine, it's what I would do, investigate a person who I was unsure of their alignment to see if my reads were on track or not.

We haven't seen a counter-claim yet or any subtle moves to have mitch lynched, quiet the opposite, so am willing to believe his claim at the moment.

[legionnare]

@ Legion sorry didn't mean to make you a target for scum, just didn't want you on the chopping block again. @ Tim why are you asking Dakky ? are you guys scum mates ? It does seem strange that you jumped on the wagon rather quick. To everyone at these time I am going along with Legion until we can prove who is town ?
.

Don't worry about it mitch, you've unfortunately put yourself on the chopping block as well and with it being one of the more powerful roles it is doubly unfortunate.

[Metsfanmax]

@ Legion sorry didn't mean to make you a target for scum, just didn't want you on the chopping block again. @ Tim why are you asking Dakky ? are you guys scum mates ? It does seem strange that you jumped on the wagon rather quick. To everyone at these time I am going along with Legion until we can prove who is town ?
.

Don't worry about it mitch, you've unfortunately put yourself on the chopping block as well and with it being one of the more powerful roles it is doubly unfortunate.

Eh. I think scum would be taking a big risk by taking a shot at mitch tonight. Assuming there's anything like a town doc (and they have to assume that), they can't afford to potentially go N1 and N2 without a kill. So my guess is that mitch is safe tonight.

[Ragian]

Whatever, Captain Condescending. I think it made sense to jump onto mitch from the way he worded his initial post if you've not played with him. You, apparently, disagree. Despite saying that you're not suspicious of those who did. Do people playing senselessly doens't strike you as scummy. That's what I'm taking with me from our back and forth.

[Metsfanmax]

Whatever, Captain Condescending. I think it made sense to jump onto mitch from the way he worded his initial post if you've not played with him. You, apparently, disagree. Despite saying that you're not suspicious of those who did. Do people playing senselessly doens't strike you as scummy. That's what I'm taking with me from our back and forth.

I'm not the one who has an issue here. Anyone who says that it made sense to attack mitch as scummy is either (a) revealing their own scumminess, now that it is revealed he is likely town or (b) was apparently so bad at this game that they could not think of literally any other scenario for mitch saying what he said, including the completely obvious scenarios of him being something like a town cop or town doctor. Pick your poison.

[nagerous]

Whatever, Captain Condescending. I think it made sense to jump onto mitch from the way he worded his initial post if you've not played with him. You, apparently, disagree. Despite saying that you're not suspicious of those who did. Do people playing senselessly doens't strike you as scummy. That's what I'm taking with me from our back and forth.

I'm not the one who has an issue here. Anyone who says that it made sense to attack mitch as scummy is either (a) revealing their own scumminess, now that it is revealed he is likely town or (b) was apparently so bad at this game that they could not think of literally any other scenario for mitch saying what he said, including the completely obvious scenarios of him being something like a town cop or town doctor. Pick your poison.

There were contradictions in his first statement on day 2 which had to be addressed. Turns out it was just Mitch being Mitch.

[Metsfanmax]

Whatever, Captain Condescending. I think it made sense to jump onto mitch from the way he worded his initial post if you've not played with him. You, apparently, disagree. Despite saying that you're not suspicious of those who did. Do people playing senselessly doens't strike you as scummy. That's what I'm taking with me from our back and forth.

I'm not the one who has an issue here. Anyone who says that it made sense to attack mitch as scummy is either (a) revealing their own scumminess, now that it is revealed he is likely town or (b) was apparently so bad at this game that they could not think of literally any other scenario for mitch saying what he said, including the completely obvious scenarios of him being something like a town cop or town doctor. Pick your poison.

There were contradictions in his first statement on day 2 which had to be addressed. Turns out it was just Mitch being Mitch.

No, they didn't have to be addressed. That's exactly why I tried to brush it off as "mitch being mitch," because I was pretty confident that he was hinting at a town PR, and the absolute last thing I wanted to do was keep pushing him on it so that a town PR got revealed. But some of you did push him on it, and now our cop is revealed on D2. So yeah, I hope you're proud.

[strike wolf]

midday scene

The town rejoiced from the night. Things seemed to be going well but a man claiming to be Jack Ventura People Detective found himself in the spotlight. At first town was suspicious. Later, they started to believe him and turned instead to arguing about those talking about him. At some point one suggested that they should settle this over a pint.

Many hours of partying later, the town returned to the center to find Jack had been killed. The town searched his pockets but found no evidence of the killer.

Madmitch-Jack Ventura People Detective-Town Cop has been killed.

With 11 alive it takes 6 to Lynch.

[Metsfanmax]

Well, damn. Do mafia have a day kill? Shit.

[Djfireside]

Well I guess there is always that too...

[dakky21]

Well, damn. Do mafia have a day kill? Shit.

From the scene, "the town returned to the center to find Jack had been killed" .. so we were drinking beer (pints) and when we returned he was dead. Doesn't look like mafia kill, rather someone who has day kill ability and is a 3rd party...

I believed Mitch for his claim and I believed him from first post D2 and that's why I never voted him, so I wonder who of the voters on him did actually did the day kill?

I'll go random and

vote DDS

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